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The direction music is headed?

#241
Greyfin10 said:
We can focus on the crap, or we can focus on the gold. I promise you it's more rewarding to fill your life with good music than to wallow in snide superiority.
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The problem is, IMHO, sub-par artistic work ("the crap," as you put it) has become so pervasive that the general public has gradually become more and more accepting of it. Indeed I wonder sometimes if a large section of the populace has the vocabulary/tools/understanding to even make reasonable value judgements about what's "good art" or not.

My wife teaches elementary music at a small private school here. The music program was only resurrected a few years ago, and she sees day-to-day how these kids haven't had the opportunity to learn enough to be able to critically know what's good or not, or even be able to explain why they like a particular song (never mind the genre/style) or not. Sad thing is many of the parents never had that opportunity, either.

We're not wallowing in "Snide superiority," ourselves...in spite of the difficulties, my wife (in whom I'm intensely proud) is in there "in the trenches" trying to instill the love and understanding of music in these kids. I serve on the Arts Commission in our city and our work continues to come back to the importance of advocating educational opportunities for kids and adults alike.

You're right--there is still good work out there. I just think it's somewhat a fight on the part of the artistic and educational community to enable people to even understand and cherish *why* it's good work. If they don't know what it is, they'll never find it...

</arts-in-education-rant> ;)
 
#242
I WANT THOSE 2 MINUTES OF MY LIFE BACK!!!!!!!! worst song ever. her parents must have never told her to shut up before. this is what happens when we cut funding of school music and arts programs. I think the birth of rap can be traced back to budget cuts in the NYC school system music dept. in the mid 70's.
 
#245
zaubertuba said:
The problem is, IMHO, sub-par artistic work ("the crap," as you put it) has become so pervasive that the general public has gradually become more and more accepting of it. ...
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This is nothing new. Do you watch broadcast TV - ANY broadcast TV? Then you are BOMBARDED with mediocre crap. Why should music be any different? Why should ANYTHING? Car, beer, food - the stuff that sells is the least offensive - McDs, Bud, 3 1/2 men - - all mediocre dreck, all making tons of money.

It is up to the individual to find things of value. It is up to the individual parent to teach their children taste and discretion by setting an example. This oft-repeated notion that "Things are worse today than ever before" is utter BS - at least as far as music goes. You want it to change? Patronize quality music and PAY FOR IT. That's what I gladly do.
 
#246
BigOldHarry said:
This is nothing new. Do you watch broadcast TV - ANY broadcast TV? Then you are BOMBARDED with mediocre crap. Why should music be any different? Why should ANYTHING? Car, beer, food - the stuff that sells is the least offensive - McDs, Bud, 3 1/2 men - - all mediocre dreck, all making tons of money.
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That being said, all that mediocre crap you just listed out proves his point. America has become a cultural dump.
 
#247
Oh well. I've settled in late in life here enough to not worry too much about it. It doesn't matter if I don't like new music. I'm still enjoying listening to and playing what I DO like, most of which happens to be VERY old. But, so what? I'm 61 with a limited amount of future, so I'm doing what I want. I've got gigs, too. Digging the groove in what I KNOW to be good music. Heh, for ME anyway. What else matters?
 
#249
zaubertuba said:
The problem is, IMHO, sub-par artistic work ("the crap," as you put it) has become so pervasive that the general public has gradually become more and more accepting of it. Indeed I wonder sometimes if a large section of the populace has the vocabulary/tools/understanding to even make reasonable value judgements about what's "good art" or not.
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This is actually a concern of mine and something I've thought about without actually articulating it in this thread. Maybe it's unwarranted, as a few have suggested that it's no different then any other time, but it still is a bit of concern...
 
#252
BigOldHarry said:
This is nothing new. Do you watch broadcast TV - ANY broadcast TV? Then you are BOMBARDED with mediocre crap. Why should music be any different? Why should ANYTHING? Car, beer, food - the stuff that sells is the least offensive - McDs, Bud, 3 1/2 men - - all mediocre dreck, all making tons of money.

It is up to the individual to find things of value. It is up to the individual parent to teach their children taste and discretion by setting an example. This oft-repeated notion that "Things are worse today than ever before" is utter BS - at least as far as music goes. You want it to change? Patronize quality music and PAY FOR IT. That's what I gladly do.
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Hey man, back in nor-cal the bud was definitely miles above mediocre! ;)
 
#253
Haha. What anguish, what complaining in this thread.

I'm so glad I've got nothing against playing music normal people like. Mainstream music will always be superior to artistic music - artistically, morally and philosophically.
 
#255
Don't need to. I'll just quote myself from an older thread:
I think the average musician has far more atrocious taste than the average 10-year-old. Kids that age aren't jaded yet, aren't trying to convince themselves that they're better than those "sellout" successful musicians, and aren't out to prove that they're smarter and more cultured than other kids who like other music. They still mostly want music to sound good and have lyrics about stuff that's interesting to them. Musicians, on the other hand...
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#256
Ubersheist said:
What's sad is this one video that this guy has up has 4 times the views of all of me and my band's total views...:rollno:
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To be fair, I imagine most of the thousands of views that's had are from people emailing it to their friends, saying "Oh, you'll love this," as a joke.

Why not post us a link to one or two of your own vids and we'll try and boost your numbers?
 
#257
Why do singers think they have to scream??? I like some of the new stuff.

Hinder sounds like they missed their mark by 20 years. They would have been a great 1980's hair band.

The Black Keys sound rejects from the 70's.

I agree with the guy that wants to raise money to get Greenday to break up. (Older stuf not bad, newer stuff sucks)

Five Finger Death Punch, I like their version of Bad Company, however I can't stand it when bands try to make it recording covers. ie: Joan Jet and Van Halen. I like their music but don't have the same respect as bands that write their own

Daco Jones refer to first comment. If he doesn't screan he sounds winey or attempts to sound tough hehehe

I don't think there is a single band that cn hold a finger to the old greats like The Who, Led Zepplin, The Beatles, Rolling Stons, Aerosmith, AC\DC etc...
 
#260
AuntieBeeb said:
To be fair, I imagine most of the thousands of views that's had are from people emailing it to their friends, saying "Oh, you'll love this," as a joke.

Why not post us a link to one or two of your own vids and we'll try and boost your numbers?
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I've posted a few of them around on talkbass, and they can be found through the links below. They just don't get the numbers like that girl, though...

I think what I need is a 'leaked' sex tape. How YOU doin', Auntie?

(I just creeped myself out... I'm actually living at my aunt's house right now, and just had BAD thoughts run through my head.... I think I'll take a shower now...)
 

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