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The Acoustic Club

#1,445
I just got my b20 last night... my first real amp and i love it ...

wife doesn't appreciate more than 9 o'clock in the apt though ... i could definitely see doing a small gig with it ...

there's a one on craigs list in dallas texas selling a b200 for 200bucks ... cosmetically damaged black stuff but still a heck of a deal

kenstee said:
Hey, been pulling together a list of EQ settings of B20 users. What settings are you using?
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funny you should ask cause i set them myself and then upon reading the manual i realized that it was inline with the traditional bass settings in the manual

ima run and take a pic real quick and edit this post :D

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can i has a number? ..
 
#1,451
ZiggyDude said:
Greetings fellow Acoustic heads!

I did another one of my infamous reviews. This was on the new neo 210 cab. I have not found much chatter about it here.

I also need to add to the “Acoustic Mini vs. Ampeg Mini” review. I am like on my third one now and it should have had to be my fourth but I did repairs at home on my own…

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=634049
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Is it just the neo part that makes it so low on your rating system?
 
#1,452
I don't know if anybody saw it yet, but I had a run in with my B450. There is still a flaming on-going tirade from a guy who thinks Acoustics are fecal matter from my single experience.

Too bad that he doesn't see it my way and figure that the new factory is entitled to a little fudge-zone and gets an OOPS for what happened.

Anyway - I THOUGHT I had fixed the crackle and break-up when I found the top 10" speaker screws were not driven home. I tightened them and though all was well.

It wasn't.

I just moved the noise to a new spot higher up on the fretboard and it was more horrible.

So I pulled the top 10" and saw that the spade connex were dancing around, loose on the speaker lugs.

I fired off an e-mail to the same factory guy who told me that I had a great cab and what accessories would fit and were designed for the combo.

I asked him if the factory had any ideas as to what to do for the loose lugs/spades. I never got an answer. He should have at least said he'd get back to me with a certifiable answer.

Silence.

Then I took it upon myself to solder short pigtails to the speaker lugs and from there use automotive-quality connections everywhere else.

The problem's solved now - no thanks to the quiet- and absent- Acoustic factory rep.

The grills - and I bet the whole modern line of combos and cabs are the same - are held in place with Velcro strips at all the corners and in between them too.

They can just be pried off for access to the front of the cab. That's the only way to get in as the whole back is sealed with the exception of the ports.

BTW::: The white trim comes out with the grill - so don't try it any other way.

The rear ports are not big enough to get inside very far and no way can you make any repairs through them.
 
#1,454
SurferJoe46

Just curious -why not just take the thing back with the three year warranttee? Though I must say I was also guilty of fixing an Acoustic mini recently rather than take it back. So, I should really be on my 4th now and not the 3rd. Though mine did not take as much work.

How did you get the grill off?
 
#1,455
SurferJoe46 said:
Is it just the neo part that makes it so low on your rating system?
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That is a good question.

I really don't care about the weight. I was dissapointed with the sound regardless of the speaker type. So, making it a neo made the cab more money. That pushed it into a price point that has other brands that it can not compete with.

If the cab was $199 regardless of the speaker type, it would have been more of a temptation. I am not really sure if I would have got it though.

But then - I waited for a GC sale and bought that Ampeg SVT210 HE. (Not the mini, the discontinued Classic series that I tested the 210neo against.)

I think that I was more dissapointed with the enclosure. Something that was larger and tuned better would have done a better job at making the sale. After all - they can give the mini a nice tone with a single standard 10. So, regardless of the speaker the enclosure was the real culprit.
 
#1,456
ZiggyDude said:
How did you get the grill off?
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The grills on most all Acoustic cabs are just velcro'd on...I've pulled the grill off of my B20 by simple sticking a butter knife gently into the gap around the grill itself and levering it up.

My 2 pennies' worth on the Neo 210 cab is basically that you pay around $100 more for a lesser cab, when compared w/the plain ol' 410 cab...FWIW...
 
#1,457
ZiggyDude said:
SurferJoe46

Just curious -why not just take the thing back with the three year warranttee? Though I must say I was also guilty of fixing an Acoustic mini recently rather than take it back. So, I should really be on my 4th now and not the 3rd. Though mine did not take as much work.

How did you get the grill off?
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I just got back from GC Murrietta, CA., and I told the bass tec there about the problem. He said I should file a claim with Acoustic and see what they do through the warranty department.

