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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society
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Sushi Box FX pedals are an addiction since there are such varied and exquisite offerings with new designs coming in pretty regularly. I love being able to genuinely tap into classic and unique tones for my various recordings. You may find yourself chasing a retired pedal from the archives as there are some special gems there that do pop up time to time, I have several that are among my most used.
A couple knob labels got cut off by the vent slots, I won't have the cabsim implemented until the v4.0 circuit boards, I don't have the XLR installed on this one, and I don't have covers installed over the LEDs yet, but you get the idea.
Excited to hear to the Venus X. I think it’ll introduce a cool, new modern flavor to the line up. The magic of tubes but with a punch you just won’t get in other preamps.
Assuming my assumptions are correct haha.
Assuming my assumptions are correct haha.
Now that looks an exceptional pedal. Bravo!
@Sushi Box FX : I think that it is entirely possible that this DI / Cab Sim / Tube Preamp will shine a broader spotlight on your business. Please proceed with caution, as your current reputation is very strong, but the market can be vicious! And be very sure about your Cab Sim implementation and management (make sure it can be turned off). The example that comes to my mind is the Two Notes Revolt Bass Tube Amp... I TOTALLY wanted one, until I heard it. However, it doesn't seem to do any one thing extremely well (whereas their guitar Revolt seems to please people), and even the die-hard fanboy reviewers are having a hard time saying that it's a must-have pedal for bass. There are a lot of preamp pedal options, but nothing amazing and affordable with tubes (like Kingsley, but specifically for bass). That is why, for now, I am using the new Genzler Magellan Pre, a Two Notes Cab M, and (soon) the Sushi Box More (as soon as I can get home to pick up my order that has been delivered). If your new pedal was shipping today, that's what I would have gotten. Lastly, when you release it, may I humbly suggest that you prepare sound samples at the same time? We're here to support you!!
I really love the different colored knobs, but I think it could be improved. What if, just maybe, you consider using a special paint for the indicator line on each knob with a special color, and, what if that special color were phosphorescent? Taking this one step further, what if the label (control) for each knob were phosphorescent also? Then we could see the label for each knob and it's setting in the dark. Just a thought.
I'll just leave this right here:
https://www.amazon.com/glow-in-the-...ds=phosphorescent+paint&qid=1679573687&sr=8-5
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Duly noted, thanks
I'm certainly aware that releasing something of this level with these features and backed by someone like @TonyP- will bring some attention that I'm not used to having, which is part of why I'm really taking my time on the development. Going through 4 circuit board revisions before release is very uncommon for me, but in talking to Tony we agree that the goal here isn't just another good preamp, it's a high-end product that will compete with other high-end preamps in a way that my current lineup doesn't really, so we agree that it's not worth releasing until it's perfect. Based on our first discussion I planned to have it ready for Christmas 2021, which slipped into NAMM 2022, which slipped into Christmas 2022, and now NAMM 2023. A lot of time and resources have gone into the R&D for this, and I'm very proud of where it's at, so when it's finally ready for release I'm optimistic that its quality will speak for itself.The Cab Sim section is designed to be a simple, no-frills "just sounds good" option for those that are playing direct to FOH or recording. The hole on the enclosure for the Cab Sim will only be a toggle switch with the express purpose of turning the Cab Sim on and off. If you like it keep it on, if you don't turn it off. It's a feature that was added to make it more useful, but certainly wasn't intended to be the main selling point.
The goal was an excellent, flexible, punchy sounding modern tube preamp with a great sounding D.I. (made possible, as always, by Lightning Boy's fabulous D.I. transformers) and a switchable boost channel for those that want a little hair. The Cab Sim was almost an afterthought, something @TonyP- said "hey could we make this happen?" Obviously I wouldn't be including it if I didn't think it sounded good, and I'm proud of how it turned out, but it's about $15 worth of components that was tacked on only after everything else in the pedal was considered to be as close to perfect as possible.
With regards to sounds samples/demos at release, I'm going to be relying heavily on @TonyP- for that as I'm a hack of a player (especially compared to him!), and we plan to have professional demos made to thoroughly showcase the sounds and features of Venus X. The intention is to have everything 100% ironed out and have a fully working and demonstratable product for NAMM next month, then a couple "early access" units will go out to a couple people for demos and reviews while I work out the logistics of getting set up for "mass production" (I have to put that in quotes because for Sushi Box that means 30-50 units at a time, not thousands). So when it's finally available for order and I have units in hand ready to go, I expect to have some professional demos so people know what they're signing up for.
