The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

[GR7G5TER]

What settings did you land on with that super p? Sounds like a great match for the grand slampegg

Coincidentally, I'm waiting on a green SP1!

That is a coincidence!, This is my Super P



You're gonna love it, they are fantasic basses, I love the quadtone selector much better than blends or VV set up and it plays like a dream. It's acabale of a wide range of P tones.

To be honest I've used all of the settings! If you look at it that you have 3 bass and 3 treble presets (0,5 & 10) you get a usable sound in all 9 "presest"

These are the two of the main settings I've been using when i practice (along with a reverse of the rock for a slap/funk tone).

I knida feel the GS is wasted as my desktop pre but it is perfect for that application, and my pedal board does have a FX loop so can always add it in if needed.

My Sushi wrapped HX stomp board should be finished very soon, which I'll be postng up here!

 

[Michael Vee]

Gr7g, your Super-P picture isn't accessible from the link you posted.

 

[GR7G5TER]

Gr7g, your Super-P picture isn't accessible from the link you posted.

It was a you tube link, I've editted the post, but this is the link:

 

[Snake101st]

That is a coincidence!, This is my Super P



You're gonna love it, they are fantasic basses, I love the quadtone selector much better than blends or VV set up and it plays like a dream. It's acabale of a wide range of P tones.

To be honest I've used all of the settings! If you look at it that you have 3 bass and 3 treble presets (0,5 & 10) you get a usable sound in all 9 "presest"

These are the two of the main settings I've been using when i practice (along with a reverse of the rock for a slap/funk tone).

I knida feel the GS is wasted as my desktop pre but it is perfect for that application, and my pedal board does have a FX loop so can always add it in if needed.

My Sushi wrapped HX stomp board should be finished very soon, which I'll be postng up here!

Awesome, thanks a lot for the response there! I'll give those settings a go for sure when it gets here

As you can probably see via my profile pic with my Z3, I am already a huge Dingwall fan hehe... Very excited to try the SP1. I had a d-roc and an NG3 before, but sold both to fund the Z3 when I found it for too good of a deal to pass up.

All of the sushi stuff I've tried has played very well with the Z3, but like I mentioned a while back, the Venus X is something else!

 

[GR7G5TER]

Awesome, thanks a lot for the response there! I'll give those settings a go for sure when it gets here

As you can probably see via my profile pic with my Z3, I am already a huge Dingwall fan hehe... Very excited to try the SP1. I had a d-roc and an NG3 before, but sold both to fund the Z3 when I found it for too good of a deal to pass up.

All of the sushi stuff I've tried has played very well with the Z3, but like I mentioned a while back, the Venus X is something else!

You're welcome dude, the combo of the SP and the GS is beautiful, literally couldn't get a bad sound out of it at any setting,even the J pup solo'd sounded like it could (maybe) be usable!

I've played a whole bunch of Dingwalls there is a fantastic shop (https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/ no affiliation) near to my Mum's place that always has a great select of Dingwalls in stock and there are all fantastic instruments.

 

[RAININENGLAND]

I recently bought a UA and love it. I’m new to tubes and want to buy an extra for traveling. The pedal came with a JJ ECC83s, but I’ve noticed there are several versions available (high gain, balanced triodes, low noise, etc.) Does anyone know which specific version of the ECC83s comes stock with the UA?

 

[GR7G5TER]

I recently bought a UA and love it. I’m new to tubes and want to buy an extra for traveling. The pedal came with a JJ ECC83s, but I’ve noticed there are several versions available (high gain, balanced triodes, low noise, etc.) Does anyone know which specific version of the ECC83s comes stock with the UA?

I believe they come stock with a JJ 12AX7 one of these guys JJ Electronic - ECC83S - 12AX7, 7025

 

[Michael Vee]

I recently bought a UA and love it. I’m new to tubes and want to buy an extra for traveling. The pedal came with a JJ ECC83s, but I’ve noticed there are several versions available (high gain, balanced triodes, low noise, etc.) Does anyone know which specific version of the ECC83s comes stock with the UA?

Sounds like you bought one secondhand. Take some time to search the thread, as tube choices for SBFX pedals have been discussed many times and in considerable detail.

 

[rickdog]

I recently bought a UA and love it. I’m new to tubes and want to buy an extra for traveling. The pedal came with a JJ ECC83s, but I’ve noticed there are several versions available (high gain, balanced triodes, low noise, etc.) Does anyone know which specific version of the ECC83s comes stock with the UA?

