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The Great Bass Preamp/DI Comparison

Is anybody still using the GK Plex?

Riis
I'm still using one. I have a collection of preamps but I love the GK tone. It works great with other pedals and blended with other preamps but also is great alone. The amp sims and frequency shifts for the lows through the highs are very useful too. I wish they would make a v2 of this with more good stuff and an independent volume control for the aux input. The master controls both main input and the aux.
 
I'm still using one. I have a collection of preamps but I love the GK tone. It works great with other pedals and blended with other preamps but also is great alone. The amp sims and frequency shifts for the lows through the highs are very useful too. I wish they would make a v2 of this with more good stuff and an independent volume control for the aux input. The master controls both main input and the aux.

I got talked out of one years back in favor of the Tech 21 BFR. I just don't see much "press" on them but they do pop-up on Reverb and such.

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I got talked out of one years back in favor of the Tech 21 BFR. I just don't see much "press" on them but they do pop-up on Reverb and such.

Riis
I think the production has stopped on them and I haven't heard anything about a new pedal. I know they are an amp company but that is a great pedal. If you can find one for a decent price it's worth it. I know they come up for around 300-400$ but if you can afford it it's a good investment. I got very lucky and bought mine for 200$ years ago. The compressor settings work well and it's got a tuner that works. The overdrive settings are nice and useable for getting some grit in your tone. I really like the way this pedal sounds so detailed compared to some others. Everything flat or even EQ bypassed it's got a very great sound and when you go from bypassed to the EQ on you'll hear just a slight coloration to the tone which I think is the GK magic tone people rave about. It's not like ampeg or a sansamp type saturation but very subtle and I find it's very good for blending with those other tones and let's say you have an old 2 band sansamp driver without the mids you can use the GK to bring back frequency you lose and it just makes everything more versatile.
 
My preamp/DI list so far:

Kept:

Noble - Best direct clean tone I’ve ever had. Not much to add.

Neptunium - 90%+ of the noble tone but adds a 3d effect I can’t figure out but like it.

Neve RNDI - Makes everything sound a little clearer. Slight compression.

Aguilar Tone Hammer - My favorite amp in a box for worship/rock. Lots of compression.

Origin Bassrig 64 - actually prefer it over the Fifteen. Vintage tone without the low end cut the fifteen.

Origin Bassrig Fifteen - B15 in a box. Bummed that I can’t get the cab sim into the Noble without going through a re-amp box.

Let go:

Capo - just a little too much coloring happening for me and a high frequency thing happening with the gain that drove me crazy.

Sushi Finally V1 - Also a little too much coloring happening. Wanted to like it so much.

Bass Simplifier V1 - HX stomp level routing options in analog format. Found the preamp overdrive to be unnatural sounding.

Still want to try:

JHS pulp n peel. Potentially the best one and done compact pedal for bass.
 
My preamp/DI list so far:

Kept:

Noble - Best direct clean tone I’ve ever had. Not much to add.

Neptunium - 90%+ of the noble tone but adds a 3d effect I can’t figure out but like it.

Neve RNDI - Makes everything sound a little clearer. Slight compression.

Aguilar Tone Hammer - My favorite amp in a box for worship/rock. Lots of compression.

Origin Bassrig 64 - actually prefer it over the Fifteen. Vintage tone without the low end cut the fifteen.

Origin Bassrig Fifteen - B15 in a box. Bummed that I can’t get the cab sim into the Noble without going through a re-amp box.

Let go:

Capo - just a little too much coloring happening for me and a high frequency thing happening with the gain that drove me crazy.

Sushi Finally V1 - Also a little too much coloring happening. Wanted to like it so much.

Bass Simplifier V1 - HX stomp level routing options in analog format. Found the preamp overdrive to be unnatural sounding.

Still want to try:

JHS pulp n peel. Potentially the best one and done compact pedal for bass.
I can't say enough good things about the tone hammer as well. It just sounds great on its own. If you want a great punchy tone it's perfect for that. I got the impression that it adds an inherent tightness to the tone as well. Similar to the ebs Microbass 2 I'd say. Similar but different. It's actually another really nice pedal. I have both.
 
My preamp/DI list so far:

Kept:

Aguilar Tone Hammer - My favorite amp in a box for worship/rock. Lots of compression.

Let go:

Capo - just a little too much coloring happening for me and a high frequency thing happening with the gain that drove me crazy.
FWIW, I Send my Capo into the TH and then return it back to the Capo. TH is always on (gain is fairly low). Gain on the Capo is completely off. In a sense, I'm boosting what the TH is doing. Side A on the Capo is usually on and I can dial in a little bit more boost/dirt with Side B. Probably overkill but I like it.
 
Origin Bassrig 64 - actually prefer it over the Fifteen. Vintage tone without the low end cut the fifteen.
Origin Bassrig Fifteen - B15 in a box. Bummed that I can’t get the cab sim into the Noble without going through a re-amp box.
Are you using the cab sims when you use the BassRigs? Are you saying the 64 cab sim has less low end roll off than the Fifteen cab sim?
 
