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The Mike Lull Club

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I know the best thing to do before I ask is to go back through this whole thread - but honestly, I am lazy. :hmm:

Does anyone have a fretless Lull? M5V specifically, but any model will work too... Or does anyone have pics they're keeping around?

My GAS list changes almost daily but a fretless has been a mainstay and I was thinking how great it would be to have another Lull... I missed out on the PJ5 on eBay recently. :crying:

A fretless Lull would be pretty darn amazing, but I'm so in love with Vic's(now sold) Zon fretless that that would be the only way I go.

However, man I bet his sound good too!
 
I know the best thing to do before I ask is to go back through this whole thread - but honestly, I am lazy. :hmm:

Does anyone have a fretless Lull? M5V specifically, but any model will work too... Or does anyone have pics they're keeping around?

My GAS list changes almost daily but a fretless has been a mainstay and I was thinking how great it would be to have another Lull... I missed out on the PJ5 on eBay recently. :crying:

Bryan Beller has one. He talks about it on his gear page at:

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or the direct link:

http://www.bryanbeller.com/music/instrumentsandstrings.html#mikelullcustom

His fretless is just breathtaking, and he is a great player.
 
Question for you Mike Lull owners:

Darn near every lull I've seen is lovely - but the few I've played seemed exactly like a fender to me. I guess what I was hoping for was that whole "Sadowsky Feel"... Am I missing something here?
 
Question for you Mike Lull owners:

Darn near every lull I've seen is lovely - but the few I've played seemed exactly like a fender to me. I guess what I was hoping for was that whole "Sadowsky Feel"... Am I missing something here?

Well, as far as I can tell that is Mike's goal - to make his basses feel like vintage Fenders but with modern appointments like preamps, 5-strings, etc. My M5V feels more like a vintage Fender than my previous Fender CS. And it sounds like J, even with the Bart preamp it still sounds like a J - not the J on steroids that people normally describe Sadowsky's as.

What do you mean by "Sadowsky Feel"??? The logical solution is to get a Sadowsky if that's what you're after (right?)... As much as they are both J (or P) style instruments they are very different from each other.
 
Well, as far as I can tell that is Mike's goal - to make his basses feel like vintage Fenders but with modern appointments like preamps, 5-strings, etc. My M5V feels more like a vintage Fender than my previous Fender CS. And it sounds like J, even with the Bart preamp it still sounds like a J - not the J on steroids that people normally describe Sadowsky's as.

What do you mean by "Sadowsky Feel"??? The logical solution is to get a Sadowsky if that's what you're after (right?)... As much as they are both J (or P) style instruments they are very different from each other.

Well, if I had tons of disposable income, I'd gladly get a Sadowsky... BUT I DON'T. Hence my interest in a Mike Lull.

Given that Lull's seem to be made to pretty high standards, use nice parts, are often just gorgeous, I keep thinking they should just have *that feel*. Perhaps I've just not found the right one, I dunno. Can some one tell me if they use the smaller body's ala Sadowsky, or are they the stock Fenders size?
 
Well, if I had tons of disposable income, I'd gladly get a Sadowsky... BUT I DON'T. Hence my interest in a Mike Lull.

Given that Lull's seem to be made to pretty high standards, use nice parts, are often just gorgeous, I keep thinking they should just have *that feel*. Perhaps I've just not found the right one, I dunno. Can some one tell me if they use the smaller body's ala Sadowsky, or are they the stock Fenders size?

Well, IMHO having played both, the Sadowsky is a real different animal. What YCBass said is correct, his view is a vintage jazz bass with modern features. With the Sadowsky's, it may look like a jazz bass but it won't be an exact copy of a vintage Fender. IMHO and IME the only way to get the Sadowsky tone is to have a Sadowsky.
 
Well, IMHO having played both, the Sadowsky is a real different animal. What YCBass said is correct, his view is a vintage jazz bass with modern features. With the Sadowsky's, it may look like a jazz bass but it won't be an exact copy of a vintage Fender. IMHO and IME the only way to get the Sadowsky tone is to have a Sadowsky.

What if you want a Lull to sound like a Hondo? :D
 
Well, IMHO having played both, the Sadowsky is a real different animal. What YCBass said is correct, his view is a vintage jazz bass with modern features. With the Sadowsky's, it may look like a jazz bass but it won't be an exact copy of a vintage Fender. IMHO and IME the only way to get the Sadowsky tone is to have a Sadowsky.
IMHO, BOTH the Lull and Sadowsky basses are modern takes on the J. There's no such thing as a Fender J with a 35" scale, and that really does change the tone. Not in the same way as the Sadowsky preamp, but enough to where I don't think either instrument, as great as they each are, could ever be called truly faithful to a genuine Fender J sound. Just depends on what kind of twist on the J you want most. :)
 
Well, if I had tons of disposable income, I'd gladly get a Sadowsky... BUT I DON'T. Hence my interest in a Mike Lull.

Given that Lull's seem to be made to pretty high standards, use nice parts, are often just gorgeous, I keep thinking they should just have *that feel*. Perhaps I've just not found the right one, I dunno. Can some one tell me if they use the smaller body's ala Sadowsky, or are they the stock Fenders size?

The M5V is a full size J body, the edges are a little more square than Fender, the Modern (M5 or M4) is the downsized body. I've also seen M4V's with a smaller body - care to fill in CaptainWally???

The one Sadowsky I played was an NYC 24-fret 5, the neck was thicker than my Lull - I really love the neck on mine.

Build quality is excellent just like Sadowsky's...

For me one of the biggest selling points for Lulls is the price - for the same $2800 that you'd spend on a Sadowsky Metro UV70-5 you can get a custom US made Lull with your choice of electronics, woods, finish, etc.

All this, IMHO.
 
The M5V is a full size J body, the edges are a little more square than Fender, the Modern (M5 or M4) is the downsized body. I've also seen M4V's with a smaller body - care to fill in CaptainWally???

The one Sadowsky I played was an NYC 24-fret 5, the neck was thicker than my Lull - I really love the neck on mine.

Build quality is excellent just like Sadowsky's...

For me one of the biggest selling points for Lulls is the price - for the same $2800 that you'd spend on a Sadowsky Metro UV70-5 you can get a custom US made Lull with your choice of electronics, woods, finish, etc.


What he said, plus the neck is extremely comfortable. It's a slightly flattened C profile if I'm not mistaken. Anyway, it is effortless to play.
 
The M5V is a full size J body, the edges are a little more square than Fender, the Modern (M5 or M4) is the downsized body. I've also seen M4V's with a smaller body - care to fill in CaptainWally???

The one Sadowsky I played was an NYC 24-fret 5, the neck was thicker than my Lull - I really love the neck on mine.

Build quality is excellent just like Sadowsky's...

For me one of the biggest selling points for Lulls is the price - for the same $2800 that you'd spend on a Sadowsky Metro UV70-5 you can get a custom US made Lull with your choice of electronics, woods, finish, etc.

All this, IMHO.

Big +1!
 
IMHO, BOTH the Lull and Sadowsky basses are modern takes on the J. There's no such thing as a Fender J with a 35" scale, and that really does change the tone. Not in the same way as the Sadowsky preamp, but enough to where I don't think either instrument, as great as they each are, could ever be called truly faithful to a genuine Fender J sound. Just depends on what kind of twist on the J you want most. :)

True. Given the two though, I would call the Lull a much more "classical" take on the jazz bass.
 
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