The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

[Hasty]

Bass guitars don't need compression.
Bass players do..

I like the idea of compressors... and sometimes they're great. But sometimes I forget to turn it on and don't notice a difference like I did when I was a younger player. Maybe my fingers have finally acclimated? My OvniFX Smoothie has mostly become an expensive clean boost as time passes.

I do however feel like I get more expression out of a nice tube on the verge of getting thick... but that's more related to musicality than compression I think.

 

[BaltBass5]

Bass guitars don't need compression.
Bass players do..

If you’re using IEM’s Compression is MAGIC!

 

[TonyP-]

I mean there's no reason you couldn't, there are plenty that do, but it isn't a requirement to use a compressor in order to make More sound good. I personally don't, but it's all about your taste.

The right compression tastes like dark roast coffee and flan being spoon fed to you be a Mexican cougar.

 

[mrperkolator]

The right compression tastes like dark roast coffee and flan being spoon fed to you be a Mexican cougar.

Do you write tone descriptions for nordstrand? lol. I like it though

 

[bassbrad]

The right compression tastes like dark roast coffee and flan being spoon fed to you be a Mexican cougar.

Naughty naughty, but I like it!

 

[bassbrad]

Hi,
Should I be using a compression pedal with my Sushi Box MORE?

Anything you need to get your bass sound, the MORE will bring it all together.

 

[VegasGutPlucker]

I have a MORE last in my chain, and I recently experimented (in practice, not in rehearsal or gig yet) with a clone of the Cornish OC-1. I've never played with compression before. At first I was underwhelmed. But as I kept going, higher up the neck, down low, string crossings, turning knobs, etc., I started to get it. Having a blend knob seemed quite crucial to my enjoyment of the device though, and I don't know how common those are in compression pedals, let alone how it's configured on the OC-1. For fun I toggled the MORE while I was playing. Yeah, if you like what MORE does for your sound, a compressor won't change that for the worse unless you 'don't like/don't know how to set' compression. The MORE will only improve it IMO.

 

[PotsdamBass8]

I have a confession:

I’ve been using the UA for the last few weeks at home (haven’t had a practice or gig in that time), and have really liked what I’ve heard. I settled on a nice setting with just a little hint of growl, the kind that you’d only really notice playing it solo but would sound just clean in the mix. I was really liking the fatness, and got a very sweet subtle compression. Then reading these threads, I noticed the comments about the bypass switch making the pedal so much louder, and how quiet it is in comparison through the tone stack. Huh. That’s weird, mine is the opposite, the bypass sounds much quieter than with the tone stack.

So I went back and checked it out a little more, and boy oh boy I’ve been playing with the tone stack bypassed. And really preferring that sound. This means two things:

1) the tube gain stage alone really does a lot to the sound
2) I have been turning knobs that had zero effect on the sound (when it was bypassed) and had NO IDEA. Seriously, I distinctly remember dialing in just the perfect amount of treble and bass to get the tone where I wanted it. I feel dumb.

 

[DumDrummer]

I have a confession:

I’ve been using the UA for the last few weeks at home (haven’t had a practice or gig in that time), and have really liked what I’ve heard. I settled on a nice setting with just a little hint of growl, the kind that you’d only really notice playing it solo but would sound just clean in the mix. I was really liking the fatness, and got a very sweet subtle compression. Then reading these threads, I noticed the comments about the bypass switch making the pedal so much louder, and how quiet it is in comparison through the tone stack. Huh. That’s weird, mine is the opposite, the bypass sounds much quieter than with the tone stack.

So I went back and checked it out a little more, and boy oh boy I’ve been playing with the tone stack bypassed. And really preferring that sound. This means two things:

1) the tube gain stage alone really does a lot to the sound
2) I have been turning knobs that had zero effect on the sound (when it was bypassed) and had NO IDEA. Seriously, I distinctly remember dialing in just the perfect amount of treble and bass to get the tone where I wanted it. I feel dumb.

In fairness to you, the tone stack isn't all that drastic in the mid and treble frequencies, IME. The biggest change in output definitely comes from flipping the EQ on and off.

