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The Official Schroeder Club

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#541
nad said:
Quick question to anyone passing by:

Is there a simple way to remove the back panel on a Schroeder cab? I need to get in there but don't want to force the rear panel off in case I rip some crossover/input wires. It's jammed in there pretty good.

Spanks and stuff.

EDIT: flathead screwdriver, a little patience, and some vague brute strength. :smug:
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They are a royal pain to get off. A big flat head screw driver will do the job. I tried removing a speaker to push the back out (With A Hammer) didnt work. Jorg recommended the big screwdriver.:bassist:
 
#544
Hello all,

Here are a few words regarding my brand new (generation IV??, help me out here, Jorg) 410L.

This cab was purchased to sit under my MB SD800 and, maybe, my vintage TNT 200 watt all tuibe head. It was shipped from Jorg on Friday and arrived in Western Colorado on Tuesday a week ago. What incredible service from him and Fed-X!!!

This cab has the totally groovey Rhino? covering and the unique design has a shallower angled baffle, surface mounted drivers, NO rear access panel, round handles and is light LIGHT L I G H T!!! The tweet is on a short "peninsula" of wood which dosen't run all the way across the top of the cab and the logo is at the upper left corner.

I didn't have a lot of time to spend with it before the Thursday evening gig at the Fruita Civic Center with a loud 5 pc blues band and, WOW, was this an eye-opener!!

I've usually gigged with a Schroe 1210R or EA NL210 and my iAmp800 or, most recently, the SD800 with good to very good results. The 410L, at the same settings, is a completely different stage experience! As I said above, I had no time to work out settings before downbeat so I set the SD flat with just a touch of either "v" knob for flavor and dived right in! The most obvious was the increase in vol and punch! Can you believe this? The drummer asked me to turn down!! Aside from the poor performance of the TI PowerBass strings, I was really pleased with cab. My "incentive" cash was supposed to buy a small gig/practice amp but the 410L called and I responded.

My next gig was on Saturday, at Boomers nightclub in Grand Junction, with the Jason Runnells Trio. He is a very talented singer/songwriter in the vein of John Mayer. Paul Kelly sat on the throne and does a marvelous job on drums. He has a strong jazz background and bringe this to Jason's music with taste and style. The stage is very microphonic so I had to mind the low-end and just used the "VLE" a bit. Jason recorded the evening direct to laptop and I will put up some clips when I get the disc. The cab is amazing. It has the ability to get much louder than I played. It is solid and tonally very versatlle.

I'll put up pics as soon as I learn how!!

Thanks for a moment of your time to read this.

Later, Kirk
 
#546
jnewmark said:
Does anyone set their 1210R vertically instead of horizontal?
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I use my 1010R vertically on top off a DR Bass 112LF in it's normal position. I have tried my cab both ways but have not heard a significant difference. I do like the cab being vertical because it is up higher. I have read posts on this forums that will differ with my opinion. Recommend that you do some searches on this topic.
 
#549
::::BASSIST:::: said:
I've experimented with my 1212R vertical and horizontal, and found that I definitely get a noticeably boost in the lows when its horizontal. Not a huge amount, but enough to notice.
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I've messed around with different orientations and it seems like I get the most low end with it vertical and the angled driver down, and the least lows with the angled driver up.

Anyone else tried this yet?
 
#551
Akami said:
I've messed around with different orientations and it seems like I get the most low end with it vertical and the angled driver down, and the least lows with the angled driver up.

Anyone else tried this yet?
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I've tried it in these to configs and you are right. More lows and deeper sound with the angled driver down. I recently used my 1212L with the angled driver up. This is a very good position for using the cab as a stage monitor.
 
#553
So when you use it with the angled driver firing down in a vertical position, that means that the 12 is on top, with the tweeter on the bottom?
 
#555
The GAS bug has bitten again and I have joined the ranks of Schroeder owners,:hyper: number me up please.

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#557
::::BASSIST:::: said:
#61 Ezbass

Congrads! I would love to see / hear the difference between my 1212R and a 1212L
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If I could find an excuse (and the money) to come the BC I would willingingly bring it with me, I miss BC it's been 7 months since I was last out.

This what Jorg said when I asked what the tonal differences were between the L & R "the new 1212L with the Made in the UK equipped Celestion neos sound very close to the regulars, close but not 100% identical; but they are punchier and cleaner, not hi fi and they cut live through the mix like a sword without sounding overwhelming".

Thanks for the number.
 
#558
I point my sidefiring speaker on the 1212L up at me a lot, provding my own personal stage monitor.
I do this more with DB than I do with electric.
It also makes for a real small stage footprint when that's an issue.

jnewmark said:
Does anyone set their 1210R vertically instead of horizontal?
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#559
they cut live through the mix like a sword without sounding overwhelming
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Truer words were never spoken. I played at an open-air outdoor patio bar (no PA support) this past weekend, and towards the end I took the opportunity to stroll out with my wireless-equipped bass and listen to my rig. I did this before at this same venue and had been surprized at how little bass there was in the mix.
What I heard this time was a completely different sound, with the bass sitting fat and pretty, but the best part was the harmonics I could hear. Back at the position where I stand next to the drummer the bass was loud, but clear and sort of dry. But out front - oh boy, it was a tonefest. The band was playing "You Are Like a Hurricane" with a 2X10 Dr. Z Maz 38 on one side and 100-watt Engl w/2X12 on the other. During the guitar solos it gets pretty loud, but the bass still punched through and provided that harmonic cushion. I guess I never noticed that aspect of my bass tone before. From now on I most certainly will.
Here's the rig I used this past Sunday at the beach gig:

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The only other thing I want to add is a WT800C, eventually.
 
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