This reply got a little long-winded, but I'm really excited about this pedal
That would be super cool, but unfortunately that would be high-detail hand painting, and that sort of thing is not my specialty. I generally end up getting machines to do everything my hands aren't very good at, but that would be a tricky thing to automate. I've actually seen a couple people do this to the knobs on their own units, but it's not something I ever plan to offer myself.
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- Aug 21, 2003
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Duly noted, thanks
The Cab Sim section is designed to be a simple, no-frills "just sounds good" option for those that are playing direct to FOH or recording. The hole on the enclosure for the Cab Sim will only be a toggle switch with the express purpose of turning the Cab Sim on and off. If you like it keep it on, if you don't turn it off. It's a feature that was added to make it more useful, but certainly wasn't intended to be the main selling point.
The goal was an excellent, flexible, punchy sounding modern tube preamp with a great sounding D.I. (made possible, as always, by Lightning Boy's fabulous D.I. transformers) and a switchable boost channel for those that want a little hair. The Cab Sim was almost an afterthought, something @TonyP- said "hey could we make this happen?" Obviously I wouldn't be including it if I didn't think it sounded good, and I'm proud of how it turned out, but it's about $15 worth of components that was tacked on only after everything else in the pedal was considered to be as close to perfect as possible.
With regards to sounds samples/demos at release, I'm going to be relying heavily on @TonyP- for that as I'm a hack of a player (especially compared to him!), and we plan to have professional demos made to thoroughly showcase the sounds and features of Venus X. The intention is to have everything 100% ironed out and have a fully working and demonstratable product for NAMM next month, then a couple "early access" units will go out to a couple people for demos and reviews while I work out the logistics of getting set up for "mass production" (I have to put that in quotes because for Sushi Box that means 30-50 units at a time, not thousands). So when it's finally available for order and I have units in hand ready to go, I expect to have some professional demos so people know what they're signing up for.
This reply got a little long-winded, but I'm really excited about this pedal
That would be super cool, but unfortunately that would be high-detail hand painting, and that sort of thing is not my specialty. I generally end up getting machines to do everything my hands aren't very good at, but that would be a tricky thing to automate. I've actually seen a couple people do this to the knobs on their own units, but it's not something I ever plan to offer myself.
I just want to add and I apologize if I sound like a broken record with some of this.
I say this with humility and not any arrogance (I mean that), there is a reason why we are at version 3.2 now and not just coming up with an idea and putting in a box. To be honest, part of me does not care how long it takes because it has to be right, not just for me but for all of you out there.
I'm one of the first and only bassist that is an artist for A-designs audio the creator of the industry standard the REDDI. Tsunami Cables is coming out with the V-15 and I could use that if I wanted to...So believe me I'm putting the Venus up against the 'Big Boys' and that is why we have gone back and forth. I literally have many options and I chose Sushi Box FX.
Based on this price point vs the tonal capabilities this will 'be it' for that "pseudo modern tone" with a tube flavor.
I will be honest, Sushi Box / Nathan was not the first person I was started working with on this concept, BUT He was the one that actually started producing the correct results.
Tight 'active' punchy tone (this is key), enough output, high end transformer based DI and in analog easy to use format. It astounds me some of the new stuff that does not have a pass though like even the new Berg pre...Well this does, Venus X is meant for the live guy who wants studio quality in a pedal format.
Honesty why buy a Noble when this is coming out?
I need to have a "Amp in a box" that I can mount on a pedal board and take on a plane.
The Venus X will be that solution.
Nathan is Jim Marshall to my Pete Townsend...Well sorta, you get the picture
Cheers
Duly noted, thanks
The Cab Sim section is designed to be a simple, no-frills "just sounds good" option for those that are playing direct to FOH or recording. The hole on the enclosure for the Cab Sim will only be a toggle switch with the express purpose of turning the Cab Sim on and off. If you like it keep it on, if you don't turn it off. It's a feature that was added to make it more useful, but certainly wasn't intended to be the main selling point.
The goal was an excellent, flexible, punchy sounding modern tube preamp with a great sounding D.I. (made possible, as always, by Lightning Boy's fabulous D.I. transformers) and a switchable boost channel for those that want a little hair. The Cab Sim was almost an afterthought, something @TonyP- said "hey could we make this happen?" Obviously I wouldn't be including it if I didn't think it sounded good, and I'm proud of how it turned out, but it's about $15 worth of components that was tacked on only after everything else in the pedal was considered to be as close to perfect as possible.
