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The Soundgear Club

Since I'm feeling nostalgic this morning, I'll throw this one in... This is the first bass I ever owned, a 1997 SR400. Sold the subwoofers out of my car to pay for it while I was on tour with Up With People. I haven't played it in a long LONG time since switching to 5's and 6's, but I still own it! :)

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My humble offerings ...

I always just used my bassists custom USA Precision (has an additional J-bass bridge pup) when playing bass on the country songs in the band that just busted up after 8 years. When going out and looking for one of my own in January after the break-up I went for an Ibanez SR/SRX. I owned an SRX390 and SRX2EX previously for recording and loved the feel. This time I fell in love with the maple board and flexibility of the SR370MBBT. Found one new with a small scratch in between the pups for $299. I know it's a cheapie ... but I still seriously love it, even after 3 months. I do a lot of fill-in work with new country, old country, top 40, and classic rock acts now that I'm between bands and the flexibility of the SR370 is pretty impressive.

I dial in a clear but warm tone on my amp with the guitar's pots all in the detents. On my amp the pots are all at noon except the BASS pot is rolled back to 9:00 and the CONTOUR pot is all the way off. With the guitar's pots in the detents this works great for most rock and top 40 tunes. I roll the treble pot up for slap-and-pop or when I just need a more hi-fi tone, since I find the sweeper to be a little thin when rolled back to SLAP. For songs with less high end like 'Black Velvet' I roll the treble pot back a little from the detent. For new country or country rock I often roll the bass pot up a tad to fatten it way up (a little goes a long way) and will also add a little treble with it for Leon Wilkeson. If I need a little grit I have a modded Bad Monkey. The 370 really does cover practically everything I do across all the different genres without ever having to touch the amp's controls. I am totally impressed with how flexible the little thing is and how many different bases it can cover. It's also light on my old/bad back and plays like a dream.

My only gripe is the excessive radius on the pickups that tends to leave the E and G strings lacking in volume compared to the A and D no matter how one adjusts the pups. I had to set up my bridge radius to match the pickups, rather than the maple board. Ibanez has corrected this on newer runs with a new pickup design and will sell me the new softer curved pups for $52 each.

The SRX700 is a perfect heavy metal/hard rock bass. It has a massive upper mid punch that I am told is due to the Alnico magnets in the pups. Cuts like a chainsaw thru a mix. It's perfect for hard rock and classic rock with a bit of EQ fiddling and on songs like Journey's 'Don't Stop Believing' the fills during the chorus sound exactly like my SRX. It seems to love dropped tunings, too. Plays like butter no matter how it's tuned, as long as the action is adjusted to compensate a little. My only gripe is it's lack of flexibility without serious EQ fiddling on the amp. So I can't move back and forth on it during a show unless a song needs that upper mid punch specifically. I am considering changing pups but will hate to lose that punch, in some ways. As much as I love the SRX, I might actually wind up trading it in for a second SR370 with rosewood board as a back-up and for alternate tunings unless I got picked up by a classic rock cover act where it totally fits. I'd love to have an MIJ SR850 or 950 just because they look cool and I remember that I loved the feel. i just don't remember what the tone was like nor how flexible they were.

Love me some Ibanez bass. Easy on the back. Easy on the wallet. Fast neck and easy to play for us lead guitar wankers.

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Phlipper I share your love of SRXs although for opposite reasons. I play them because to me they are a very versatile bass, although I'm sure we have very different rigs.

I use the Audiokinesis TC115 cabinet which has a very smooth and polite upper mid range (like a studio monitor) which is very different from a typical bass cab. I also use a Markbass LMlll and dial in a little VLE which adds warmth.

With this combo I have a great deal of variety. The neck pickup gives a bassic full sound like you might use with a P bass except when I need it to get aggressive it's just a tweak of the treble knob to achieve. And if I need to go deeper, the active electronics make that very easy to achieve. If I set the blend knob to use both pickups it takes on a very jazz like characteristic.

Any time I'm going into a situation that I haven't been in before and don't know what to expect, this is the rig I take because I know I can adjust to fit. But it does take the full rig to accomplish this.
 
Phlipper I share your love of SRXs although for opposite reasons. I play them because to me they are a very versatile bass, although I'm sure we have very different rigs.

I use the Audiokinesis TC115 cabinet which has a very smooth and polite upper mid range (like a studio monitor) which is very different from a typical bass cab. I also use a Markbass LMlll and dial in a little VLE which adds warmth.

With this combo I have a great deal of variety. The neck pickup gives a bassic full sound like you might use with a P bass except when I need it to get aggressive it's just a tweak of the treble knob to achieve. And if I need to go deeper, the active electronics make that very easy to achieve. If I set the blend knob to use both pickups it takes on a very jazz like characteristic.

Any time I'm going into a situation that I haven't been in before and don't know what to expect, this is the rig I take because I know I can adjust to fit. But it does take the full rig to accomplish this.

