that looks to have a tone of features in a pedal sized preamp. Any idea what those will be priced?
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The Great Bass Preamp/DI Comparison
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that looks to have a tone of features in a pedal sized preamp. Any idea what those will be priced?
I'm new to this thread, but already will probably be picking up an RNDI soon, and wish I could find a P-15.
curious, how would a LBA 2020 react to pickups like Nordstrand Big Blades?
curious, how would a LBA 2020 react to pickups like Nordstrand Big Blades?
Ugh... I just had to update my G.A.S. list. Again. Thanks to this thread.
LOLAnother thought related to gear making a difference:
I fully agree that general public won't be able to tell the difference, and sound engineers (in general) just slap a comp on the bass channel and forget about it. But! These small subtle differences in gear... the minutiae... make a difference to ME (us). If I'm working with a piece of gear that I'm not really vibing with, I'm distracted and not playing my best. If I'm working with gear that is doing what I want and I think really sounds stellar (i.e. I don't feel like it's fighting me), I find myself more into the music and really enjoying it, and often times playing better. The subtle differences in [Gear A] to [Gear B] may be enough to make all the difference!
That's actually why I jumped into this thread. "Chasing tone" may not be anything that matters to anyone but me, but it's totally worth it.
Sorry... that got a bit wordy.
5sg.
Yep, a similar analogy. The crowd will not know the difference essentially between a stock MIM Fender P-Bass and a stock USA Fender P-Bass. But the player will feel (and hear) the difference.
Ugh... I just had to update my G.A.S. list. Again. Thanks to this thread.
Another thought related to gear making a difference:
I fully agree that general public won't be able to tell the difference, and sound engineers (in general) just slap a comp on the bass channel and forget about it. But! These small subtle differences in gear... the minutiae... make a difference to ME (us). If I'm working with a piece of gear that I'm not really vibing with, I'm distracted and not playing my best. If I'm working with gear that is doing what I want and I think really sounds stellar (i.e. I don't feel like it's fighting me), I find myself more into the music and really enjoying it, and often times playing better. The subtle differences in [Gear A] to [Gear B] may be enough to make all the difference!
That's actually why I jumped into this thread. "Chasing tone" may not be anything that matters to anyone but me, but it's totally worth it.
Sorry... that got a bit wordy.
5sg.
For sure. Much of what we do is for us and that's totally ok.
"Chasing tone" may not be anything that matters to anyone but me, but it's totally worth it.
100% If you're stoked out on your rig and feel dialed in it's much easier to just enjoy and get lost in the performance. I also think it comes through in the way of rehearsals and writing/arranging sessions. When you're tone is cooking the inspiration and creativity can shine. The best piece of gear for me that I learned early on to reign in sound techs and at least have a little say in it was an HPF/LPF. Had a couple gigs back to back that were opposite ends of the spectrum. One guy had the sound ice picked so bad that all I could here was clank and string noise and the next gig was consumed by low end and sub bass. Within the range of the HPF/LPF I can't always control but I at least control where those frequencies start and stop. It's nice these days that we are starting to see those features more and more as standard on a lot of preamps and amps.
How bad is this? I actually have one of those IQ DI that I've forgotten about...
I got one in a trade or for a very good price when I bought a Basswitch Spark and Dual Band Compressor. I just tried it and then moved on, thinking I could sell it since I didn't need it.
Might be time to pick it up and see what it sounds like, again. From my memory it was very clean and with a great EQ.
What about a Bergantino Forté HP For a "DI" and my rig? It has everything. Preamp, HPF, LPF, compressor, a couple drives, etc.
I got on the waitlist a couple weeks ago but didn't see any info about dates. Do yoo (or anyone else) know rough wait times for these?
if your going to use a amp head why. It use the Genzler you already own. It has a stellar DI.
True. But the Berg has lots of things that are talked about here, like HPF, LPF, etc. I went Genzler over Bergantino because of previous experience and the cost factor.
Although, using my current board as I was thinking, and adding a REDDI or something not board friendly to it, would still work with the MG350 head, and I could go post to get a preamp as well. Not a Tube DI, but I have tubes in the LA-1A I suppose.
True but that defeats the purpose of ampless gigs you've been talking about and and the one with HPF and LPF with compressor is way over $1199 plus.
Imo you cant really do better (if you're fine with the size). That's my main amp and what I DI through to record. It's got everything like you mentioned, is super high quality and with the new "fat tube" drive update that came out last week it has completely cooled off my want for a Jule Monique or Oracle. It's got tons of power if you need but can play at home great, has a quick punchy response and just enough tonal options without getting complicated. It can get tight, bright and clanky similar to a GK with one drive, clear and clean like a Markbass, or syrupy with the fat tube setting. I have way too many guitars, basses, and amps for both and it is without a doubt one of the best pieces of gear I've bought.
Anyway - if you haven't checked out the Berg thread lots if info there and Jim and Lee are also very helpful if you have questions.
The Forte HP is a great head and feature rich. I tested it when it first came out and it was more HiFi sounding than what I wanted and the original drive they had programmed was super brittle and harsh so I went a different direction. They have since added a bunch of different presets/sims that you can upload and from what I read on the Berg forum are pretty great. Very versatile amp and people love the DI. I would assume the onboard HPF/LPF work really well as Jim puts a lot of time and research into anything he does as well as continues to refine which is the benefit of an amp like the Forte HP or the B|AMP. Not to mention the power for days on tap with the Forte HP. Love my Berg cabs and their amps are great too but Aguilar suited my goals better. Plus I already have an HPF/LPF pedal as well as my drive/fuzz chain locked in so didn't need those features.
HA! I was gonna @ you because I was pretty sure you had this amp and could speak directly to the updates and you're post came in while I was typing!
I have a friend who has one as well...and he has an HG410 for sale. Just not sure I can/want to spend $2K on a new rig that is way overkill for me. I'm sure once I get playing again, or recording more, the GAS will subside.HA! I was gonna @ you because I was pretty sure you had this amp and could speak directly to the updates and you're post came in while I was typing!
I've heard Jim Bergantino is coming out with a Preamp-DI pedal very soon. That would definitely be something I would be interested in.
