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The Combo Club

YES! The people who do a lotta the demos don't seem to understand that I'm(we're)auditioning the gear, not the player. Play the same riff with different settings-and basses?-so I can hear the gear, not the player.[end rant]
That's why this is one of my favorite demos. Same track, played through each amp. Totally consistent.

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Good evening, Doc! I was thinking about you this afternoon as I recorded a song with the Hofner for the very first time. Sounded pretty good in its raw state, and I plan on making it even better sounding tomorrow. Love the neck to bits and the overall tone is deep; seemingly deeper than the Rogue by comparison. Still getting a feel for it, but between that one and the other Beatle bass, my Precision is collecting dust on a wall. Now my curiosity about how a 500/1 plays is on my brain, but I have no intentions just right now. Still, I'd like to sit down with one (and with a brat 'n beer) and do some playing.
My 500/1 is the best investment I've ever made.
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That's why this is one of my favorite demos. Same track, played through each amp. Totally consistent.

:thumbsup:

After hearing this very enjoyable comparison I wasn't much impressed with the PJB. And I thought the Markbass sounded the best of any of 'em. -Would've loved to have heard an Orange Crush 25w 1x8 stuck in among the middle of these tho... :smug:
 
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After hearing this very enjoyable comparison I wasn't much impressed with the PJB. And I thought the Markbass sounded the best of any of 'em. -Would've loved to have heard an Orange Crush 25w 1x8 stuck in among the middle of these tho... :smug:

G'woulf, I'd try really hard to audion the Orange before you slap the money on the counter, or at least use the online seller's generous return policy if needed. Not that you can't get a solid bass tone with an Orange, they are known to be a punk rocker's dream amp because of their dirty tone. I don't happen to use mine that way, but I easily could. With an 8" speaker, you're gonna want to lay on the volume a bit to her yourself and that's where things may get kinda grindy. Now if you're into that, enjoy, but if you crave an old-school clean tone, the Crush series may not work for ya.

Since this is a club and you're here for ideas, I'll give you a couple. Fender's Rumble line has been a bass player's dream combo for a while now, and the 40-watt combo might be perfect for ya unless their particular tone isn't you. An alternative would be the jam with my peanut butter sammich, Ampeg. You could try out their Rocket Bass 110 and snare double the Orange's power, plus a ten-inch speaker in a lightweight package, 22.5 lbs to be exact. It'll give you the grit if you want it, but more importantly, it'll give you a luscious bass tone with clear and open mids. Like a Jersey Mike's sub, once you try one you'll never go back to Subway!

It's just a couple of ideas for you to kick around. If you're set on the Crush, go for it, but my combo senses (and they're reliable, trust me) are telling me to tell you to keep moving. I see the Crush-25 is $219 at Sweetwater, so if the price is an influence (and when is it not?), go used and save a bundle. You can find a bass combo amp in your range and expectations as easily as finding a T-bird bass at GP's house.

Good hunting, and if you buy the Orange and love it, I'll be sure to admit I was wrong on these here pages.
 
G'woulf, I'd try really hard to audion the Orange before you slap the money on the counter, or at least use the online seller's generous return policy if needed. Not that you can't get a solid bass tone with an Orange, they are known to be a punk rocker's dream amp because of their dirty tone. I don't happen to use mine that way, but I easily could. With an 8" speaker, you're gonna want to lay on the volume a bit to her yourself and that's where things may get kinda grindy. Now if you're into that, enjoy, but if you crave an old-school clean tone, the Crush series may not work for ya.

Since this is a club and you're here for ideas, I'll give you a couple. Fender's Rumble line has been a bass player's dream combo for a while now, and the 40-watt combo might be perfect for ya unless their particular tone isn't you. An alternative would be the jam with my peanut butter sammich, Ampeg. You could try out their Rocket Bass 110 and snare double the Orange's power, plus a ten-inch speaker in a lightweight package, 22.5 lbs to be exact. It'll give you the grit if you want it, but more importantly, it'll give you a luscious bass tone with clear and open mids. Like a Jersey Mike's sub, once you try one you'll never go back to Subway!

