Still showing mid June. That's like next week. I shall continue with normal respiration, but I do hope they ship this time.
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Zoom's BDDI model isn't bad, but it struggles with 'on the edge of breakup' drive, as do many digital models. I do however applaud them for adding a mid control to their model, although I do wish they made it a paramedic mid (like a parade over), as I find the 500hz fixed mid centred a little too low for my tastes.
I have an MS-60B.
Great little everything-in-one pedal, but absolutely not a substitute for the BFR.
The MS-60B has a demanding, thought-provoking programming scheme. It takes a lot of forethought to figure out a sequence of patches in order to cycle through various sounds during a set.
The BFR would be much friendlier live, especially if you have to be able to react quickly to sudden set changes, improv sections, etc. Want a quick volume boost? Kick the button. Want more grit? Kick the button. Everything is just a click away.
One other thing: the MS-60B is good for the price point. But it doesn't sound as good as my real gear, whether we're talking amps, compressors, etc.
During my recent experiments with the guitar Fly Rig, it impressed me with being a sonic step up from my current setup. If the BFR is equally good, then there will be no comparison to the little red Zoom.
Great little everything-in-one pedal, but absolutely not a substitute for the BFR.
The MS-60B has a demanding, thought-provoking programming scheme. It takes a lot of forethought to figure out a sequence of patches in order to cycle through various sounds during a set.
The BFR would be much friendlier live, especially if you have to be able to react quickly to sudden set changes, improv sections, etc. Want a quick volume boost? Kick the button. Want more grit? Kick the button. Everything is just a click away.
One other thing: the MS-60B is good for the price point. But it doesn't sound as good as my real gear, whether we're talking amps, compressors, etc.
During my recent experiments with the guitar Fly Rig, it impressed me with being a sonic step up from my current setup. If the BFR is equally good, then there will be no comparison to the little red Zoom.
I wasn't saying the Zoom is better, just that I can actually go and buy it right now if I want. The delay in the Bass Fly rig getting released is annoying.
Wouldn't the BFR be redundant if you already own a VTDI? You could bypass the sansamp in the BFR but how would you patch the VTDI? Before or after the BFR? Confusing.
The chorus and filter sounds cool. Don't Tech21 sell those as separate boxes?
The chorus and filter sounds cool. Don't Tech21 sell those as separate boxes?
Yes the simplicity of stomping on a foot switch in the middle of a set definitely beats fiddling with patches and presets, does the B3 resolve this issue though? Curious because I'm considering buying it and unsure of it's real world application.
Yes the B3 somewhat resolves this issue but there are only 3 pedals you can use at once. Another up side is that the vaste number of effects to choose from are all good and have a lot of parameters. But the distortions and drives to my ear are very weak (same as any digital multieffect). In my opinion, unless you need to use all the effects of the B3 that the BFR wont have, which keep in mind is 3 at a time, you are better off spend the little extra on the BFR. Or at least thats what I'm doing.
Hmm, interesting. The distortion patches does seem to be the Achilles' heel of the B3 as observed by many users. If I do go with the B3 it'll be mainly for the filter and modulation effects and parameters since I already own and am very happy with a VT Bass DI pedal. The B3's effects quality coupled with its footswitchability (if there's such a word) are the factors that draw me to it - not to mention the price point.
Tech21 does sell the Bass Boost Chorus as a separate pedal. It has much more control available than the one knob for chorus on the BFR. As of right now, the octafilter is only on the BFR. Andrew did say they were thinking about making a pedal version of that, and with summer NAMM right around the corner....
Just for the heck of it, try using a bass Amp Model in place of a drive stomp and set it for use as distortion or overdrive. You might be surprised to find that this may be preferable to the stock distortion stomp emulations in the B3. YMMV, of course. Though I've gotten respectable drives to sound good in the B3, I won't argue with the sentiment that it is quite fussy to get set just right, and a bit moreso than other multi-fx devices that I've used.
I had to cancel my pre-order as I got chicken feet when this is so delayed -- manufacturing issues, not enough spare parts, parts not handling well? Maybe I will look at the unit six months from now.
The worst that could happen if you didn't pull your order would be you get a product that stops working quickly. Then, you just use your warranty to get a new, probably more improved version.
The older version didn't get as in depth with the unit. Not as much about the octafilter section, zero mention of the bite switch, no sample settings.
Must have updated it a few weeks ago because I already saw all that stuff.
I don't understand all this fuss over shipping delays. I noticed the same thing with the G-K Plex preamp.
There's a reason that people refer to NAMM as Not Available yet, Maybe May.
I don't consider June-July of the same year as excessive. The G-K MBF800 took years to go from NAMM show prototype to actual release.
There's a reason that people refer to NAMM as Not Available yet, Maybe May.
I don't consider June-July of the same year as excessive. The G-K MBF800 took years to go from NAMM show prototype to actual release.
