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TecAmp amplification club.....is there such a thing yet

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My smooth jazz band had a gig last night. I used my Black Jag 900 and my TecAmp M210. I can't imagine better tone coming out of any rig. The combination was just awesome. The tone was full, fat, punchy, bright, but not brittle, everything you would want from a rig. My gain was set at 11:00, the amp was set flat except I had the taste knob at 11:00. My Master volume was set at 9:00, never needed more. The M210 is a very efficient cab, a little volume goes a long way. I had the tweeter set at the third soft attack setting. I had my MTD AG 5 set almost flat with a little bass boost. That amp/cab combination is very intuitive. The slightest technique changes are heard. This is my go to rig. The amp weighs 6.2 pounds and the cab, 39 pounds. My band mates loved the rich tones I was getting from this rig. As we all know, more people would own TecAmp gear but for the cost. It's worth saving your money and buying it, it is really high quality gear.
I bought my rig from Glenn at Austin Bass Traders. What a knowledgeable guy about all things bass. He knows a few of you guys, and speak very highly of you. I highly recommend him for all of your bass needs.
 
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KJung said:
... is more like, well, a 'better Eden' to my ear... punchy, with some mid character, but more even, smaller, and 'cleaner/more accurate' without being sterile on the one hand, or overl y wooly and midrange distorted on the other hand!
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The revoicing sounds interesting. I'll no doubt get my mitts on one one day. For now I'm really enjoying the fatness of the 2hu version.

It also sounds surprisingly good with the upright plugged straight in. The input impedance is a substantial 1 Meg. That's about 8 times that of a Radial DI. The taste knob all the way down takes out the boom (Gage Realist pup). That's giggable without a pre.
 
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If have the chance to swap my s212 for the new classic line.(Ceramics)
Have you heard or tried the new cab line from tecamp?
I wandering what should be the best cab configuration
changing for another s212 ceramics or 2x112 ceramic cab?
 
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vin*tone said:
...It also sounds surprisingly good with the upright plugged straight in. The input impedance is a substantial 1 Meg. That's about 8 times that of a Radial DI. The taste knob all the way down takes out the boom (Gage Realist pup). That's giggable without a pre.
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hmm. First jam with my upright in a band situation last night - paired with a Berg HD112 to see if it could replace my First gen SWR Baby Blue.

Nope.

Great little rig for electric but found it dark and somehow lacking in detail with the doghouse. I think it's mostly the cab - the LDS loaded 2x8+5 of the BB is so ridiculously balanced and articulate it's not a fair race - and the lack of semi-parametrics means I need to carry more outboard gear with the Puma. To be clear the tone was still "very good" but it's made me appreciate the SWR BB - it's still king (for upright).

I also found an audible difference running the Ehrlund pre before the Puma. 10mg input impedance vs 1mg so you would expect this - but I did have my fingers firmly crossed that this little rig could mean one less thing to pack.

A massive YMMV on this post - Amping an upright is a dark art and what "works" is very particular to a certain bass/pickup/pre combination.
 
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vin*tone said:
hmm. First jam with my upright in a band situation last night - paired with a Berg HD112 to see if it could replace my First gen SWR Baby Blue.

Nope.

Great little rig for electric but found it dark and somehow lacking in detail with the doghouse. I think it's mostly the cab - the LDS loaded 2x8+5 of the BB is so ridiculously balanced and articulate it's not a fair race - and the lack of semi-parametrics means I need to carry more outboard gear with the Puma. To be clear the tone was still "very good" but it's made me appreciate the SWR BB - it's still king (for upright).

I also found an audible difference running the Ehrlund pre before the Puma. 10mg input impedance vs 1mg so you would expect this - but I did have my fingers firmly crossed that this little rig could mean one less thing to pack.

A massive YMMV on this post - Amping an upright is a dark art and what "works" is very particular to a certain bass/pickup/pre combination.
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The the original Puma, this does not surprise me. Super smooth mids, HUGE low end, sizzly top end... too much of a good thing with an unbuffered piezo IMO.

I never found super high input impedance to be the answer for piezo pickups. Much simpler to find a little buffer preamp prior to plugging into the amp IMO. That is kind of a separate issue though. My guess is, you would dig the tighter, brighter, but still quite clean newer Puma500. That being said, it is a rare DB player who doesn't want/need a semi-parametric mid to really dial a DB in.
 
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vin*tone said:
hmm. First jam with my upright in a band situation last night - paired with a Berg HD112 to see if it could replace my First gen SWR Baby Blue.

Nope.

Great little rig for electric but found it dark and somehow lacking in detail with the doghouse. I think it's mostly the cab - the LDS loaded 2x8+5 of the BB is so ridiculously balanced and articulate it's not a fair race - and the lack of semi-parametrics means I need to carry more outboard gear with the Puma. To be clear the tone was still "very good" but it's made me appreciate the SWR BB - it's still king (for upright).

I also found an audible difference running the Ehrlund pre before the Puma. 10mg input impedance vs 1mg so you would expect this - but I did have my fingers firmly crossed that this little rig could mean one less thing to pack.

