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The Acoustic Club

#1,481
xdefineperfectx said:
So my b200h head does not feel like 200 watts, im going against a fender 100h guitar head and that on 3 drowns me out with my dials maxed out. It says 200w at 4 ohms but i bought the b115 8 ohm cab, is it gonna be louder if i hook up another cab?
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I added a B115 to my B450 combo and with the 15, I get a lot more of what I call "a chocolate sound" or smoothness, but not a whole lot of extra volume.

Sometimes I add the piezzo horn, other times not but the 15 is really to fill in the bottom.

What I also know is that my B450 combo is 450 Watts by itself, and add the B115 takes me to about 525 Watts and when I add the B410 I go to the full 600 Watts. THAT then is a butt-kicker powerhouse.

Actually with everything lit up I end up with about 2.67 Ohms, which is right close enough to the 2 Ohm bottom 600 Watt limit for the B450 combo.

Maybe - just MAYBE the B200 is also consecutively rated, and also possibly it needs the extra load to really make it kick. What I also know is that looking inside the cooling grills on my B450, I can see that there's a B600 amp in there.
 
#1,482
xdefineperfectx said:
So my b200h head does not feel like 200 watts, im going against a fender 100h guitar head and that on 3 drowns me out with my dials maxed out. It says 200w at 4 ohms but i bought the b115 8 ohm cab, is it gonna be louder if i hook up another cab?
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right now at 8 ohms, you're getting somewhere around 140W I believe. Guitar frequencies require less power, which is why your guitarist's amp is so much louder than yours.
 
#1,484
i have a quick question... its probably mentioned in here already but I didn't feel like reading the whole thing... i'm looking to get an acoustic amp but i can't decide if i should go with the b450 combo or get the B200H with the 410 package.... i'm leading towards the combo but feel like i might be limited by it but like that it is only 50 bucks more for double the wattage... thoughts?
 
#1,486
clutebass said:
i have a quick question... its probably mentioned in here already but I didn't feel like reading the whole thing... i'm looking to get an acoustic amp but i can't decide if i should go with the b450 combo or get the B200H with the 410 package.... i'm leading towards the combo but feel like i might be limited by it but like that it is only 50 bucks more for double the wattage... thoughts?
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I bought the B-450, a B-115 & a B-410.

The B-450 by itself is pretty awesome. Punchy, drives really good and it can hit trebs and highs with ease especially if you turn on the piezzo horn. It has a powerful low-richness, but when I add the B115 - it really growls.

All alone the B-450 is 450 Watts (hence the name)
Add the B-115 and you go to about 525 Watts
Then adding the B-410 WITH the B-115 you are at almost 600 Watts​

If I add the B-410, I get much more volume (because there's more Watts with the lower Ohms) and the sonic pressure is fantastic.

Remember that all the B-cabs I mentioned have a switchable piezzo horn too!

If all my three cabs are on line, then I command the stage even at moderate settings - even though one of our guitars is running a Crate Blue Voodoo (Hagar-type)
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..........and twin Crate full-stacks. That's FOUR Crate speaker cabs with Crate Vintage 4-12s!

The Blue Voodoo is nothing to be sneezed at, and it has terrific power and punch and yet I can still be well heard ....

.....even with our keyboard on a 300 Watt per channel PA ....

.....and another rhythm guitar on a Fender Dual Reverb.

Sometimes I loan my Crate GFX1200H with my short Crate 4-12 stack to the rhythm guitarist.

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Just a guess here, but we are prolly running over 1800-2000 Watts for the whole platform.

Yet the bass is killing the crowd.

So - is that what you want or need?

Get the B-450, and make sure the speaker connections are OK (that appears to be a big problem with them, but a caveman can fix it w/out going through the factory like I did)........

.........and add the B-115 for some bottom and you should be able to smoke everyone.Right now GC sells the B-115 for under $200.00.