Are you using the cab sims when you use the BassRigs? Are you saying the 64 cab sim has less low end roll off than the Fifteen cab sim?
Yes, if not for the cab sim I wouldn’t even own them. The fifteen has a very hard roll off at 80-100hz just like the vintage ampeg 15” cab.

The 64’s cab sim has very little low end cut comparatively. A more gentle roll off at 50-60hz which is the sweet spot imo.

So with the 64 I can still use octave effects or play a 5 string (if I had one) and get a nice low sound.
 
I gave the Broughton P15 its second live use at church this morning with my P bass. I was very pleased with the IEM tone and FOH was pleased. XLR output level was sufficient and quiet.
 

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I've spent some time properly trying to use and understand the software for the Tonex One I purchased mid last year. I had some captures on there but I wasn't completely happy. I'm please to report that it really is worth spending time working with it. I have a really nice free capture as my clean sound, but I also purchased the bass collection while on sale and it has a variety of great tones on it.

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Happy New Year everyone!

NAMM is in full effect and I see that Neural has release the Quad Cortex Mini. Very interesting for those who want a smaller footprint than the already pretty compact Quad Cortex.

I'm still rocking my QC and it continues to impress. I've been through a lot of preamps since starting this thread, but the QC is the real deal. The Neural Capture technology has gotten even better and there are some pedals I'd like to capture.
 
@projectapollo Thanks! I have the Tone Hammer which I also use a lot for silent practice, both with the AGS on and off depending on what I’m doing. I’ve been gassing for an Oracle or Noble, probably from reading threads like this, but the TH / Caveman combo is an intriguing option.

Have you done any comparisons between the Caveman, Oracle, or P15 and the TH with the AGS off?
Yes I did include the Tone Hammer DI in my trials with the AGS off. It's a pretty darn good clean EQ/DI if you use modest amounts of EQ gain. Dialing up the bass and mids gain pretty high and things get boomy or sterile. Even more so on the Studio One. The Trickfish Minnow EQ is tuned better and more useable across the range of the controls. But for mild EQ adjustments, the THDI is an excellent choice. It will still be my gig bag back-up since it's phantom powered and ready to go and gets the job done, AGS on or off.

So, I moved the Caveman along, mostly because of the size and need to pair an EQ device with it and limited board space. If I'm going to do the Janek thing and set the Caveman adjacent to the board on the floor, I would prefer the P15 in that tag-along free-roaming role. I did like the inherent tone of the Caveman and hope we see reports that the Mantle gets that vibe. The Mantle is attractive in features/components, unattractive in footprint and price. Eager to hear more analysis.

I have the Broughton P15 listed for sale, but don't want it to sell. Every time I come back to it, it makes me smile. I am content with it, but keep thinking it's a bit of a pain to set-up at 6am call time on Sunday mornings in a 1200 person worship center with FOH and Monitor Engineers running the show and wanting to keep my signal chain as simple and issue free as possible. I'm getting more comfortable with that idea, however. I can definitely see some chill weeks where my P bass with flats or my Serek short scale plugged direct into the P15 and to FOH will be ideal and simple. The last time I showed up with new "experimental" gear, the monitor engineer was gracious and took a few minutes to A/B things and provide his recommendation. He quickly chose the DCX Bass over the Origin Bassrig Fifteen, to my surprise. We tried cab sim on and off. DCX got the call.

So, my current postulated board line up features the DCX Bass first in the chain for touch sensitive lovely saturation with the compact board plugged into P15 as the pre/DI for final polishing EQ and tube (warmth, harmonics, shine, punch, whatever it is doing it sounds good). If I don't use the P15 on a given week, I will go with a Radial passive JDI or active RNDI - and use more generous EQ from the DCX.
 
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I gave the Broughton P15 its second live use at church this morning with my P bass. I was very pleased with the IEM tone and FOH was pleased. XLR output level was sufficient and quiet.
Josh got these things SO right it's insane. The P-15 really is a special piece of gear. I've never gotten more compliments on my tone than when I was using one regularly.
 
Josh got these things SO right it's insane. The P-15 really is a special piece of gear. I've never gotten more compliments on my tone than when I was using one regularly.
+1. It’s an excellent balance of lean/fat, gritty/clear, simple/versatile. I’ve had one since the second run of them and won’t get rid of it. Despite having used many others, and not taking it out to gigs. I’ve settled on the Khan mounted under my board for gigging duties.
 
So I’m listening to Raye and her bass player Liv Thompson sounds amazing. I look her up and P bass, FBass 5 and a board with a Stomp and Noble. Every time I look up good bass sound it’s a Noble. Her. Sean Hurley. Many others.

Do I have to get a Noble to get a sound I like? I had a REDDI that I loved as well. Noble is just more board friendly and the XLR and 1/4” are affected, not just the XLR like the REDDI.

I don’t want to spend $2K but I want to sound like those players. I know it takes more than gear but I have great basses and Stomp.