The NEW acoustic 360/361....

[Sliderbass]

That does make sense now.
I see some other amps that really are out there that seem to be around for the same reason.

Are you suppose to get one before or after the Harley?

Wait a minute... I got my Harley in '99...

 

[Sliderbass]

I guess I should step back here.
I think it is a good guess that $5000 is the MSRP, but it will probably be about 30%-50% less.
This is a legendary amp, I would like to have one, but the actual in-store price has yet to be seen.
If it is $5000 in the store then I would have to be crazy to buy one. And I think it isn't too much of a stretch to assume that this is way beyond the budget of most bassists, gigging or not.
But good luck with it, maybe it will catch on and everybody will sell their high-end rigs and buy one.

When I talked to George last year, he indicated that there was a little bit of room in the 5k price, but nowhere near the 30-50% number.

I'm interested to see where the Flea thing goes. Maybe this time next year those of us that didn't get one will be kicking ourselves. Time will tell.

 

[dannster]

Thank You! If you have to ask...

"Working musicians" are not his target customers.
Baby-boomer, semi-retired, doctor/lawyer types, with plenty of disposable income, wanting to relive their teen years are his target customers.
Told me so himself.

 

[seanm]

I don't know how many people have seen. but Acoustic now has both their American and Canadian sites up, and are bringing back three other cabs and a power amp. And Flea just bought 12 of these 360/361 for their pending world tour. He must have heard something from them...

They are way out of my weight range

But I can see why Flea might want them. A wall of these behind you on stage would look very very cool. And I bet Flea has a roadie or two to move the cabs

 

[60bass]

I'm glad that the 360 is again in production and especially here in the USA albeit at a price point that puts it out of reach of all but the richest players or PRO's.

I've owned a 370 with two 301's and played through many folded designs over the years. SUNN RH series, Peavey FH1's, Carvin 18' W boxes. BTW I gigged in all sizes of venues with folded horn cabs and can tell you without hesitation that they ARE useable for just about any sized gig. Loved every one of them but glad I don't have to move them around anymore.

I just can't see where there's going to be a wide spread demand for these at any price point considering the power of modern PA's nowadays combined with lightweight bass rigs. If I was going to start lugging one of those 360/301 cabs around again, I might as well look around for some JBL 4520's, 4530's, and 4560's to use along with it. Might as well grab some big long throw JBL HF lenses too while I'm at it. I'll pack em in the 5 ton box truck along with the B3 and 4 Leslie 147's our KB player used way back when.

The original 360/301 was the best there was in it's day, but do we really want to time travel backwards?

Keep Low

 

[JimmyM]

I'm glad that the 360 is again in production and especially here in the USA albeit at a price point that puts it out of reach of all but the richest players or PRO's.

I've owned a 370 with two 301's and played through many folded designs over the years. SUNN RH series, Peavey FH1's, Carvin 18' W boxes. BTW I gigged in all sizes of venues with folded horn cabs and can tell you without hesitation that they ARE useable for just about any sized gig. Loved every one of them but glad I don't have to move them around anymore.

I just can't see where there's going to be a wide spread demand for these at any price point considering the power of modern PA's nowadays combined with lightweight bass rigs. If I was going to start lugging one of those 360/301 cabs around again, I might as well look around for some JBL 4520's, 4530's, and 4560's to use along with it. Might as well grab some big long throw JBL HF lenses too while I'm at it. I'll pack em in the 5 ton box truck along with the B3 and 4 Leslie 147's our KB player used way back when.

The original 360/301 was the best there was in it's day, but do we really want to time travel backwards?

We're not really comparing big switchboard computers from the 40's to iPads here. An amp that was good in the 60's and 70's is still good today, and some people will absolutely consider the extra weight worth the high prices. I see no shortage of SVT/810's, for example. And the Heritage B-15, a $4000 30w tube amp, sold out the entire run of 50 within a couple months. And I know of one guy who actually bought the new 360/301. So demand is out there...there are a lot of rich 50 year olds who love to rock star it up on the weekends with the best gear money can buy, as well as a pool of rock stars and studio cats who love gear and don't mind buying it, even if they rarely use it. And they don't care so much about what it weighs...they just hire a crew if they're rock stars, or pay their kids $20 to help them move it if they're not

 

[jetofuj]

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[bmc]

I used a 301 bottom with a Sunn Model T head for a good while. What a combination!!!

Today, I have no interest in moving anything bigger than a 1-15 cab. I can get a great sound with smaller, less expensive gear. And I am one of those 50+ guys who can afford toys.

I look at at old style gear for what it was. The technology has moved on so far and for the benefit of bass players.

