Well the Para driver is only needed for the double bass. Other bass goes into the other input, then VT out to the amp.
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Tech 21 at NAMM
- Thread starter JimmyM
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Well the Para driver is only needed for the double bass. Other bass goes into the other input, then VT out to the amp.
That'd work great then.
...I want one of these so bad... They haunt my dreams. Jimmy: Maybe this has already been covered in the thread, but has there been any indication from Tech 21 on the release date of these?
...I want one of these so bad... They haunt my dreams. Jimmy: Maybe this has already been covered in the thread, but has there been any indication from Tech 21 on the release date of these?
I recall something being said like "several months".
I'm very interested what else is new at Tech21.
I'm about to buy an RBI and a British for my guitar... unless they come up with something else.
nope. but i don't recall tech 21 making people wait too awful long for stuff once they announce it.
Let's hope they don't pull a GK with their marketing/release date strategy on this thing. If they strike while the current TB-iron is hot they'll sell a ton of these.
Looks interesting, but I'd be much more interested in a VT Bass released in a Para-driver'esque format. I just don't need mutliple sounds. I currently use my SABDDI for "no amp" situations. If they release a VT bass that is more like a DI box with the phantom power capabilities and that little blend knob in there, I'll most likely buy one. They already have access to the casing so all they'd really need to do is include the phantom and get a blend knob in there. Doesn't sound like it should be all that difficult.
Although, if this thing winds up working for both slab and doublebass well, I might think about picking a programmable version up if they put a blend knob on it.
I think for me at least, no blend knob = instant disinterest.
Although, if this thing winds up working for both slab and doublebass well, I might think about picking a programmable version up if they put a blend knob on it.
I think for me at least, no blend knob = instant disinterest.
Brought my programmable BDDI to practice for the first time today. I discovered a great use for the multiple channels. As your venue changes, you'll have to make adjustments to the room/system, no problem. But, say I roll back the bass a bit. Fine, but then I switch channels, and switch back, it would revert to where it was. So, since I really only use two channels, clean and overdrive, the third will be my designated 'floater' where I can save those adjustments. Now I have my basic sound, an adjusted channel, and the od.
Fantastic! This is exactly what I've been itching for. I'll buy one the day they hit the street.
I've been thinking about getting one of these or holding off for the VT. What I would do is run it into the front of my amp (LMII) and use the amp's eq to compensate for room acoustics. That way the Sansamp shouldn't need tweaking. This also means if you can't use your amp for some reason, like using it as a DI, or in the studio, even just for home practice, you'll always have 'your' sound.
BTW, my other option I'm thinking about is the TC Nova Drive as I'm looking for a versatile OD more than amp sim.
Well, if I'm playing a show most often the DI out will be heading to the board, and the parallel to the amp. so if the FOH guy says I'm too boomy or something, changing EQ's on the amp won't do anything. Hence tweaking the pBDDI, or this new VTDI and keeping the channel free for 'adjustments'. Just throwing it out there for the 'i don't need more then one channel' folks.
Anyway, I just got my pBDDI last week. By the time theses new VT's hit the used market I might be ready to give them a try.
The more I look at this, the more I want it. With that in mind, I've thought up some issues that I would have with it:
My initial intent was to run each of my basses into their own input with their own set of presets to gain match them as they have very different output levels. Since I intend to run a tuner in-line before the VT, I would either have to run a tuner for each bass, or manually move the 1/4" from input 1 to input 2, or vice versa, when changing basses. Not a huge deal, but a hassle I wish I could avoid, especially in the event of a string break where I have to change basses mid-song.
There's no pre/post switch for the DI out that I can see. If I want to send a pre-EQ signal to the FOH I'll have to put a DI box before the VT. Again, not the end of the world, but an added expense I would have liked to avoid.
My initial intent was to run each of my basses into their own input with their own set of presets to gain match them as they have very different output levels. Since I intend to run a tuner in-line before the VT, I would either have to run a tuner for each bass, or manually move the 1/4" from input 1 to input 2, or vice versa, when changing basses. Not a huge deal, but a hassle I wish I could avoid, especially in the event of a string break where I have to change basses mid-song.
There's no pre/post switch for the DI out that I can see. If I want to send a pre-EQ signal to the FOH I'll have to put a DI box before the VT. Again, not the end of the world, but an added expense I would have liked to avoid.
Sure, but then you wouldn't get the benefit of silent tuning, which is the only method I would ever consider. I always find it incredibly unprofessional when a band is tuning and it's coming through the PA.
Step One: Step on your tuner to engage it.
Step Two: Double tap the far right button on the VT Deluxe to engage the effects loop.
Step Three: Tune without everyone hearing you.
I guess it depends on what tuner your using. Also, if the tuner was the only thing in the FX loop, couldn't you just not connect the return?
Maybe the Tech 21 loop works differently than other manufacturer's effects loops, but the mute function of a tuner would then only mute the signal going through the loop and would still allow the signal going through the preamp to hit the DI.
Please clarify how Tech 21's loop would act any differently.
Please clarify how Tech 21's loop would act any differently.
What tuner wouldn't work like that?
And I suppose if you just wanted to mute the signal and you never used the effects loop, you could easily forego the return cable.
As I understand it, the effects loop is in series, not in parallel, to the gain stage. Thus, there is no blend, and ALL of the signal goes through the loop when it is engaged.
Really? That's interesting... I'll have to try and find a block diagram for this thing's circuit to see how it's all running.
I guess I need to do some more reading, but I've never used an effects loop that was run in series. Maybe I'm missing something, but that seems like it would defeat the purpose of using a loop entirely. If all of the signal was running through the preamp, it seems like using the loop is just a clever way to make you use an extra cable... To clarify that point: I always thought the entire purpose of using an effects loop was so that you could bypass the preamp and feed the effect directly the power amp. If the effects loop has to pass back through the preamp, why not just put it in front of the preamp and save yourself a cable?
Well, in a situation like this, with the VT Deluxe, it allows you to utilize both inputs, as well as allowing you to assign the effects in the loop to specific presets.