Umm, why do you need "an extra for traveling"? If you carry a spare in a little cardboard box it's more likely to get damaged than the one installed inside a metal case.

My UA came with a JJ ECC83S, nothing special about it. It's got plenty of gain, there's no need for balanced triodes (that's useful in rare cases in things like hifi amps), don't worry about low noise (unless you're having noise problems in the pedal itself, not counting outside interference). If you're happy with the way your UA sounds, just get another of those and call it good. (Tip: swap in the new one when you get it to make sure it works right, keep the original one as a known-good spare.)

As discussed here a little while back, there are a lot of compatible tubes that have slightly different characteristics and thus sound a little different. I tried a few in my UA and settled on a JJ ECC803S. It has slightly less gain, and to my ear it is more pleasing when the Gain knob is up and it starts to saturate. You might want to buy one of the other compatible types and try it; keep the best sounding one in the pedal, and carry the other as a spare.

 

[GR7G5TER]

Umm, why do you need "an extra for traveling"? If you carry a spare in a little cardboard box it's more likely to get damaged than the one installed inside a metal case.

My UA came with a JJ ECC83S, nothing special about it. It's got plenty of gain, there's no need for balanced triodes (that's useful in rare cases in things like hifi amps), don't worry about low noise (unless you're having noise problems in the pedal itself, not counting outside interference). If you're happy with the way your UA sounds, just get another of those and call it good. (Tip: swap in the new one when you get it to make sure it works right, keep the original one as a known-good spare.)

As discussed here a little while back, there are a lot of compatible tubes that have slightly different characteristics and thus sound a little different. I tried a few in my UA and settled on a JJ ECC803S. It has slightly less gain, and to my ear it is more pleasing when the Gain knob is up and it starts to saturate. You might want to buy one of the other compatible types and try it; keep the best sounding one in the pedal, and carry the other as a spare.

@rickdog that is sound advice!

Sounds like a good time to repost these with all this talk of buying tubes,@RAININENGLAND there are subtle differences between different brands and you can experiment with NOS tubes as well, it's not necessary but it can be fun!

I can't remember who original posted these up but i think it was @havnjero but there are useful to put you in the ball park of you may want to change with your tone.

 

[RAININENGLAND]

Umm, why do you need "an extra for traveling"? If you carry a spare in a little cardboard box it's more likely to get damaged than the one installed inside a metal case.

My UA came with a JJ ECC83S, nothing special about it. It's got plenty of gain, there's no need for balanced triodes (that's useful in rare cases in things like hifi amps), don't worry about low noise (unless you're having noise problems in the pedal itself, not counting outside interference). If you're happy with the way your UA sounds, just get another of those and call it good. (Tip: swap in the new one when you get it to make sure it works right, keep the original one as a known-good spare.)

As discussed here a little while back, there are a lot of compatible tubes that have slightly different characteristics and thus sound a little different. I tried a few in my UA and settled on a JJ ECC803S. It has slightly less gain, and to my ear it is more pleasing when the Gain knob is up and it starts to saturate. You might want to buy one of the other compatible types and try it; keep the best sounding one in the pedal, and carry the other as a spare.

Thanks for your help! I start tour soon and need to be prepared in case a tube dies. Don’t worry, it’ll be packed safely in my pelican case.

 

[bucephylus]

Hey thanks!

As Nathan said, the no talking version is out now.


Important thing to me is people get a chance to decide what they think for themselves without having to listen to me ramble.

The comparison between the Np and the Noble reminds me VERY much of the difference I hear between the Demeter preamps with no output buffer tube and those with the second tube on the output buffer. I realize the argument is that all the tone shaping occurs in the preamp tube. Yet, I do find that the output buffer tube produces a noticeably more robust tone, while the preamps without that feature sound “thin” in comparison.

I heard that same difference in this video. I hear that characteristic in my Venus Z preamp. The tone shaping is great; but, the output just sounds “thin.”

I would almost be tempted to purchase the Noble on the 40 week or whatever wait list. My issue is that I have devices on my board, which the Noble is unable to power. And, I really don’t want to have to plug in both a Noble AND a CIOKS power supply.

I feel like pedal board preamps still have an unmet need. I like the idea. They just aren’t doing what my rack gear does. Yet.