With regards to sounds samples/demos at release, I'm going to be relying heavily on @TonyP- for that as I'm a hack of a player (especially compared to him!), and we plan to have professional demos made to thoroughly showcase the sounds and features of Venus X. The intention is to have everything 100% ironed out and have a fully working and demonstratable product for NAMM next month, then a couple "early access" units will go out to a couple people for demos and reviews while I work out the logistics of getting set up for "mass production" (I have to put that in quotes because for Sushi Box that means 30-50 units at a time, not thousands). So when it's finally available for order and I have units in hand ready to go, I expect to have some professional demos so people know what they're signing up for.
This reply got a little long-winded, but I'm really excited about this pedal
That would be super cool, but unfortunately that would be high-detail hand painting, and that sort of thing is not my specialty. I generally end up getting machines to do everything my hands aren't very good at, but that would be a tricky thing to automate. I've actually seen a couple people do this to the knobs on their own units, but it's not something I ever plan to offer myself.
Understood.
Hi fellow SB FXers! Excited to be using a new compact powerbank/Cioks4 -powered setup doing a run of gigs with an Irish band for Paddy's Day. Insane power from boosting the level of MORE! a little more hehe
Thinking to order some more Sushi goodness.
Two quick question re. those of you lucky enough to have UA and Slampegg.
1. How are the differences between the two?
2. Are the Bass and Treble controls on the Slampegg both boost AND cut?
(I was reading around that UA is kinda like the Orange ad200b...so Bass and treble would be only boost, right?)
Thanks so much for any help you all can provide!!
The only real correct answer is....you need both! They are that different.
I just want to add and I apologize if I sound like a broken record with some of this.
I say this with humility and not any arrogance (I mean that), there is a reason why we are at version 3.2 now and not just coming up with an idea and putting in a box. To be honest, part of me does not care how long it takes because it has to be right, not just for me but for all of you out there.
I'm one of the first and only bassist that is an artist for A-designs audio the creator of the industry standard the REDDI. Tsunami Cables is coming out with the V-15 and I could use that if I wanted to...So believe me I'm putting the Venus up against the 'Big Boys' and that is why we have gone back and forth. I literally have many options and I chose Sushi Box FX.
Based on this price point vs the tonal capabilities this will 'be it' for that "pseudo modern tone" with a tube flavor.
I will be honest, Sushi Box / Nathan was not the first person I was started working with on this concept, BUT He was the one that actually started producing the correct results.
Tight 'active' punchy tone (this is key), enough output, high end transformer based DI and in analog easy to use format. It astounds me some of the new stuff that does not have a pass though like even the new Berg pre...Well this does, Venus X is meant for the live guy who wants studio quality in a pedal format.
Honesty why buy a Noble when this is coming out?
I need to have a "Amp in a box" that I can mount on a pedal board and take on a plane.
The Venus X will be that solution.
Nathan is Jim Marshall to my Pete Townsend...Well sorta, you get the picture
Cheers
If it could only:
- get this pedal's punch to hit me in the chest (my amp does this).
- Shake my pants legs in the punch-of-air coming from the speaker ports (front ported cabs).
An amp in a box is an impossible task, but I wish you well, because, well, THIS is what we all want, isn't it?
Seriously, this sounds like a game changing pedal.
@TonyP- it appears that you stole the requirements from my dream list.
The last thing I want in my signal chain is a quality DI with tone sculpting capabilities. Everything else can sit earlier in the signal chain, but I really want good EQ capability at the end, right before sending to FoH. The Tone Hammer DI pedal I use today provides this with bass, treble, and mid with a mid frequency sweep control. This provides me with precise mid control. I guess I should mention that I am a jazz bass player, so that low-mid punch is part of my *golden* tone. How well the active EQ on the Venus X will work for me will depend on the frequencies chosen. A sweep-able mid would be better for me (not all of my basses are jazz style). My main bass is an Adam Nitti anb205 and, one of, my backup basses is an Ernie Ball StingRay-5. I only play 5 string bases these days. Enough about me.
I really like your intention of this being designed for live environments.
The only thing I don't see in the pic of the pedal above that would be a requirement for me is a ground lift.
I was disappointed with the Revolt but then i wasn't that keen on the Le Bass, i flipped it pretty quick. It goes to show that no matter how mnay sound clips are out there it's not until you play through it
On of the best sounding pre-amps I currently own is the Ampeg classic pre, and whilst the Ampeg SCR-DI is good, i feel Ampeg are missing a massive trick my not making this a tube DI and ditching the awful scrambler circuit.