 

[letsgethandsome]

I have a confession:

I’ve been using the UA for the last few weeks at home (haven’t had a practice or gig in that time), and have really liked what I’ve heard. I settled on a nice setting with just a little hint of growl, the kind that you’d only really notice playing it solo but would sound just clean in the mix. I was really liking the fatness, and got a very sweet subtle compression. Then reading these threads, I noticed the comments about the bypass switch making the pedal so much louder, and how quiet it is in comparison through the tone stack. Huh. That’s weird, mine is the opposite, the bypass sounds much quieter than with the tone stack.

So I went back and checked it out a little more, and boy oh boy I’ve been playing with the tone stack bypassed. And really preferring that sound. This means two things:

1) the tube gain stage alone really does a lot to the sound
2) I have been turning knobs that had zero effect on the sound (when it was bypassed) and had NO IDEA. Seriously, I distinctly remember dialing in just the perfect amount of treble and bass to get the tone where I wanted it. I feel dumb.

That is hilarious… And in fairness, I don’t think there’s a single musician that’s not done that at some point in some fashion or another. Dialing in a knob that isn’t hooked up to anything, or on a different channel, or on a device that is bypassed or not in the signal chain… And found ourselves very happy with the results. happens to the best of us!

 

[bassbrad]

I have a confession:

I’ve been using the UA for the last few weeks at home (haven’t had a practice or gig in that time), and have really liked what I’ve heard. I settled on a nice setting with just a little hint of growl, the kind that you’d only really notice playing it solo but would sound just clean in the mix. I was really liking the fatness, and got a very sweet subtle compression. Then reading these threads, I noticed the comments about the bypass switch making the pedal so much louder, and how quiet it is in comparison through the tone stack. Huh. That’s weird, mine is the opposite, the bypass sounds much quieter than with the tone stack.

So I went back and checked it out a little more, and boy oh boy I’ve been playing with the tone stack bypassed. And really preferring that sound. This means two things:

1) the tube gain stage alone really does a lot to the sound
2) I have been turning knobs that had zero effect on the sound (when it was bypassed) and had NO IDEA. Seriously, I distinctly remember dialing in just the perfect amount of treble and bass to get the tone where I wanted it. I feel dumb.

Learning from our own mistakes is what smart people do, there ought be no shame in that.

 

[lomo]

So I went back and checked it out a little more, and boy oh boy I’ve been playing with the tone stack bypassed. And really preferring that sound. This means two things:

1) the tube gain stage alone really does a lot to the sound
2) I have been turning knobs that had zero effect on the sound (when it was bypassed) and had NO IDEA. Seriously, I distinctly remember dialing in just the perfect amount of treble and bass to get the tone where I wanted it. I feel dumb.

You are not dumb; you are ....human......subject to psychoacoustics like all the rest of us....and yeah, that tube stage alone is the magic

 

[jmmyoh]

I have a confession:

I’ve been using the UA for the last few weeks at home (haven’t had a practice or gig in that time), and have really liked what I’ve heard. I settled on a nice setting with just a little hint of growl, the kind that you’d only really notice playing it solo but would sound just clean in the mix. I was really liking the fatness, and got a very sweet subtle compression. Then reading these threads, I noticed the comments about the bypass switch making the pedal so much louder, and how quiet it is in comparison through the tone stack. Huh. That’s weird, mine is the opposite, the bypass sounds much quieter than with the tone stack.

So I went back and checked it out a little more, and boy oh boy I’ve been playing with the tone stack bypassed. And really preferring that sound. This means two things:

1) the tube gain stage alone really does a lot to the sound
2) I have been turning knobs that had zero effect on the sound (when it was bypassed) and had NO IDEA. Seriously, I distinctly remember dialing in just the perfect amount of treble and bass to get the tone where I wanted it. I feel dumb.

I'm curious if you tried those "perfect settings " with the tone stack on since the discovery, maybe it sounds great!?
I did the same thing with my sunnday drive, I only had the boost engaged while tinkering with the preamp knobs like "wow I like it with way more bass today then yesterday"
Haha. When I engaged the preamp I did not like those settings.

 

[TonyP-]

Do you write tone descriptions for nordstrand? lol. I like it though

I think Sonia over there needs to start having me do that
I just saw those beautiful people this weekend to...Damn it.