 

[wcriley]

We're not really comparing big switchboard computers from the 40's to iPads here. An amp that was good in the 60's and 70's is still good today, and some people will absolutely consider the extra weight worth the high prices. I see no shortage of SVT/810's, for example. And the Heritage B-15, a $4000 30w tube amp, sold out the entire run of 50 within a couple months. And I know of one guy who actually bought the new 360/301. So demand is out there...there are a lot of rich 50 year olds who love to rock star it up on the weekends with the best gear money can buy, as well as a pool of rock stars and studio cats who love gear and don't mind buying it, even if they rarely use it. And they don't care so much about what it weighs...they just hire a crew if they're rock stars, or pay their kids $20 to help them move it if they're not

Very true, Jimmy.
A few years ago I almost bought an old Fender Cerwin-Vega loaded W-bin just because I thought it would be cool to own...even if I never used it for anything other than "show". (Of course, it wasn't priced in the kilo-dollar range.)

I think the proof that George/Vetchking isn't targeting the average weekend warrior is the big honkin' bolts sticking out of the sides of the cabs. Those would destroy the interior of my car.

 

[Nick901]

Very true, Jimmy.
A few years ago I almost bought an old Fender Cerwin-Vega loaded W-bin just because I thought it would be cool to own...even if I never used it for anything other than "show". (Of course, it wasn't priced in the kilo-dollar range.)

I think the proof that George/Vetchking isn't targeting the average weekend warrior is the big honkin' bolts sticking out of the sides of the cabs. Those would destroy the interior of my car.

You can transport the 361 on it's back. I have an SUV and when I picked up my 2 361's, I put one on it's back, slid it in then turned it up on it's side. Then I slid the other in on it's back. No issue (5 hours back to Toronto). I could have put some cardboard under it if I was worried.

 

[aborgman]

So where exactly is the line?

Commercial ventures.

 

[Quickie]

Its amazing. Vechking made that post a month ago.. and still no one has product in their hands..

He said the same thing 2 years ago.. then again last year..

is he so hard up for attention that he has to SPAM to get someone to talk with him?

I notice you support (endorse) Genz-Benz.

 

[Quickie]

I think this news is a snoozer - 40 years ago, a few guys used the Acoustic 360 rig. Then Sunn and Ampeg came along and blew the Acoustic off the stage so badly the company went out of business. In the 80's, SWR, Hartke and a bunch of others came along.
If the Acoustic 360 was bass nirvana, someone would have re-done the design and reintroduced it. Nostalgia only goes so far - you've got to step up and perform. I don't think a redone Acoustic 360 will cut it in today's bass market.

Really? What do you think this thread is about?

 

[Quickie]

Not a bad site.
I'm glad they put MSRP prices up. Usually you get things for less.
Computer generated photos - I don't get it, but I see this done on a lot of sites lately.

FWIW, Original Acoustics had a lifetime warranty. These seem to have 3 years. Isn't that what GC has? Maybe there's a connection. Ampeg has 5 years I think.

I don't like the blue. I've seen it in some old houses on the bathroom counter tops. I hope a future choice is no color.

Complain much?

 

[mccartneyman]

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Is that Seigfried or Roy?

 

[mccartneyman]

The 360 did sound great for its time. The 370, not so much. There's a 370 for sale locally for $150 and no one will touch it.

 

[Quickie]

Worthless, as they're only as good as the gear they're recorded with and listened to on.

Yeah, I hate listening to CD's myself.

 

[Quickie]

The 360 did sound great for its time. The 370, not so much. There's a 370 for sale locally for $150 and no one will touch it.

Well, it sucks being the pioneer of big bass rigs. So maybe they will do it better this time. I just don't get it. I really don't. Here is a company, (man) trying to bring back a legendary bass amp and I read more negativity than positive remarks from "musicians", many who were never even born at the time the original was manufactured and never even heard one.

I am all for freedom of opinion as I can be a pain in the azz myself, but, this site just has so many complainers and negative nellies.

 

[Quickie]

Why post in this thread at all then????

Exactly!! People just bashing this amp for the fun. And some wonder why I slant towards the manufacturer on this board (MM) as it seems that there are just so many that don't contribute to the thread...they sit back and just inject negativity.

 

[Quickie]

This whole "thing" is horse hockey. Consider this: Ampeg Heritage CL - $2,400 (give or take a couple of bucks) Ampeg HSVT8X10 - $1,300 total $3,700 round it up to $4,000 dollars after taxes, covers, etc etc.

I will put my rig up against ANY on the market today. Period. End of story.

Acoustic 360/361 rig MSRP $5,000. I don't know, but I would guess that you can probably get them cheaper. MSRP means "suggested" retail price.

Is the acoustic rig worth the money? I have no clue, I haven't played one. The guys that own it say YES! The rigs will soon be reviewed in the trade mags. Advertising will soon follow. Time will tell if this generation of players who don't seem to be capable of moving anything larger than an XBox will accept them.

But I always find it curious that guys who will defend $12,000 dollar bases like there is no tomorrow will belittle someone who pays more than $1,000 for an amp.

Frankly, I truly hope for acoustic USAs success, bass players should ALWAYS have another choice in amplification. However, as I have come to realize over the course of time on this forum - there will always be those who CONSTANTLY see the glass as half-empty. What sad little people these are....

Will you marry me?