The function of a transformer in a D.I. is to covert the unbalanced signal to a balanced signal for the XLR output, any coloration added is just an added bonus. The 1/4" output on Finally never touched the transformer.
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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society
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I searched and didn’t see this answer; but 1287 pages is a lot, and I admit I did not review them all - can we sticky this topic, I’m sure it’s been covered?
I wondered if there is a general consensus as to order of pedals. I have an Underground Accelerator, Single Slice Compressor, More, and Finally in an attempt to build a fly rig that gets close(ish) to my tube amps. I know only I can experiment and find what I really want; but generally, my needs are on the warmer, cleaner side. I play mostly Americana, red dirt country, folk, and blues/southern classic rock (nothing really hard or distorted). If it says anything about my tonal tastes, I like a Fender passive bass through an Ampeg (set warm and mellow, just a little grind); and I prefer a Stingray Classic through a Fender tube tone stack; so I think I am generally looking for a clean, warm, “vintage” sound. Any advice on where to start?
I wondered if there is a general consensus as to order of pedals. I have an Underground Accelerator, Single Slice Compressor, More, and Finally in an attempt to build a fly rig that gets close(ish) to my tube amps. I know only I can experiment and find what I really want; but generally, my needs are on the warmer, cleaner side. I play mostly Americana, red dirt country, folk, and blues/southern classic rock (nothing really hard or distorted). If it says anything about my tonal tastes, I like a Fender passive bass through an Ampeg (set warm and mellow, just a little grind); and I prefer a Stingray Classic through a Fender tube tone stack; so I think I am generally looking for a clean, warm, “vintage” sound. Any advice on where to start?
For cleanest I'd put the comp at the beginning to minimize noise and the likelihood of more downstream OD than desired......and perhaps more importantly, I'd remain objectively open to the very real possibility that the best sounding combination may not include all those pedals. IME/ IMO more tube pedals in a chain does not lead to better sound, and occasionally produces muddier results with more noise.
Thank you - I figured I may not want them all, especially the More may be too much or unnecessary; but I figured it’s better to have them and not want something than the other way around. At least I got 2 used here, and I got the other 2 direct from Sushi Box.
If I were use them all I’d go Single Slice>UA>More>Finally?? Really depends on if you want to compress your whole sound or just the bass before it hits the preamp as to where to put the compressor. You’ll probably find you like the UA with your Stingray as the tone stack on there is Fenderesque. There used to be a smaller Slampegg Bee that sounds great for that B-15 sort of sound; now there’s the Grand Slampegg, but theoretically if you found a Slampegg you could use one with your precision and the UA with the stingray into the Finally
I have a honky tonk recording session coming up and this is my pedalboard for it.
With this bass.
I like the UA first for the saggy tube sound, if I put anything before it starts sounding less vintage.
To be contrary… I put compression after drive pedals so they get the full playing dynamics. So I’d put More first as an optional boost into the UA. Then compression to level things out before the Finally.
Thanks for the replies! So far, with just an hour +/- playing the StingRay Classic 5 (which is my current favorite, but I cycle, I can’t stay monogamous to one!) and changing the order, and starting with all knobs at noon:
- It seems like Single Slice / UA / More / Finally was starting at as much gain (distortion) as I would use for this particular band, maybe too much;
- While More / UA / Single Slice / Finally was the opposite. The More just acted as a volume control and didn’t seem to affect the saturation; the UA did its thing tone shaping; and the Single Slice was just about right.
Both yielded what was I was hoping to improve from my previous fly setup - which was to get a more tubey warmth, especially in the high mids and highs. I liked the tone, but I just couldn’t quite get the heft that I get through the all tube rigs. I was very pleased to find that I can cut some of the gain to reduce distortion from the “typical” arrangement and get plenty of useable sounds for my purposes here, and that’s probably how I would start in an average southern rock, harder country, arrangement; and with the second option, all neutral was very close to where I want to be for this mellower stuff - I actually boosted a little grind and punch. I haven’t gotten to play it through the full PA, just one of my monitors tonight in “Bass Amp” mode, but I am very, very pleased and excited to get them on the full setup with the sub and really see what I can do!!!
- It seems like Single Slice / UA / More / Finally was starting at as much gain (distortion) as I would use for this particular band, maybe too much;
- While More / UA / Single Slice / Finally was the opposite. The More just acted as a volume control and didn’t seem to affect the saturation; the UA did its thing tone shaping; and the Single Slice was just about right.
Both yielded what was I was hoping to improve from my previous fly setup - which was to get a more tubey warmth, especially in the high mids and highs. I liked the tone, but I just couldn’t quite get the heft that I get through the all tube rigs. I was very pleased to find that I can cut some of the gain to reduce distortion from the “typical” arrangement and get plenty of useable sounds for my purposes here, and that’s probably how I would start in an average southern rock, harder country, arrangement; and with the second option, all neutral was very close to where I want to be for this mellower stuff - I actually boosted a little grind and punch. I haven’t gotten to play it through the full PA, just one of my monitors tonight in “Bass Amp” mode, but I am very, very pleased and excited to get them on the full setup with the sub and really see what I can do!!!
Depends I think
When drive means real dirt I'd want the dynamics. Yes.
But I use drive as a very subtle harmonic enrichment. There I really don't want a dynamic response and get hair or grit. So for me it is comp first.
Did I miss something? What’s this? Looks like more with an extra switch?
Less labeling so I'm going with "Less"
There is a serious downside to this pedal, the toggle switch precludes putting the proper sized knob in place.
You can always get one that's really tall instead.
Hpf is my guess?
