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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society
- Thread starter kranahan
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- Dec 21, 2007
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I do not (7:20 Pacific time). I see the spaces for them and the link but not the photo - not the thumbnail on the Products page or the large photo on the item page.
I am, however, really excited about my Finally coming in the next few weeks.
I was, and I will again someday, if I ever gig again. I had mine in the fx loop of a Warwick LWA1000. A very clean, transparent amp, that benefitted from the tube.
I do not (7:20 Pacific time). I see the spaces for them and the link but not the photo - not the thumbnail on the Products page or the large photo on the item page.
I am, however, really excited about my Finally coming in the next few weeks.
Thanks, wanted to make sure it wasn't just me. I've called in the professionals, hopefully @Sonicblaze can fix whatever I broke on the website, which he has done many times already and will surely do many times in the future.
- Feb 16, 2008
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Alright, @Sonicblaze got it fixed, you should be able to see all of them now.
But obviously let me know if you still can't
But obviously let me know if you still can't
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- Dec 21, 2007
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Hey everyone - been away for a long time and this thread motors along a fair bit to keep up to date on.
@Sushi Box FX - sir I just had a look at your website and noticed plans for the Furthermore. My current IR loader of choice is a Joyo Cabzone. It worked well but the build quality is a bit crap. The USB port has given out on me for the second time so I think Im over this unit.
The Furthermore sounds perfect to me? Any rough idea of when the unit may see the light of day? I do understand the Cab IR part is giving you grief.
Could I also ask - assuming the XLR out will have the affected/wet signal would it be hard to implement an unaffected 1/4" output to send directly to an amp? I play lots of gigs where I have FOH support, but still use an amp onstage. Would be great to be able to send the affected signal to FOH mixer, but the unaffected signal to onstage amp.
Apologies if all this has been answered.
@Sushi Box FX - sir I just had a look at your website and noticed plans for the Furthermore. My current IR loader of choice is a Joyo Cabzone. It worked well but the build quality is a bit crap. The USB port has given out on me for the second time so I think Im over this unit.
The Furthermore sounds perfect to me? Any rough idea of when the unit may see the light of day? I do understand the Cab IR part is giving you grief.
Could I also ask - assuming the XLR out will have the affected/wet signal would it be hard to implement an unaffected 1/4" output to send directly to an amp? I play lots of gigs where I have FOH support, but still use an amp onstage. Would be great to be able to send the affected signal to FOH mixer, but the unaffected signal to onstage amp.
Apologies if all this has been answered.
I may get an Elementary, or a More, especially with that special choice color this month!
So....... about glass butterfly.......the tube complement differs slightly from More......which seems to provide a little less gain....and from the description, the tubes are in the unaffected path, so if the mix is all effect, there's no tube in the signal ....if I have it right so far. How "warm" can the unaffected signal get with the pair of AT7s? Can it get into slight furriness if pushed? If one of the AT7s is swapped for an AU7 will the unaffected side effectively be a More???
I don't have a rough idea on when Furthermore (whose name will probably change to avoid confusion with More) will be ready, as you mentioned the IR section has been bothering me. I had a somewhat promising prototype, but it had a couple issues and I shelved it until I had more time that I could devote to it, which ended up not happening. I still want it, I'm still planning on it, but I don't know when. Certainly not very soon.
The plan is to have the XLR output be affected signal only and I'll either have the 1/4" output be switchable between affected and dry passthrough or I'll have a separate 1/4" jack for each. This will be significantly larger than Finally so there should be plenty of room for an extra 1/4" jack. When I started work on Finally I had enough people specifically say that the option of 1/4" dry passthrough is an absolute must-have that I plan to put it on anything I ever make with an XLR out.
Sounds like I need to get in and clarify my description of Glass Butterfly.
For starters the tubes are never removed from the signal path, you will always have a tube input stage and tube output stage even when running the pedal 100% wet. So while the unaffected path is 100% tube, the affected path is still 80% tube.
Less tube gain doesn't mean less tube warmth, a 12AU7 still has that "tubey" sound even while having 1/5 the gain of 12AX7. 12AT7 has 2/3 the gain of 12AX7. The way it's configured though the only dirt should be coming on the output stage, the input stages are designed to run as buffers, so if Glass Butterfly is the only pedal in your chain you're not going to get drive out of it by itself. A boost in front of it could push it into overdrive territory, but that's it.
Swapping one of the tubes for a 12AU7 will not get you the sound of More, they're completely different topography. More is the only pedal I currently offer that has parallel tube stages, which in short changes the way the tube operates. So if you look at block diagrams, it would be like:
More:
Glass Butterfly:
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Yup, exactly that. More is Deep Dish without the compression section.
Will there be a repise of the Deep Dish) or similar in the near future?
I'd love to add a More to my signal path but worry if it'll be too much alongside the Compressore (and SBVT, SH and PF50T) and the deepdish sounds like the perfect solution!
I'd like to take a swing at a compressor again, but it isn't something immediately on my radar.
If that is the case anyone looking for a good tube sweetener to their rig I can highly recommend the more as that is exactly what I love about my deep dish compressor it sounds rich and full
I'm sure it would make Furthermore even larger for the needed controls, but why not consider an analog "cab sim" like the DSM OmniCabSim or OmniCabSim Mini, obviating the need for IRs?
