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The Orville

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Brian Thompson had roles in Enterprise, TNG, DS9, & Generations.

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Gorn said:
It's worse than just unexpected. Not that there's been any real character development with her but it wasn't in her character at all. Someone else should've come up behind him with a vase or she could've convinced him there's another way or a dozen other options. What was the point of that character at all? That guy is a legit character actor with a million sci fi credits and at least one star trek roll that I can remember right now at 4:48AM. They made him seem almost kind or sympathetic. Why? So she would have uncontaminated blood to heal her son. The whole thing was just sloppy.
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Thank god they didn't. That has always been one of the stupidest and contrived devices ever used. It would have ruined it.
 
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Killed_by_Death said:
Ha, I was thinking the same thing about the vase on the head scenario, but I'm not sure who we can thank, Seth or the other writers.
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I'm trying to decide if it was sloppy writing to have her stab to death that character, or if the writers were purposely adding elements of chaos to the show to distinguish it from other ST franchises.

If the latter, then we should expect similar "shocking" behavior in future episodes.
 
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hbarcat said:
I'm trying to decide if it was sloppy writing to have her stab to death that character, or if the writers were purposely adding elements of chaos to the show to distinguish it from other ST franchises.

If the latter, then we should expect similar "shocking" behavior in future episodes.
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I thought she stabbed him then shot him. Maybe I am confusing her shooting her way back to the other three. I am going with deliberate.
 
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Killed_by_Death said:
"distinguish it from other ST franchises"

but it's not a Star Trek franchise

S.T. isn't going to have sophomoric jokes like the one between the doctor & Norm MacDonald's character.
It's not S.T. & I'm fine with that. The Trek fans are tearing it apart, as they do everything.
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More like, NEW JarJar Abrams Trek fans are tearing at it...
because most of us OLD guys are looking at it and seeing that Brannon Braga
has hit the mark again with the Orville. It's kind of like a Wheedon show, it's taken
a little bit to get rolling, but now they're starting to get comfy in the characters...

The stories are Definitely Old Trek, they're not pulling ANY punches, and they're
getting pretty thought-provoking...even made me rethink a thing or two...the writing is there.
Right now I consider the Orville to be on the same level as Firefly.
If they make it to a 2nd season, they'll surpass it.

On the Trek boards a lot of folks are saying that "The Orville" is more Trek than "Discovery" is.
I find that to be accurate. "Discovery" really sucks. The remake of Klingons is irritating.
The tactical ineptness of "D's" writers make you want to kick the screen in.
They have NO Idea how a ship is run, how it really Works, any military tactics are pre-Vietnam era,
worse than "Enterprise's" methods, to be certain. They could use a Naval technical advisor.
And an old beat cop to advise as well. "Discovery" needs a lot of help...

Me, I'll be catching "Gotham" and following it with "The Orville" on Thursday nites :)
GOT & "Walking Dead" on Sunday Nites!
 
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jugglingfreak said:
Stabbed first, non-fatal and he kept coming. No other choice.
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Other choice would have been to shoot him directly, since she had the gun, instead of risking it in a close range fight. I was surprised at that. And I agree with @Gorn: we were given mixed signals about the guy for no real reason.

Anyway, no biggie. I keep watching; the lineage is unmistakable and some of the stories are engaging enough - the rest, especially plot resolutions, is childish stuff they get away with because of all the childish that was also found in the original. As for the humour, it is tolerable for the most part, but it's failed at eliciting more than a single chuckle so far (the AVIS "prayer" of all things). It is pretty much what I expected after the first episode (the promo I saw was basically selling the show as comedy).
Overall, I prefer Discovery by a significant margin, but it's great to have two of these instead of one. Wish I had been there in the US when Deep Space 9 was airing, and there was also another ongoing series at all times (broadcasting of TNG, DS9 and - ugh - VOY was erratic here). No, I'm not a JJ-Trek fan by any means.
 
#220
That was incredible! Trekkies' heads all over the world exploded with that episode.
Here's what I've always hated about Star Trek:

  • They cured greed, poverty, hunger, and all social ills, but somehow, they also cured ROCK AND ROLL
  • Everything's always family friendly, except the intense violence
  • There are a million stupid rules that must never be broken
I could go on and on, but I love the idea of people shuttling around the galaxy in star ships, and I love the idea of using sci fi to tell stories.
This Orville episode took a ton of chances, and for me, was laugh-out-loud funny in places. I love that the Ramones were featured, and I love that there were unusual sexual pairings. I applaud the writers for being fun and adventurous.
Excellent!
 
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