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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

I've been getting a lot of specific questions lately, both in the thread and via PM and email, I'm wondering if it may be a good time to do another live Q&A session. I did one a couple years ago and enjoyed it, and I planned for it to be more regular, but it never ended up happening again.

I don't mind questions in any form and am always happy to answer anything I can wherever it's asked, sometimes it just feels like I can answer better in person (or virtually in person) so you can see my weird facial expressions and vague hand gestures as I explain things :D
 
I've been getting a lot of specific questions lately, both in the thread and via PM and email, I'm wondering if it may be a good time to do another live Q&A session. I did one a couple years ago and enjoyed it, and I planned for it to be more regular, but it never ended up happening again.

I don't mind questions in any form and am always happy to answer anything I can wherever it's asked, sometimes it just feels like I can answer better in person (or virtually in person) so you can see my weird facial expressions and vague hand gestures as I explain things :D

That would be fun
 
I've been getting a lot of specific questions lately, both in the thread and via PM and email, I'm wondering if it may be a good time to do another live Q&A session. I did one a couple years ago and enjoyed it, and I planned for it to be more regular, but it never ended up happening again.

I don't mind questions in any form and am always happy to answer anything I can wherever it's asked, sometimes it just feels like I can answer better in person (or virtually in person) so you can see my weird facial expressions and vague hand gestures as I explain things :D
I enjoyed the Q&A and our phone conversation.
 
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Thanks...how did your Zoom pedals compare to your Sushi pedals?
The Zoom amp models are fair for getting the gist of a particular amp, but far from capturing the full performance. There are several generations with the current revisions being much more detailed with separate speaker sims. I would judge the older B3, MS are 50-60% there and the newer are 75% accurate but really lack in the tone stack and saturation characteristics where it most matters. Zoom uses the same 'tone stack' on all their amps, big mistake.
Sushi Box get closer to 100% to the preamp sound and most modellers are 90+%.

I still use my Zoom pedals for the sounds I have designed as well as modulation, delay, reverb, EQ and ZNR becuase they sound good enough, fast and ez to get the sounds I want and they are small.
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The Zoom amp models are fair for getting the gist of a particular amp, but far from capturing the full performance. There are several generations with the current revisions being much more detailed with separate speaker sims. I would judge the older B3, MS are 50-60% there and the newer are 75% accurate but really lack in the tone stack and saturation characteristics where it most matters. Zoom uses the same 'tone stack' on all their amps, big mistake.
Sushi Box get closer to 100% to the preamp sound and most modellers are 90+%.

I still use my Zoom pedals for the sounds I have designed as well as modulation, delay, reverb, EQ and ZNR becuase they sound good enough, fast and ez to get the sounds I want and they are small.
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Thanks for that...sounds like my choice of Sushi was a good one. Can't wait to try them!
 
Thanks for that...sounds like my choice of Sushi was a good one. Can't wait to try them!
You should have no buyers remorse, but beware @Sushi Box FX pedals are habit forming.

I started with a Particle Accelerator, Echosaurus, Underground Accelerator, Smoke Signal, Finally, HWUA, MORE, Slampegg Bee mini tube and my collection isn't much compared to many here. There are a couple in the works I will immediately purchase and we never know what Senor will come up with next.
 
You should have no buyers remorse, but beware @Sushi Box FX pedals are habit forming.

I started with a Particle Accelerator, Echosaurus, Underground Accelerator, Smoke Signal, Finally, HWUA, MORE, Slampegg Bee mini tube and my collection isn't much compared to many here. There are a couple in the works I will immediately purchase and we never know what Senor will come up with next.

Thanks for the warning. Currently, my needs are modest. An Ampeg and Fender vintage tube amp tone is what I am looking for. My PF20T does most of this for the studio but, I want to see (hear) what tube preamps can do for a Class D gigging amp. Things have come a long way since the '60s, as I am learning and appreciating.
 
Thanks for the warning. Currently, my needs are modest. An Ampeg and Fender vintage tube amp tone is what I am looking for. My PF20T does most of this for the studio but, I want to see (hear) what tube preamps can do for a Class D gigging amp. Things have come a long way since the '60s, as I am learning and appreciating.

My home studio with a Scarlett DI going into Reaper and quality plugins is simply amazing. I can see the day when there will be amps using plugins to create any sound you want. I say "Bring It On"!
 
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I already answered that earlier in this thread and in my post. The effects loop comes after the preamp which cannot be defeated in the 350. If you want the Slampegg as your tone, you need just a power amp to take the signal of the Slampegg pre. The tone stacks will be similar (but slightly different) between the 350 and Slampegg, so from that perspective it wouldn't make sense anyway. If you are just looking to "warm up" the 350's sound, you would need something like the Vampire Slayer (which is discontinued) in the effects loop to add some tube-y warmth before hitting the power stage.

@SoulReflection, This is actually exactly what you want for running pedals into the FX Return. Anything that you plug into the FX Return gets fed straight to the Master Volume, Limiter, and Power Amp on the PF350. The preamp is "defeated" in that you're plugging in to the amp after the preamp circuitry. Whether the Slampegg is suitable for this I cannot say, but I've heard the output is a tad low.