 

[bucephylus]

Umm, why do you need "an extra for traveling"? If you carry a spare in a little cardboard box it's more likely to get damaged than the one installed inside a metal case.

My UA came with a JJ ECC83S, nothing special about it. It's got plenty of gain, there's no need for balanced triodes (that's useful in rare cases in things like hifi amps), don't worry about low noise (unless you're having noise problems in the pedal itself, not counting outside interference). If you're happy with the way your UA sounds, just get another of those and call it good. (Tip: swap in the new one when you get it to make sure it works right, keep the original one as a known-good spare.)

As discussed here a little while back, there are a lot of compatible tubes that have slightly different characteristics and thus sound a little different. I tried a few in my UA and settled on a JJ ECC803S. It has slightly less gain, and to my ear it is more pleasing when the Gain knob is up and it starts to saturate. You might want to buy one of the other compatible types and try it; keep the best sounding one in the pedal, and carry the other as a spare.

+1

I carried spare tubes in my gear bag for years in the rack days, and never one time used one of those. Preamp tubes, IME, rarely go dead all of a sudden. So, far, never, IME.

 

[HoHumbucker]

Question for you folks who Sushi XLR out. I have both the Np and the PMLE. They have a separate volume control for the XLR DI out.

Where do you set that volume control? Full clockwise (which I assume is max)? Somewhere in between? Does it change depending on the FoH engineer or console or bass?

My skills are not enough to play out at this point, but I would like to know before I do.

 

[laklandplayer]

I replaced the 12AX7 in my UA with a lower gain Mullard 12AU7 and it was a big improvement to my ears, I have more gain before distortion and it lowered the noise floor considerably. I found the 12AX7 to be too hot and aggressive for my playing needs since I'm not looking for overdrive or distortion. The cool thing about the UA is the ability to experiment with different 12A*7 series tubes to find the right fit for your desired sound.

 

[Scott Freeman]

Question for you folks who Sushi XLR out. I have both the Np and the PMLE. They have a separate volume control for the XLR DI out.

Where do you set that volume control? Full clockwise (which I assume is max)? Somewhere in between? Does it change depending on the FoH engineer or console or bass?

My skills are not enough to play out at this point, but I would like to know before I do.

For my use-case, I'm going from the Np into an Acoustic Image Clarus with the xlr, and it's expecting a mic-level input, so the level is set low. In other cases, for instance going directly into a power amp or powered speaker, you would want a line-level output from the xlr. It's nice to have options.

 

[rickdog]

Question for you folks who Sushi XLR out. I have both the Np and the PMLE. They have a separate volume control for the XLR DI out.

Where do you set that volume control? Full clockwise (which I assume is max)? Somewhere in between? Does it change depending on the FoH engineer or console or bass?

Just on general principles (I don't have a Sushi pedal with XLR out) - it depends very much on where that signal is going. As was just noted, you might be going into an amp that expects mic level, or a power amp that expects line level.

If you're going to a mixer... it depends. You're probably sending a signal down a long balanced cable, so you want as high a level as the mixer will accept (this means better signal/noise ratio). A good mixer will have a gain control for the balanced input, which can be turned down for your hot signal to avoid overloading its preamp. Some mixers may only have a switch that selects mic or line level, and you may need to adjust your output to suit. A mixer might not have any input gain control and always expect mic level, so you'll have to turn down your volume. And some sound techs may not want (or even know how) to adjust the input gain on their preamp, so again you'll have to make the adjustment. It's probably best to ask the sound tech what they want you to send them.

 

[noahw1]

Is there an easy way to replace the tube in the UA? It’s pretty tight in there and I don’t want to damage something by forcing it unnecessarily.
Do you need to remove the knobs too?

 

[ElectricMatthew]

 

[jcburn]

Hello to the devout Sushi brethren.
I'm fairly happy with my basic setup of tuner-EBS Multicomp-Aguilar THDI as far as my tone shaping preamp setup running into the effects loop of any amp. The THDI has a decent DI out too but I'm intrigued to know tonally what adding a Finally to the end of that chain would do? Can anyone give me an idea?

I like the idea of adding the HPF after the THDI to tame anything under 30hz. But I'm interested to send the tube flavour through to both an amp and FOH.

For anyone who uses it like this how would you describe the effect on 1. Direct sound and 2. Stage rig sound?

Apologies if this is already covered in here.