I didn't have long enough to play with classic and my space heater before everything had to go into storage at short notice. (currently playing one of those Blackstar headphone amps, the vintage channel is very decent) but picking up some bass gear after easter and really want to see how the Classic, my SBVT and Space heater play together.
I'll add a More to the mix and when the Sushi chef gets some time and develops the fire box i think i'll know what my rig will be and the PF50T can remain as just a studio amp.
Ground lift is internally configurable with a DIP switch. It's in there, just not on top of the pedal.
Internal only? That would really limit the flexibility of this being a gig pedal. I guess if you play the same venue it would be ok, but some form of external button/switch would be more convenient.
I would vote for placing it right beside the XLR jack, assuming there's room.
That's the tricky part, there really isn't. I tried to keep the face of the pedal nicely spaced (a request from Tony, there should be ample room between controls for easy access) but the internals are jam packed. This is the most complicated preamp I've ever built and there's a LOT going on internally. I absolutely see the point of an externally accessible ground lift switch for the XLR and I'm going to continue playing with it to see if I can squeeze it in somewhere, but the internal switch was a last ditch "better than nothing" option I put in.
Since this thread is on an unsolicited advice roll, I’m going to contribute. How about placing the internal DIP switch near the side or the bottom panel, and just leaving a little access hole to reach in and tweak it.
- Aug 21, 2003
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- A-Designs Mike Lull GK Tsunami Cables GHS Strings RMI Basswitch Nordstrand Pickups Darkglass
I appreciate it Mr. M...I'm glad you dig the specs.
I'm mean...He we are still up to the whims on what we get for backline if we travel without our amps...Physics alone we need speakers or at least In-Ears.
I still even with In-Ears want something behind me pushing air....I get it. But I want to make sure that "amp in the box" that I'm going to send through the effects return is a amp sound I love...So I can by pass that Ampeg, Hartke or whatever it is, if I don't end up getting a GK.
I appreciate it Mr. M...I'm glad you dig the specs.
I'm mean...He we are still up to the whims on what we get for backline if we travel without our amps...Physics alone we need speakers or at least In-Ears.
But I want to make sure that "amp in the box" that I'm going to send through the effects return is a amp sound I love...So I can by pass that Ampeg, Hartke or whatever it is, if I don't end up getting a GK.
Well, I can definitely appreciate that. I know this is going to hurt a bit, but I would likely pass on the Ampeg and the Harke. I've not had the pleasure of playing through a GK. I played through Eden for many years (still have a World Tour 800), but these days it's all Aguilar for me. But, I respect everyone's choice.
I can't wait to hear what you and the Sushi Chef have cooked up for us. Wait, that's not right. Let me try that again. I can't wait to taste the raw flavors you have rolled up in this little box.
Is the CabSim only on the XLR, or on the XLR and the 1/4" Out? I assume Dry is parallel off the input, no EQ/boost/etc. Is that right?
Cabsim is on both the 1/4" and the XLR output. I know it would be cool to do fancy routing so you could have it on one and not the other, but this wasn't set up for that and that would add another layer of complication.
Dry is parallel off the input, no EQ/boost/etc.
Thanks for confirming! Fancy routing would be fancy, but I understand the added complication. Probably why the vast majority of preamp/di pedals do it the same way.
- Aug 21, 2003
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- 18,641
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- A-Designs Mike Lull GK Tsunami Cables GHS Strings RMI Basswitch Nordstrand Pickups Darkglass
Eden gear is great stuff and we hope to have that little box soon
Got a preliminary 10 minutes on the UA comparing to the slampegg. So far, exactly as was said. Different flavors of awesome. Without tweaking, the slampegg still sounds best through my like BA10-2 cab. I’ll put them through thorough testing though.
Question, I know lots has been said already about the draw of the pedals, I have one 500mah output and a few 200mah. I plugged one into the 500 for a couple minutes, and then put it on the 200 and moved the 500 to the other pedal. They worked, but is there any difference to doing it this way? Is the sound different at 200 after warmup?
Question, I know lots has been said already about the draw of the pedals, I have one 500mah output and a few 200mah. I plugged one into the 500 for a couple minutes, and then put it on the 200 and moved the 500 to the other pedal. They worked, but is there any difference to doing it this way? Is the sound different at 200 after warmup?
Glad you are diggin the different flavors of awesome tone.
Powering a single tube SB pedal with 200mah should make no difference in sound but it will take a little longer to warm up.