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@SoulReflection, This is actually exactly what you want for running pedals into the FX Return. Anything that you plug into the FX Return gets fed straight to the Master Volume, Limiter, and Power Amp on the PF350. The preamp is "defeated" in that you're plugging in to the amp after the preamp circuitry. Whether the Slampegg is suitable for this I cannot say, but I've heard the output is a tad low.

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Thanks for that. Maybe the SCR-DI would increase the output? It seems to do that for everything else...
 
Thanks for the warning. Currently, my needs are modest. An Ampeg and Fender vintage tube amp tone is what I am looking for. My PF20T does most of this for the studio but, I want to see (hear) what tube preamps can do for a Class D gigging amp. Things have come a long way since the '60s, as I am learning and appreciating.
We are close in age so I understand, I just missed playing bass in the 60's, I was still playing cello and guitar. I fondly recall all those long forgotten amps like Standel that were once mainstays. In Texas Fender was king of amps or Marshall for Rock, Ampeg never got a foothold - they were not carried at the main Ray Hennig's Heart of Texas Music chain. It was Fender, Marshall, Peavey, Standel, Randall and Gibson for the most part.
 
Thanks for that. Maybe the SCR-DI would increase the output? It seems to do that for everything else...
FWIW, I do this quite often with my Aguilar TH500. I'll run an external preamp (either a tube preamp, or my pedalboard, or whatever) into the FX Return, which bypasses the whole front end of the amp and goes straight into the poweramp. It's a great way to make the most of the equipment you have available, rather than having to buy different amps for every flavour of the week. Plus, if anything ever happens on a gig , you can just unplug the preamp and plug into the regular Input on your amp as an instant backup.

One thing you can't do with this method, however, is easily switch between your external preamp and the amp preamp. Once you're plugged in to the FX Return, you'd have to unplug that and plug in to the front if you want to switch. So this method doesn't really work as a "Second Channel" effect or anything like that. It's all or nothing.
 
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Thanks for that. Maybe the SCR-DI would increase the output? It seems to do that for everything else...
The SCR-DI would also impart it's own addition to the tone, so consider that. If you need more output but want the pure @Sushi Box FX sound then consider a transparent boost like the TC Spark Mini but not all boost pedals are transparent, many have their own characteristic sound that some find desirable.
 
We are close in age so I understand, I just missed playing bass in the 60's, I was still playing cello and guitar. I fondly recall all those long forgotten amps like Standel that were once mainstays. In Texas Fender was king of amps or Marshall for Rock, Ampeg never got a foothold - they were not carried at the main Ray Hennig's Heart of Texas Music chain. It was Fender, Marshall, Peavey, Standel, Randall and Gibson for the most part.

Yes, Standel came about a little after my introduction to bass but, my best amp was a Dynaco 60w tube amp. It was used by Sunn until they could make their own and was cheaper. That, plus my custom made 2-15 D-140 Fs were a match made in heaven.

It is interesting to read the history of recording studios back then. Some used their own custom-made DI's, while others supposedly used Ampeg B-15's. It was a great time and many of those manufacturers you mentioned got their start at that time.
 
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FWIW, I do this quite often with my Aguilar TH500. I'll run an external preamp (either a tube preamp, or my pedalboard, or whatever) into the FX Return, which bypasses the whole front end of the amp and goes straight into the poweramp. It's a great way to make the most of the equipment you have available, rather than having to buy different amps for every flavour of the week. Plus, if anything ever happens on a gig , you can just unplug the preamp and plug into the regular Input on your amp as an instant backup.

One thing you can't do with this method, however, is easily switch between your external preamp and the amp preamp. Once you're plugged in to the FX Return, you'd have to unplug that and plug in to the front if you want to switch. So this method doesn't really work as a "Second Channel" effect or anything like that. It's all or nothing.

Actually you can with something like a Boss LS2. Your bass goes to the input of the LS2, and you connect the output to the effects return of your amp. The Loop A send goes to the input of your amp with the effects out going back to the Loop A return. Your pedal board would be connected to Loop B. Depending on where you have the mode set on the LS2, you can switch between the loops, run the loops in series or parallel, or pretty much any other way you can imagine.
 
First impressions of the new JC Emerald V2:

1. The most important part for me was/is, does it lose some low end like the original? The answer is no. V2, with the deep switch engaged, retains the low end I put into it. Now, it doesn’t add a bunch of lows like the Elementary/Dr Wattson is capable of, but it does retain all the lows my basses put into it.

2. The bright switch….I haven’t yet found a scenario where I’d use that, and it does add some noise. I do need to try it with the treble control at 0 to see how that sounds, but so far, for bass, I’m kinda unsure how useful it is.

3. There’s a lot of gain on tap. However, with the gain low, around 9 o’clock, I’m able to get that perfect, touch sensitive overdrive with V2 that I fell in love with with V1, but with an intact low end. Turn it up higher, and it does one hell of a Lemmy impersonation.

4. It’s quiet (without the bright switch on). Dead quiet. Running my chain like this: Bass>Shure Glxd16>Doc Lloyd PDR>SB More>SB HWSH>Empress Bass Comp>SB JCE V2>SB Finally, I have zero noise. It takes cranking the gain fairly high before it gets a little hum. This is a very very good thing.

5. Nathan, you might as well PM me the price….it’s not going back.

I’ll report more as I spend more time with it, but my first few hours playing through it are extremely favorable, and it’s seeming like it’s completely fixed the only issue I had with the original (lows).