I don't remember the SRX390 and the SRX2EX having this massive upper mid push I find on the SRX700. I used them both for country tunes in my old band's setlist and I'm sure they worked fine or I'd have been made to use our bassist's P-bass. But the 700 takes heavy EQing to pull that off. It's radically different from the SR370 and SR500. I was told it was the alnico pups? It seems no matter where I set my amp with the 700 that sharp upper mid pushes right thru. Is it possible someone has messed with the preamp or with the wiring? I love the feel of it ... just seems one diminsional.

How are you EQ'ing your amp and SRX700 on an average night when you use it alone?
 
I don't remember the SRX390 and the SRX2EX having this massive upper mid push I find on the SRX700. I used them both for country tunes in my old band's setlist and I'm sure they worked fine or I'd have been made to use our bassist's P-bass. But the 700 takes heavy EQing to pull that off. It's radically different from the SR370 and SR500. I was told it was the alnico pups? It seems no matter where I set my amp with the 700 that sharp upper mid pushes right thru. Is it possible someone has messed with the preamp or with the wiring? I love the feel of it ... just seems one diminsional.

How are you EQ'ing your amp and SRX700 on an average night when you use it alone?

My 700 is an SR, not at SRX. It has Barts so it's a completely different animal. It's too polite up top in some ways and sustains too long for my tastes. I finally put flats on it and it is now the world's easiest/most fun bass to play. Unfortunately it doesn't sound like my SRXs so those get most of the play time. I know that sounds backwards, but with my amp and cab, the SRXs are the best match I've found.
 
My 700 is an SR, not at SRX. It has Barts so it's a completely different animal. It's too polite up top in some ways and sustains too long for my tastes. I finally put flats on it and it is now the world's easiest/most fun bass to play. Unfortunately it doesn't sound like my SRXs so those get most of the play time. I know that sounds backwards, but with my amp and cab, the SRXs are the best match I've found.


Want to trade for an SRX?
 
Hello fellow SR owners. I currently own a pre mid switch Ibby SR500 and after trying a jackson cb xv with emg 40hz's I found out I actually kind of enjoyed the sound I was getting out of it.

However I wanted to ask you guys just out of curiosity, if you could swap the pickups and electronics on this bass, what would you put on it and why?
 
Hello fellow SR owners. I currently own a pre mid switch Ibby SR500 and after trying a jackson cb xv with emg 40hz's I found out I actually kind of enjoyed the sound I was getting out of it.

However I wanted to ask you guys just out of curiosity, if you could swap the pickups and electronics on this bass, what would you put on it and why?

Does it already have Barts on it? (I'm hardly an Ibby expert, sorry)

The higher end Ibanez basses have Nordstrand pickups which I've heard are great, so I'd get those. You could (hypothetically) make a $500 bass sound like an $1000 bass for a little over $100 (I think they don't sell them in sets though...so more like $200).
 
IMHO, I believe the weakness in the 500 series and up is the Bartolini MK1 3-band EQ. I would just change that out to a USA Bart NTMB Preamp, (4.6 or 5.2). You could also get a set of USA Bart MK soapbars, (if Barts are what you like). That's exactly what I'm in the process of doing to my SR905. (Going to US made Bartolini stuff.)
 
Thanks, but I'd just be duplicating the sound I have, or if yours has a mid bump difference, might be trading for something not to my liking. If we were in the same city I'd say let's get together and at least check them out. Just doesn't work out that way.
What I'd like to find is a Japanese made 800-850. What little I've heard I really liked.

Never seen an SR850 whats the difference?
 
I was trying to find out more about SR800 and 900 series since I found a killer deal on one, but not much info out there.

However ...

After playing multiple examples of new and older 300s, 370s, 400s, 500s, and 700s I've finally decided to just buy another 300 or 370 and change the pups to the new less radiused CAP EXF N2. I actually like them better for what I do than the Bart M1s, which are a bit darker. I like the weight of the 300 series since I'm old and have shoulder and back issues, love the neck since I'm coming from guitar, I like the flexibility of tones, the wood doesn't bother me a bit, and I prefer the EXFs over Barts. So I can buy another 300 or 370 used dirt cheap and add $104 for new style pups and have a pair of basses that work for all my fill-in gigs, always having a backup. I can take the inevitable ridicule of not having pair of SR500s or better. When I'm earning $1000 a month or better playing bass I'll worry about a new high-end Ibby. :D

I'll keep the SRX700 for classic rock.
 
Phlipper, since you've played so many different models, would you mind to offer a comparison of sound, weight, neck, comfort, features - whatever. It would be nice if we started a list here and gathered basic info. There are so many models that no one person could ever play them all. Might be helpful.
 
My experience is somewhat limited, due to being a guitarist primarily and having only 30 minutes or so with the 400 and 700. But here's what I thought ...