A massive YMMV on this post - Amping an upright is a dark art and what "works" is very particular to a certain bass/pickup/pre combination.
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Interesting, amping an upright is truly a dark art! I'm guessing your experience must be related to the effect of your upright coupled with the amps and cabs. I exclusively use a Puma 1000 or Puma 900 with my upright through either a single AE112 or two AE112s for larger gigs. For smaller gigs I usually don't use a preamp (I use an MPP-1 with either Puma for louder situations). I use either a Realist or Full Circle, depending on the ensemble. With the straight amp, I roll the taste quit low to about 9 o'clock; lows and hi mids are rolled back to about 11 and 10:30, respectively. The AE cabs are pretty tight, so low end is a attenuated nicely, but mids definitely need taming. The tone isn't perfect, but I can tease some wonderful acoustic sound out of this rig along with some decent growl. Projects pretty well, also. I did try an HT112ER for this setup without luck-too boomy with saturated lows I just could not dial out. All in all, I'm pretty happy with the Puma/Berg AE combo, but who knows how the unique character of my upright is making it all come together.
 
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The HT is supposed to be similar to the HD112 so I was probably getting a similar tone as you, Ted, but with the extra low kick of the Powersoft Puma. I found the taste knob pretty effective at taming the boom (quite similar to dialling down the low EQ with my bass/Gauge Realist). I imagine I would get great results if I plugged the Puma into the BB cab and used the Empress in the effects loop.... would be handy for louder stages.
 
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I've played my upright through a BB-very nice tone. Can you plug the BB cab to the Puma?I don't remember how it's configured. I'm also thinking of adding a compressor for upright and electric-an Empress or FEA Labs would do nicely. The Puma 1000 has a decent compressor that works well with both types of basses, but I'd like a bit more control. I believe nostatic uses an FEA labs compressor. Might be an interesting addition to the "experiment."
 
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Damn it. Just plugged my Jag 900 into my Mesa Powerhouse 115 for the first time ever. Don't know why I never tried it before. The 15/6 sounds good and clear, but the PH115 is a much more "cab" sounding cab and it punches out some "rock" guts that I haven't felt from the 15/6. Now I'm tempted to try it with a Scout cab just for giggles.
 
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nostatic said:
I've got an upright showing up that I'll have a KK Bass Max on and will do the experiment. Also have a CN112 cab that will show up along with TC212 and BigE 4x6 so I'll do a cabpalooza with the Puma fairly soon.
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They make uprights with 33" scale now??
 
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ted burik said:
I've played my upright through a BB-very nice tone. Can you plug the BB cab to the Puma?I don't remember how it's configured. I'm also thinking of adding a compressor for upright and electric-an Empress or FEA Labs would do nicely. The Puma 1000 has a decent compressor that works well with both types of basses, but I'd like a bit more control. I believe nostatic uses an FEA labs compressor. Might be an interesting addition to the "experiment."
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On doubling gigs, I'll be running my URB with an EAP or FC in to a 10 mega ohm Basswitch, through an FEA DE CL, and then my Puma 900 into whatever cab I get next- probably the new Berg CN212.

Kind of what you're describing, no?
 
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nostatic said:
I've got an upright showing up that I'll have a KK Bass Max on and will do the experiment. Also have a CN112 cab that will show up along with TC212 and BigE 4x6 so I'll do a cabpalooza with the Puma fairly soon.
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Wow, man, you're taking up upright now, too? You're going to be a monster on all axes soon and have killer gear to go with it.:D

Wait till you get in pickups for URB, that will drive you really nuts. :p
 
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Hi there all tecamp clubers!!

I just order the new s212 tecamp 4 ohms ceramics yesterday!
I'll replace my neo s212 tecamp for the ceramics line ..I've that new line of tecamp cabs have more ball's, more agressive in the low end apparently..
I think its going to be awesome with my puma 900 and my Fbasses
maybe I ll save money for an CN112 for my smaller gigs
here s my rig:
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by the way that cabs is for sale.
 
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vin*tone said:
hmm. First jam with my upright in a band situation last night - paired with a Berg HD112 to see if it could replace my First gen SWR Baby Blue.

Nope.

Great little rig for electric but found it dark and somehow lacking in detail with the doghouse. I think it's mostly the cab - the LDS loaded 2x8+5 of the BB is so ridiculously balanced and articulate it's not a fair race - and the lack of semi-parametrics means I need to carry more outboard gear with the Puma. To be clear the tone was still "very good" but it's made me appreciate the SWR BB - it's still king (for upright).

I also found an audible difference running the Ehrlund pre before the Puma. 10mg input impedance vs 1mg so you would expect this - but I did have my fingers firmly crossed that this little rig could mean one less thing to pack.

A massive YMMV on this post - Amping an upright is a dark art and what "works" is very particular to a certain bass/pickup/pre combination.
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.... on second thoughts...

Had a good chance to A/B the 2 at home last night: Puma vs SWR Baby Blue. Back to back the Puma/Berg combo fared way better than I thought. Fixed my 9VAC adaptor and put an Empress parametric EQ in the effects loop - it sounded glorious and gave me even more tonal options than the sweepable EQ on the BB.

I've got an upright gig tonight. I'll probably run this Puma/Berg rig and see how it goes.
 
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Interesting, I'm glad that the upright is starting to work better for you with the puma..

I use my empress para EQ almost 100% of the time, and it lives in my pedalboard. I wonder if I'd gain anything tonally by putting in the effects loop of the puma900 instead.
 
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