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#22,781
Brief update on the R100s... I only carried one to play on Sunday; it was all I needed and I was feeling blah so didn't want to carry extra stuff. And it did great. BUT ... playing them both sounds so good at home that I really need to try them both live in a mix. So next time I'll kick myself in the butt and Just Do It! 2xR100 stacked definitely sounds fuller than 1xR00. A bit smoother *and* a bit punchier with my CP (Thunderbird Classic Pro), and more in your face with the Greco Thunderbird or the VP (Thunderbird Vintage Pro).
 
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Miles_ONeal said:
Brief update on the R100s... I only carried one to play on Sunday; it was all I needed and I was feeling blah so didn't want to carry extra stuff. And it did great. BUT ... playing them both sounds so good at home that I really need to try them both live in a mix. So next time I'll kick myself in the butt and Just Do It! 2xR100 stacked definitely sounds fuller than 1xR00. A bit smoother *and* a bit punchier with my CP (Thunderbird Classic Pro), and more in your face with the Greco Thunderbird or the VP (Thunderbird Vintage Pro).
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Probably sound great with a Fender P as well :).
 
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Miles_ONeal said:
Brief update on the R100s... I only carried one to play on Sunday; it was all I needed and I was feeling blah so didn't want to carry extra stuff. And it did great. BUT ... playing them both sounds so good at home that I really need to try them both live in a mix. So next time I'll kick myself in the butt and Just Do It! 2xR100 stacked definitely sounds fuller than 1xR00. A bit smoother *and* a bit punchier with my CP (Thunderbird Classic Pro), and more in your face with the Greco Thunderbird or the VP (Thunderbird Vintage Pro).
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As previously mentioned, I got to play through someone else's 2xR100 on a gig. Wunnerful.
 
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SoulReflection said:
So, Mike, or anyone else, how would you rate two R100s compared to an R200 combo on it's own or with another cab for the whole 200 watts?
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My first Rumble was the 200c. I didn't know the daisy chain trick at the time. If I had, I woulda gotten a 100, gotten some more $ together and gotten a second, either to run together for the(potential)200W, or as a backup. Take both to the gig; use however many needed. One reason I went for the 200c was its ability to power a second cab. The internal 140W has never not been enuff. I did run R100>R200c at a gig once, but only to see how it sounded in that room. Too much. Helluva sound, but overkill. The 2xR100s with the coupled 2x12s pumping out the sound-even at lower levels-is, to my ears, perfection.
In that same venue, I once ran the R200c>R112 cab*. Great sound, but again, overkill.
(At the house)
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*since sold
 
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SoulReflection said:
So, Mike, or anyone else, how would you rate two R100s compared to an R200 combo on it's own or with another cab for the whole 200 watts?
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Soul man, of course two chained R100s is more powerful and disperses bass better than a R200c on its own. But, I'll go even further and say the two R100s is the more perfect 200 watt stack. The R200c with a R115 cab is very close but, IMO, just slightly less perfect. Yes, both have identical matching speakers for that awesome coupling effect, but they don't both have identical cabinets! Only the two R100s have that. The R115 cab is bigger than the R200c. It's a small difference, perhaps, but it's there.

Some will say that the larger 15" cone size overrides that difference and easily overwhelms the 12" stack. Well, ... actually, tonewise, that may possibly be. It is still quite subjective, after all. But, there is not as much inherent difference between speaker sizes these days as there used to be! And that's true, especially, in the Rumble line of combos and cabs where they have all been designed and tuned to work well together.

Then, too, the two R100s provide a backup amp in emergencies that the R200c & R115 cab don't. And the two R100s weigh very nearly 30 lb.s less than the R200c & R115 stack! (I know which ones I'd rather load in and out.) Not to mention the lower cost of the R100s.

Just some food for thought. Hope it helps.
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G-Dog said:
Soul man, of course two chained R100s is more powerful and disperses bass better than a R200c on its own. But, I'll go even further and say the two R100s is the more perfect 200 watt stack. The R200c with a R115 cab is very close but, IMO, just slightly less perfect. Yes, both have identical matching speakers for that awesome coupling effect, but they don't both have identical cabinets! Only the two R100s have that. The R115 cab is bigger than the R200c. It's a small difference, perhaps, but it's there.

Some will say that the larger 15" cone size overrides that difference and easily overwhelms the 12" stack. Well, ... actually, tonewise, that may possibly be. It is still quite subjective, after all. But, there is not as much inherent difference between speaker sizes these days as there used to be! And that's true, especially, in the Rumble line of combos and cabs where they have all been designed and tuned to work well together.

Then, too, the two R100s provide a backup amp in emergencies that the R200c & R115 cab don't. And the two R100s weigh very nearly 30 lb.s less than the R200c & R115 stack! (I know which ones I'd rather load in and out.) Not to mention the lower cost of the R100s.

Just some food for thought. Hope it helps.
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It does and is all very interesting. Thanks for the response...Jim
 
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SoulReflection said:
Where ya been, @RodRy?
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Oh, around and about. Had some computer issues recently that took me offline for a couple weeks, been working on things around the house (some prep for the big winter storm), and a few shop projects. For 3 months I was taking a night class.

Bass-wise, I'm still just jamming with my trusty PJB Double Four, so no combo news to report.

Oop! Time for dinner!
Merry Christmas for those who celebrate it, and happy holidays for all!
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