SR300M (newer five pot model with N2 pups) - felt just like my SR370M in almost every way, a little different in the weight, even though I think it's the same wood. But still the lightest bass I've played since my SRX390 and SRX2EX. Neck is fast as hell and easy for guitarists to transition to. Playing way up the neck is very easy yet I never feel 'crowded' down near the nut despite the narrow width. The frets were not dressed well past the neck joint, just like 370. I love the new CAP EXF N2 pickups, they sound just like my older Ibanez pups (that have too much radius), but all the strings are equal in tone and volume. Ibanez listened to complaints I reckon. The add copy I saw even mentioned keeping all the strings at equal volume with the EFX N2s. The radius is very noticeably reduced and sounds much better as a result. I can get a crystal clear hi-fi tone for slapping, roll the treble pot back for a smooth punchy tone, or add/subtract a touch of bass for different rooms. The preamp gets little respect on TB, but I like it just fine with the new pups.

SR370M (older 4 pot model with heavily radius pickups) - same as above … fast, light as a feather but no neck dive, excellent flexibility in tone. I can pull everything I need from it for country, top 40 (more slapping), classic rock, or backing acoustic gigs (two singers and an acoustic guitar. I love it. But … the E and G strings are weak no matter how the pickups are set. I’ve read a few complaints about this, and Ibanez has redesigned the pups and I’ll be replacing the stock ones for the new style soon. This bass does every I need, it covers every style I play when doing fill-in work and covers my full-time New Country gig. I pretty much set my amp flat and use the volume, treble and bass pots to adjust for the tone on a specific song or adjust for a room. I’m always impressed with how flexible a $399 bass can be. My only issues have been the pup radius, and that the frets were not dressed well past the neck joint.

SR400 w/ rosewood (?) board and new style pots and pups - feels and sounds essentially like the SR300/370. Again, the strings have an equal volume everywhere due to the redesigned pups, but it hangs, plays, feels, and sounds just like the 300 series. Love it. Not sure what the difference is, the weight feels the same, neck feels the same, I probably couldn’t tell if someone was handing me a 400 or a 300 if I were blind folded.

SR500 w/ rosewood (?) board - noticeably heavier than the 300 series, so also no neck dive, of course. Neck feels the same as the 300s to me. Same tone flexibility except the Bart seems to need a little more treble than the CAP pups for sets that need a clear very hi-fi sound. String volume across the entire fretboard was even. No hotspots or dead strings, no weak strings. Excellent tone, and sustain. To me it is everything the 300 and 370 is except more even string volume and slightly heavier. I’d probably love an SR500M.

SR700 w/ rosewood (?) board - everything said about the 500 goes here, too. The neck feels different from the 500/300 somehow. Not sure how or why, cuz I think it’s the same. It may be the strings were very different? Possibly feels slightly heavier than the 500, but still not as heavy as the SRX 700. The SRX700 feels like a Les Paul when strapping it on after playing the 370 for an hour. The SRX7 can actually give me a bit of shoulder ache over a 4 hour gig or long practice. The SR700 is not that heavy. Just not used to the weight since my six strings are all G&L Legacys or Gretsch 51XXs. The SR700 just feels more 'substantial' somehow. It might be my eyes telling me things I don't really feel, but it feels more expensive than the others. It feels high end, even though it's not much more than the 500 and is probably similar in pups, preamp, woods, etc. No fret sprout and they were fully dressed all the way down.

YMMV of course.
 
Good info, thanks!
I assume you mean SRX700 as opposed to SR700.

My experiences are:
SRX2 and SRX3 - sound exactly the same and feel exactly the same. The three has a sunburst and probably has different body wood because of that. Sound wise they can do deep and full on the neck pu or mid range and burpy on the bridge. The upper mids are very aggressive which is the big plus or minus depending on your needs and gear. Works beautifully with my rig. No mid switch but strangely never have missed it. Pickup selection seems to take care of it. The most versatile basses I own - good for everything. Inconsistent fret work edges everywhere - not horrible, but not very good either. I had one of them re-dressed. Very slim necks and light weight but not a slim body because of the binding.

SR700 - the easiest playing bass I have ever played. Sleek, comfortable body, fabulous neck - the jatoba/bubinga neck has a unique feel to it that I really love. Hard to describe - very smooth. The Bart MK1s sound great on the lows and mids but the highs are a very very high frequency - so that makes them sizzly. Reminds me of the sound a lot of jazz guys use. Not to my taste though. I'm working on bringing that frequency down. Installed an MK4 and am going to mess with the electronics.

SR755 - same description as the 700 but obviously a 5 string. I choose basses carefully and try to pick ones with straight necks. They're not all the same even if you're looking at several of the same model. This one is straight as an arrow. I'd bet 20 yrs from now it still will be. Same sound as the 700 but it's somewhat OK for this one to be sizzly because it's tuned EADGC and I play chords on it and "lighter" songs. Same sleek body but this one is obviously heavier due to the extra string, tuner, and bigger bridge.

I also played an SR200 recently and it was the lightest of all Ibbys I've played. It seemed to have an even narrower neck than the other Ibbys - but that might be an illusion due to the light weight - it just seemed easy to play. Yeah, it felt cheap, but man if I was a guitarist converting to bass, I'd be all over that and just do a little fret work.

Played a bunch of models I can't remember at GC and came away impressed with the CAPS pickups. Played some of the 1200 series but didn't like the Nords as much as the Barts. YMMV. Stunning instruments though. Wow.

OK - who's next?