Funny thing though that the B-410 isn't affected by bad speaker connections even though it's the same 10-inchers as the B-450, nor is the B-115 affected with it's 15-incher. .
 
#1,487
B-100 - B-200 whatever..........................

I got the B-450 and the advertisement from the factory itself says that BOTH the Notch and the Standby are foot switchable.

GC just says that the Standby is so switchable.

I've tried every combo of 1x and 2x foot switches, stereo v mono cables and all I can get is the Standby to switch.

Any input from others would be interesting.
 
#1,489
SurferJoe46 said:
B-100 - B-200 whatever..........................

I got the B-450 and the advertisement from the factory itself says that BOTH the Notch and the Standby are foot switchable.

GC just says that the Standby is so switchable.

I've tried every combo of 1x and 2x foot switches, stereo v mono cables and all I can get is the Standby to switch.

Any input from others would be interesting.
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Have you tried a two button switch with the notch button on the front panel in different positions? On some amps with both footswitching and panel switching, the panel switch has to be in a proper position in order for the footswitch to work.
 
#1,491
Hello all...
Long time player...started out with a Hagstrom 3/4 scale and a Fender Solid State Bassman..(what a stinker that was)..moved up to a late 60's Fender Jazz and a Kustom 200 with 2 2/15 cabs....thought I was in bass player heaven...till I heard a dude playing through an Acoustic 360...dumped the Kustom and bought a 360....that was a longggggggggggg time ago...at least 3 marriages lol....these days I've got a Peavey Dyna Bass..and a Kustom 200 head (old habits die hard)..with a unknown origin 2x10 1x18 cab....but now that I have laid eyes on the new acoustic 600...I gotta have one....and might as well mortgage the farm and get another Jazz.... so can I join the club?
 
#1,494
Kinda late, but here it goes:

1981 Acoustic Model 126
1968 Gibson EB-2
2005 (?) Epiphone Thunderbird

Got my eye on an Acoustic 270 head. Yeah, it's technically a guitar amp, but it has plenty of power and I can play either bass or guitar through it with headroom to spare. Finding a cabinet to do it justice might be an issue, but all good things take time.
 
#1,495
FOOTSWITCH PROBLEM SOLVED
no thanks to Acoustic, though!​

My son in Montana bought a B-450 and a B-410 sidecab for himself and decided that he was going to solve the footswitch problem.

Since the ads on several sites said that both the Notch and the Standby ARE switchable, he tried every combo switch in the store and finally found one that actually makes everything work correctly.

He got a stereo balanced line and a dual latching foot switch. That did it.

There are reasons why the switches I tried didn't work.

I tried everything I had, could borrow or order online from GC - nope! Nothing worked.

The switch that was closest to actually working but I didn't know it - was a Crate dual switch and stereo balanced cable - but the switch had small LEDs in it to indicate what switch was latched.

Those LEDs were enough to upset the circuit in the amp and it just kept it from working.

What's really a cheap shot is that you have to actually read the circuit analysis/flow chart in the owner's manual to see the tiny drawing stereo connex and from there actually follow the little lines and see what the footswitch IN jack receptacle wiring is all about.

It would be NICER for Acoustic to note what kind of switch actually works - either that or produce or rebadge one from another manufacturer as their own and at least make it available at the GC stores or on their website.

Acoustic doesn't even offer any information on the correct footswitch to buy for their units. That problem with the LEDs upsetting the logic circuit would have been nice to know too.
 
#1,500
SurferJoe46 said:
It was a tough fight - but I prevailed.

But who'd of ever thought that a couple of LEDs would mess it all up?

And - what's the diff between a 'balanced' and 'unbalanced' cable?
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I'm not sure about the answer to your latter question, but from what I've seen, footswitches with LEDs will only work on amps designed to handle LEDs. I've always had trouble using LED switches on amps that were expecting non-LED switches. Maybe it's just been bad luck on my part.
 

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