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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

So. Just hypothetically. Purely academic. If a pedal were to have like:

EQ section: Bass/Lo-Mids/Lo-Mids frequency/Hi-Mids/Hi-Mids Frequency/Treble

Filter Section: HPF On-Off/HPF Frequency/HPF Q/LPF On-Off/LPF Frequency/LPF Q

Does that feel like a bit much? I feel like I could find a good spot to fix both Q settings that could justify getting rid of those controls, but none of the others feel very optional.
If the Q setting can go extreme enough that we can get a good resonant peak then I think it would be worth having.
 
I relish the ability to adjust the Q, especially if it boosts the resonant peak.
If the Q setting can go extreme enough that we can get a good resonant peak then I think it would be worth having.
Noted, Q controls for the filters will stay.

At some point the panel real estate transitions from pedal to rackmount or head :)
Yeah that's what I need to start looking at. It's going to be single channel and I've decided to make it always-on so there won't be any footswitches, but I need to make sure I can still keep enough space between the controls that fingers can get in to use them.

Seems like you could do at least one of these.
Fair enough. I categorically deny the existence of a pedal explicitly named Vapor X. The present or future existence of a preamp/pedal/tone-shaping device with the features described above may or may not be discussed at a later time.
 
As far as HPF and LPF, sometimes people like to put them in different parts of the pedal chain. Having then in the EQ pedal means everything (EQ/HPF/LPF) goes in one spot.
I think having order switches on the filters could be useful in the regard.
Having a simple Pre/Post EQ switch on each filter section would allow you to tailor it to your needs.

Just my humble opinion.
 
Yes, it could have an optional FX-loop so you can sandwich some part of your signal chain with filters and tubes :D I think people tend to use LPF at the end, and placing the pedal anywhere in the chain would allow one to choose where to have the HPF.
Input tube > HPF > loop with external pedals > EQ (pre/post loop?) > LPF > output tube.
That sandwich thing would be similar to the GreenHou... Oh. :bag:

Also, I wanted to mention that there are mid frequencies that I tend to always want to boost (highs ~ 1.5kHz), and some that I tend to always want to cut (the muddy stuff in the low mids, ~300Hz or something) and I know certain preamps allow this feature of automatically changing the frequency center depending whether you're boosting or cutting (J.East Marcus Miller onboard pre for instance, boost @ 1.5kHz, cut @ 1kHz).
This is probably something that needs to be tweaked by ear, and might be something to be found on signature gear specifically, but who knows, might be worth checking if there is a tendency for certain frequency bands to be most often boosted or cut.
 
So, just theoretically, would this be somewhat similar to Broughton's
Resonant Filter Equalizer (but with tubes?)? (Note, I don't have one and are not really GASsing for Vapor X, just academically curious...)
Nope, that's intention seems to be just a tone shaper/equalizer with filters, this is a preamp that happens to have an EQ and filters.

At some point wouldn't it just be better to go with a full blown 3 band parametric?
No, because that's a lot harder to do with tubes.

Yes, it could have an optional FX-loop so you can sandwich some part of your signal chain with filters and tubes :D I think people tend to use LPF at the end, and placing the pedal anywhere in the chain would allow one to choose where to have the HPF.
Input tube > HPF > loop with external pedals > EQ (pre/post loop?) > LPF > output tube.
That sandwich thing would be similar to the GreenHou... Oh. :bag:
Yeah I have no interest in adding an FX loop. It's going to be packed enough as it is, and I especially don't want to add more features that would require adding more tubes.
 
So. Just hypothetically. Purely academic. If a pedal were to have like:

EQ section: Bass/Lo-Mids/Lo-Mids frequency/Hi-Mids/Hi-Mids Frequency/Treble

Filter Section: HPF On-Off/HPF Frequency/HPF Q/LPF On-Off/LPF Frequency/LPF Q

Does that feel like a bit much? I feel like I could find a good spot to fix both Q settings that could justify getting rid of those controls, but none of the others feel very optional.


Me trying to figure out the new Sushi preamp

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At some point the panel real estate transitions from pedal to rackmount or head :)
If something like that showed up in his store tomorrow, I’d probably sell or pawn something that same day and it would be in my shopping cart by nightfall.
In case anyone’s asking, I’m a size 1u shallow rack mount, but could squeeze in a 2u.
 
My lips are sealed, and furthermore you're unlikely to get any details out of me.

I’m sure if this was a real thing and not just some alleged rumor, it would do more to further the advancements in tube pedal innovation.

Real life Sushi in practice story for everyone. My new amp is a Mesa WD800. I haven’t had a tube in my amp in a while. My old Hartke had a preamp tube, but it never did any breakup well for me even when pushed. The other day I just ran my Prestige pedal with the boost at about 11:00, then my Submarine with a little extra boost, then through the Finally with gain just below 12:00 into the WD800. It had a really cool breakup going. It wasn’t quite all-tube pushed sounding like a SVT or Bassman, but dadgum it is was getting that feeling.
 
I’m sure if this was a real thing and not just some alleged rumor, it would do more to further the advancements in tube pedal innovation.

Real life Sushi in practice story for everyone. My new amp is a Mesa WD800. I haven’t had a tube in my amp in a while. My old Hartke had a preamp tube, but it never did any breakup well for me even when pushed. The other day I just ran my Prestige pedal with the boost at about 11:00, then my Submarine with a little extra boost, then through the Finally with gain just below 12:00 into the WD800. It had a really cool breakup going. It wasn’t quite all-tube pushed sounding like a SVT or Bassman, but dadgum it is was getting that feeling.
My WD responds well to some buffered boost in front. Try the gain around 2:00 and set to active for another flavor of great.

Playing with my UA and a compressor in front of a Mesa D-350 for the past week. I set the UA's internal trim to about 9:30 to achieve unity with Gain and Master at noon.