GC is also a little upset about Acoustic ignoring me and it would be sent up the GC command line and to corporate for examination.

GC said they'd handle it if I wanted, but it's already fixed and that's enough of that for me at the mo.

What with shipping to Acoustic, their repairing and re-boxing and reshipping it back to me - it would cost a lot more than for them to fire me a check for my troubles.

I got a really sweet deal and a sweet amp and a pair of side cabs now and I'm happy - but I just don't like being ignored like the crazy aunt you keep in the attic when company comes.

Like I said in the post about taking the 10" out, there is Velcro and the whole grill comes out including the white piping with it!
 
#1,458
I know that there's not a lot of love for GC shown around here, but I've had really good luck with the stores I've dealt with in this area and I'm glad to hear that your GC people were willing to step up on this issue, tho I do think that GC should have offered to swap yours out for one off of the floor at the time - the store should be able to do a warranty charge-back to Acoustic a lot easier than you, the end-user, would be able to navigate the warranty dept.
 
#1,459
I've met some good and some mediocre GC "talent", but the ones in Murrietta are pretty good in my estimation. I cannot speak for anyone working in the percussion department, since those kinds of people are strange and my momma always told me to stay away from drummers.

I've been treated very well, fairly and frankly, with a lot of respect. I believe it is all a matter of good upper management. They recognize me, call me by my first name and generally I feel like a long-lost relative from the white sheep side of the family every time I go into that store.

At this point I feel better with the repair technique that I used - rather than having some Acoustic factory tech try to make what is within the official Acoustic factory approved protocol and from the same defective Acoustic parts bin on a shelf in an Acoustic warehouse - to work again when it didn't in the first place.

I don't know what latitude the Acoustic warranty department would allow the factory repair guys - if they could color outside the lines and defy original design parameters or not - but I know the repair will not fail now the same way it did at first.

Soldered joints and pigtails are much better at road- and playing- shock, and I feel confident with what I did and that it far exceeds what the OE design was.

I don't really care about the $$, although a small stipend would be good for my troubleshooting and fixing their shortcoming by myself. That said now, I just don't like being ignored. :rollno:
 
#1,460
I just fired off a poison-pen e-mail to Acoustic Info Desk:

This is the second e-mail about the troubles with my NEW B-450. I also called and got put on eternal hold.

It developed a death rattle - I saw the screws that were on the top speaker were not even tight by using a flashlight and looking through the cloth grill.

I removed the grill (Surprise!! It's held in with Velcro!! Nice touch!!) --- and I tightened the screws but the problem came back next gig and I took the top 10" speaker out and found the (female) spade connex were loose and falling off the speaker (male) spade connex.

I called - I e-mailed and generally could get no response from anyone at this same e-mail address, so with being ignored by you, I went ahead and soldered pigtails on the spades of both speakers, added automotive shielded spades and connectors on the rest of the wires, making sure that the wire gauge was exactly the same as OE and put it all back together.

Surely my repair this way also help to keep the amp from going open-ended and frying it's brains out - THAT WOULD MAKE A MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE WARRANTY CLAIM --- NO?

It is now cured.

I had just also bought a B410 cabinet and just today I went and bought a B115 cabinet to round out my needs.

I've spent a lot of money with your people and I do not like being ignored and treated like the crazy aunt you put in the attic when company arrives. It's not nice and I wonder what your service after sales credo really is.

Do you treat everybody with problems the same way or are you picking on just me?

I spent valuable time diagnosing, repairing and generally doing right what you should have covered for me with what cannot be more that 30-days after purchase. I have also minimized any claims for a blown amp - consider that!

Now - I like both speaker cabs and combo unit - it's sweet and mellow and can really suck the air outta your lungs and sterilize farm animals at 1/2 mile away (I live in the rurals so I know! and I am not complaining about effective instrumentation and great sounds. You've got that all very well covered.

I am complaining about being ignored.

That's not nice and sure makes it hard to recommend your equipment to anyone else.

How do you feel this can be rectified and you come back into my graces again?

I realize that I may not need to buy much or any more of your speaker cabs or combos, since I have pretty much what I want and need right now so I don't represent a threat - at least not monetarily to you any more - but this is surely some bad karma by you guys. I really am quite upset and question your ethics.

How about a free 2-way pedal for my B-450? I'd be happy that way.
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Let's see what happens. :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
 

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