It's just a couple of ideas for you to kick around. If you're set on the Crush, go for it, but my combo senses (and they're reliable, trust me) are telling me to tell you to keep moving. I see the Crush-25 is $219 at Sweetwater, so if the price is an influence (and when is it not?), go used and save a bundle. You can find a bass combo amp in your range and expectations as easily as finding a T-bird bass at GP's house.

Good hunting, and if you buy the Orange and love it, I'll be sure to admit I was wrong on these here pages.
Umm, that would be the TBird bass.:thumbsup::)
I listened to some demo's of Oranges and since I prefer a classic, Motown/Jamerson-ish tone, it didn't fit my 'needs'.
 
Had one(b4 my first real bass). Played a Hofner-once. Not my thing.

GP, it's a real bass, believe me. That one guy, the mop-top from Liverpool, made quite a nice living off of it and still does to this day. The irony is that the violin bass has gotten the reputation of being a one-trick pony, but with a lotta love and experimentation (plus a 30 mph wind), I can coax all kinds of sounds out of it, even a P-bass. I know, you don't care about that one either, but it also has had a history of being pretty popular.

To each his or her own...
 
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Mine was a Filipino copy made outta(I think)balsa. It was like it wasn't there. But, it was cheap. And I sold it for more than I paid for it, so...

Okay, now that we know more about the backstory. It'd be like me talking you into the v3 Rumbles sounding exactly the same as the v1 Rumbles...not a chance. Ask Miles for some club money (he knows where it's at), fly to Germany, head to Hagenau, Bavaria (grab some pastries while you're there), and ask the factory to allow you to sample their wares. You may think then it's not quite your Filipino balsawood bass.

And tell him to book ya first class! :thumbsup:
 
GP, it's a real bass, believe me. That one guy, the mop-top from Liverpool, made quite a nice living off of it and still does to this day. The irony is that the violin bass has gotten the reputation of being a one-trick pony, but with a lotta love and experimentation (plus a 30 mph wind), I can coax all kinds of sounds out of it, even a P-bass. I know, you don't care about that one either, but it also has had a history of being pretty popular.

To each his or her own...
As has the TBird(the 'one trick, etc.' thing). I didn't hate the Hofner(model unknown, but a 60s vintage-I think)sound or feel wise, but ya gots to remember, my TBird has been my "ichi-ban" since 1973. Almost anything else just 'ain't right'.

BTW, I got the Filipino copy for $50 in 67 with a hard shell case. it was a decent 'starter' bass. IIRC, I sold it for $100.
 
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Okay, now that we know more about the backstory. It'd be like me talking you into the v3 Rumbles sounding exactly the same as the v1 Rumbles...not a chance. Ask Miles for some club money (he knows where it's at), fly to Germany, head to Hagenau, Bavaria (grab some pastries while you're there), and ask the factory to allow you to sample their wares. You may think then it's not quite your Filipino balsawood bass.

And tell him to book ya first class! :thumbsup:

Knew you'd appreciate that, Doc. BTW, music is coming your way. :hyper:
 
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My square root of -1 cents @Greywoulf and the little Orange.

The Orange is going to sound like an Orange. If you really like that, good. Because that's all you'll ever get out of it.

A Rumble Studio 40 will sound pretty much like anything you want including an Orange, and rings in at 19 pounds. There's no Speaker Out, but there are two XLR outs.
 
Umm, that would be the TBird bass.:thumbsup::)
I listened to some demo's of Oranges and since I prefer a classic, Motown/Jamerson-ish tone, it didn't fit my 'needs'.

Reading a James Jameson transcription right now over a cappuccino.

The British Invasion vibe I aim for is that Chas Chandler Epiphone Rivoli thing. I can get pretty close...