 

[Mayo Fan]

I have a confession:

I’ve been using the UA for the last few weeks at home (haven’t had a practice or gig in that time), and have really liked what I’ve heard. I settled on a nice setting with just a little hint of growl, the kind that you’d only really notice playing it solo but would sound just clean in the mix. I was really liking the fatness, and got a very sweet subtle compression. Then reading these threads, I noticed the comments about the bypass switch making the pedal so much louder, and how quiet it is in comparison through the tone stack. Huh. That’s weird, mine is the opposite, the bypass sounds much quieter than with the tone stack.

So I went back and checked it out a little more, and boy oh boy I’ve been playing with the tone stack bypassed. And really preferring that sound. This means two things:

1) the tube gain stage alone really does a lot to the sound
2) I have been turning knobs that had zero effect on the sound (when it was bypassed) and had NO IDEA. Seriously, I distinctly remember dialing in just the perfect amount of treble and bass to get the tone where I wanted it. I feel dumb.

Back when I used to do some FOH mixing for local bands, I reserved one channel on the desk for people complaining they couldn't hear X or Y. If I agreed with their comment, I actually changed it. If not, I turned up the fader on the empty channel and gave them a thumbs up. They really do think it sounds better. Everybody experiences this.

 

[jbybj]

Back when I used to do some FOH mixing for local bands, I reserved one channel on the desk for people complaining they couldn't hear X or Y. If I agreed with their comment, I actually changed it. If not, I turned up the fader on the empty channel and gave them a thumbs up. They really do think it sounds better. Everybody experiences this.

The placebo effect is real.

 

[_Tay_]

I have a confession:

I’ve been using the UA for the last few weeks at home (haven’t had a practice or gig in that time), and have really liked what I’ve heard. I settled on a nice setting with just a little hint of growl, the kind that you’d only really notice playing it solo but would sound just clean in the mix. I was really liking the fatness, and got a very sweet subtle compression. Then reading these threads, I noticed the comments about the bypass switch making the pedal so much louder, and how quiet it is in comparison through the tone stack. Huh. That’s weird, mine is the opposite, the bypass sounds much quieter than with the tone stack.

So I went back and checked it out a little more, and boy oh boy I’ve been playing with the tone stack bypassed. And really preferring that sound. This means two things:

1) the tube gain stage alone really does a lot to the sound
2) I have been turning knobs that had zero effect on the sound (when it was bypassed) and had NO IDEA. Seriously, I distinctly remember dialing in just the perfect amount of treble and bass to get the tone where I wanted it. I feel dumb.

I believe bypassing the tone stack makes this work just like the Space Heater. Love my Space Heater! Space Heater, DA Bloop/Jive, More is currently a heavenly combination for me and really happy with the tone. Have thought about the UA and your post has helped me. Think i'm fine (for now) with the SH.

 

[Zbysek]

I have a confession:

I’ve been using the UA for the last few weeks at home (haven’t had a practice or gig in that time), and have really liked what I’ve heard. I settled on a nice setting with just a little hint of growl, the kind that you’d only really notice playing it solo but would sound just clean in the mix. I was really liking the fatness, and got a very sweet subtle compression. Then reading these threads, I noticed the comments about the bypass switch making the pedal so much louder, and how quiet it is in comparison through the tone stack. Huh. That’s weird, mine is the opposite, the bypass sounds much quieter than with the tone stack.

So I went back and checked it out a little more, and boy oh boy I’ve been playing with the tone stack bypassed. And really preferring that sound. This means two things:

1) the tube gain stage alone really does a lot to the sound
2) I have been turning knobs that had zero effect on the sound (when it was bypassed) and had NO IDEA. Seriously, I distinctly remember dialing in just the perfect amount of treble and bass to get the tone where I wanted it. I feel dumb.

 

[Zbysek]

Think i'm fine (for now) with the SH.

Same here. I chose the Space Heater because of the lack of tone stack...

 

[HueyFreeman]

The right compression tastes like dark roast coffee and flan being spoon fed to you be a Mexican cougar.

As it stands, this is the best TB post of the year. I might have to add this to my signature, with @TonyP- permission of course.