It's a theoretical EQ in a vacuum, it doesn't sound
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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society
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Since it doesn’t exist, the EQ frequency points are inconsequential.It's a theoretical EQ in a vacuum, it doesn't sound
Exactly, just an academic exercise regarding a theoretical EQ that doesn't exist
...but might exist in a month or so
I can neither confirm nor deny the existence, present or future, of "Vapor X."Ah, the Vapor X, right?
The treble and bass controls are shelving filters whereas the lo-mids and hi-mids are peaking filters, so it makes more sense to call out the center frequencies of the mids and not the treble and bass.If you want to go bonkers, a low eq with switchable 40/90 Hz and treble eq with switchable 4kHz/10kHz (frequencies tbd) might make some folks drool even more. But that might make the user interface a bit of a puzzle
Again, all purely academic with no direct relation to *anything.
* "anything" in this case referring to "anything I'm ready to discuss at the present time"
Those frequencies are fine, will it be shelving or bell type and how many +/- db?
Let those companies with design and development departments do your Bonkers,If you want to go bonkers, a low eq with switchable 40/90 Hz and treble eq with switchable 4kHz/10kHz (frequencies tbd) might make some folks drool even more. But that might make the user interface a bit of a puzzle
Please keep in mind that @Sushi Box FX is a one amazing man company,
bringing us Amazing devices to sweeten our tone.
Yes.
But would LOVE something starting a bit more around 600Hz for the hi mids.
This conversation reminds me of my recent haircut encounters. Walk into any hair cutting chain in Los Angeles, and I’ll get asked by the stylist, “razor or scissors? And if razor, you want a two, three, or a four?” To which I reply, how the fvk do I know. I come to you for your professional expertise, all I want is for you to make me beautiful. How you achieve that is up to you.
So to you Nathan, I say, make my tone beautiful, how you achieve that is up to you. I count on your expertise. While I can easily choose a preference in a real world comparison, I lack the perspective to choose a theoretical preference. That’s why I give you money.
So to you Nathan, I say, make my tone beautiful, how you achieve that is up to you. I count on your expertise. While I can easily choose a preference in a real world comparison, I lack the perspective to choose a theoretical preference. That’s why I give you money.
Treble and Bass are shelving, hi-mids and lo-mids are peaking/bell. All controls are boost/cut so with everything at noon response will be flat. Range of level for mids controls is about +15dB/-25dB (I think).
I can work with that
And at the end of the day you're all going to get what I think sounds good. I try to get input from the masses as I'm not a gigging bassist, but it's not really a democracy, you're not voting for what I'm going to do, I'm asking advice which I will always consider, but at the end of the day I'll be making the final say. It's definitely helpful to make sure I'm in the right ballpark before doing so though, which is really what I'm going for here. Looking around at other things those seem like reasonable numbers to me, but I'm not in a position to sit down and play it as it is currently just vaporware, so I guess I was just looking for a sanity check on the numbers I came up with, and I think I pretty well got it
Vapor X (not actual title) is already up to 9 knobs and 4 toggle switches and it's not even real. Someone may have to tell me to stop.
You can’t stop now. I didn’t see any mention of buttons.
Stop.
Kidding aside, 9 knobs can feel like too much. I will say that I do like it when pedal manufacturers make some of the switches smaller, others larger, based on what is used the most. 9 knobs sounds like a bunch, unless you are creative with the layout and make it feel like 6. Just some thoughts. Clearly you get it though.
I say go for it there are plenty of options for guys wanting less knobs I like having more options
Stop.
Kidding aside, 9 knobs can feel like too much. I will say that I do like it when pedal manufacturers make some of the switches smaller, others larger, based on what is used the most. 9 knobs sounds like a bunch, unless you are creative with the layout and make it feel like 6. Just some thoughts. Clearly you get it though.
Definitely a “it depends” situation.
If we’re talking about a 4 band EQ, level, and gain… then we’re already at 6 knobs. If there’s two channels then easily 8 knobs. Add a blend option or whatever, then there are 9 knobs that are probably useful. Fortunately I’m not a knob terrier. When I find my spot I usually leave most of them alone. Just a few minor tweaks here and there. As long as it’s not a 125B enclosure then I’d be ok with that.
I'm in agreement with you guys. I like more knobs. I was merely mentioning layout matters. IF YOU KNOW that most players will move that knob once to their taste and leave it.... smaller knob. If you know that it will be adjusted frequently to each room because suddenly you're in a boomy and echo filled room... bigger knob. Just about every DI pedal out there has a pre/post switch, and almost all are small and on the side. That was kinda my point. Not a high use switch, but an important one. But since it's off to the side and smaller, it doesn't make the pedal feel busy.
So. Just hypothetically. Purely academic. If a pedal were to have like:
EQ section: Bass/Lo-Mids/Lo-Mids frequency/Hi-Mids/Hi-Mids Frequency/Treble
Filter Section: HPF On-Off/HPF Frequency/HPF Q/LPF On-Off/LPF Frequency/LPF Q
Does that feel like a bit much? I feel like I could find a good spot to fix both Q settings that could justify getting rid of those controls, but none of the others feel very optional.
EQ section: Bass/Lo-Mids/Lo-Mids frequency/Hi-Mids/Hi-Mids Frequency/Treble
Filter Section: HPF On-Off/HPF Frequency/HPF Q/LPF On-Off/LPF Frequency/LPF Q
Does that feel like a bit much? I feel like I could find a good spot to fix both Q settings that could justify getting rid of those controls, but none of the others feel very optional.
