I had the same experience with my Peavey Combo 300, just too hard to find decent tone, and was too heavy, so down the road it went : )
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The Combo Club
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I had the same experience with my Peavey Combo 300, just too hard to find decent tone, and was too heavy, so down the road it went : )
If it were an ancient silversides Peavey, it would stiil work faultlessly.(you just don't want to move it)
My Heritage VTX guitar amp had some good sounds, and was nice and loud. Unfortunately when I loaned it to someone, they stored it in a fairly open out-building rather than just saying they were done with it and giving it back, and now all the pots are insanely scratchy. It weighs close to 100 pounds.
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While my Phil Jones BG-400 combo tips the scales at 40lbs / 18Kg, it's still way easier to load in/out than anything I ever owned before. And sounds way better than anything I ever owned before.
The BG400 weight is "right there" for my stage of life at age 60, great specs!
Likewise piecing together rig in approximately forty pound increments to hopefully take care of playing bass for the next ten years or so, God willing : )
I had read a post recently that asked something close to: What good does it do to have a seven pound amp if you still have a 80 pound cab to lug around?
Took it to heart, and cancelled a Mesa TT800, ordered a second Subway115, and robbed/borrowed the amp/preamp from my pa, thank goodness for TalkBass!
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I, for one, am very much in favor of sending the PA, if I'm in it at all, my post-EQ "DI" signal. I craft my tones just like the guitarists do, and nobody asks them for a pre-EQ signal! So, don't ask me, either. And, if the PA tech screws up my signal I cut him off and up my stage volume to compensate (subtly if I can pull it off, but it's happening if needed).
And both my Rumble combos have very competent XLR Outs. In fact I prefer the multiple extremely variable tones (which can change song-to-song and within some songs) of my modeling Rumble Studio 40 with its built-in extensive pedalboard and amp & cab sims! And, if that's not enough stage volume, my Rumble 500 combo, at 350 watts alone or 500w with my Bassman 115 cab, can get my Studio sounds to the needed stage volume.
Backline provided? I might try it in a casual jam-like, open mic type situation. But, if it's a "real" gig that my band's rehearsed for then, no, thanks anyway! I'm using my rig to get my tones, at whatever 40, 390 or 540 watts level necessary. Combos all the way!
What's the Club motto here ... ... ...
How can you say NO to Combos?
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I never DI out a raw signal. They get my EQed tone and they add volume and place in the mix. Otherwise we have a chat.
I don't play out but I have invested a lot in my sound. Accordingly, no one is going to change that without some discussion.
I had a question using about using a pre amp pedal. I use a GK plex and connect the DI directly to my mixer when I run sound. I just picked up a peavey max 208 to use as a backline monitor when we play larger stages with sound support. The GK Plex is hooked into the input of the Peavey and it sounds great with the Peavey EQ set flat. I do have the Peavey Gain set to 6. The Peavey DI is pre EQ. My question is should I use the DI on the Plex or the Peavey for my upcoming show where we have sound support? If I had a post EQ DI on the Peavey I would definately use it. I'm not sure what the benefit using the GK Plex pre pedal and the pre amp on the Peavey would bring to the sound since it's pre EQ.
If you're typically happy with the sound of the pedal into the mixer, I'd stick with that. One less variable to have to suss out, and no extra noise from the additional stages of the Peavey. Gain stage noise adds up.
If the sound through the Peavey is much better and you have the time to play around, try going out of the Peavey. You can always drop back to the pedal DI.
If the sound through the Peavey is much better and you have the time to play around, try going out of the Peavey. You can always drop back to the pedal DI.
Thanks Miles,
The GK Plex pre amp has the overdrive circuit, compression and GK amp voicing. However, it does sound really good out of the amp. Usually I just run a 1/4 inch out to the amp and use the DI of the GK. The Peavey reviews are really talking up the DI as being extremely quite. I have not recorded with it yet.
Hi. I am not a member of this club, but I do have an Orange Crush Bass 50 combo amp, and I have been thinking about buying another in order to double up on the wattage and cone area.
My thinking is that one 50 watt amp may not be enough for gigs of reasonable volume (Jazz, Blues-rock), but 2 will (100 x 2-12).
I have a 200 watt Hartke amp that I can buy cabs for. But I am tired of it's overly clean and sterile sound.
I like the sound of my Orange, and don't want to invest a lot of money into something I may of may not need some day. What do you think?
My thinking is that one 50 watt amp may not be enough for gigs of reasonable volume (Jazz, Blues-rock), but 2 will (100 x 2-12).
I have a 200 watt Hartke amp that I can buy cabs for. But I am tired of it's overly clean and sterile sound.
I like the sound of my Orange, and don't want to invest a lot of money into something I may of may not need some day. What do you think?
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Maybe with an Orange Bass Butler, you could bi-amp to both the Orange and the Hartke? Let the big Hartke handle the lows and let the Orange handle the highs. And the Hartke will sound like an Orange.
Yes, and when we add another cab to make this possible, and are talking well over twice as much as a second Bass 50.
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Many pros here can state exactly how many SPLs are gained with a second, matching combo. The change is due to speaker area. 50 additional watts will not significantly boost output.
On the economy end of character pedals is the Joyo Orange Juice. Run it through the effects loop of the Hartke for a reasonably correct Orange tone.
On the economy end of character pedals is the Joyo Orange Juice. Run it through the effects loop of the Hartke for a reasonably correct Orange tone.
That sounds like a fun setup to play around with. But now I'm daydreaming about getting a second combo, and sending one the distorted sound, and clean to the other. I wonder what two baby Oranges would sound like?
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Ooh, knowledge straight from the horse's mouth. Nice.
Now I actually want to do it! Doubt I ever will, sadly. Unless I can convince the church to upgrade from the Line 6 we use now, it's going to be either my baby Orange, or the Line 6 for the next long while. Since I DI into the desk, I just need to compete with whatever's in folds, which the Orange can usually do. It's only 25W into an 8" speaker, but it competes pretty well against the 75W 10" Line 6. Certainly has a better tone!
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If you DI to the desk, can you raise and tilt your Orange to act as a personal monitor? If not mistaken, your feet are not too good at hearing a 25 watt amp.
Yeah, we've gone through a few different options, and currently we sit it on the raised brick wall of the baptismal font behind me, angled a bit off centre to the room. Also, I don't stand right next to it. It does its job admirably. I've even been asked to turn it down once!!!
Using the Line 6 is a compromise I have to pay if I choose to ride my motorbike to church instead of driving in with all my own gear. Now that I have my own 5er, I can practice at home and use my friend's lovely RBX that lives at church. Through the Line 6.
Mostly I just want to play with fun toys, and I love the idea of using two small combos off my Darkglass, because it offers a parallel output in addition to the distorted output and XLR. I can't help it. I'm a nerd. It's just too fun!
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