You better hide the location from me or I'll come buy it! 
I have been wanting one of those for awhile now.
I have been wanting one of those for awhile now.
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the TRACE ELLIOT thread
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If it looks like it has been taken care of and you like the signature "Trace" tone, oh yea, BUY IT!
The only listing I can find on the last known list price for that head was $3,249 US! I think ya found a deal, eh?
The only listing I can find on the last known list price for that head was $3,249 US! I think ya found a deal, eh?
I noticed it has two power amps. 4 ohms min load. does that mean I can run two 4 ohm cabs? in parallel from each "amp"
Each side of the amp will drive a 4 ohm minimum load, which is either one 4 ohm cab per side, or two 8 ohm cabinets (per side) wired in parallel.
PatL,
Yeah! I took it to rehearsal on Sunday. Two guitars, bass, drums. My rig is the V300H plus two small GenzBenz bins loaded w/EVM 15s.
Because I usually use the V6, I was able to really dial in a similar tone. In order to simulate the valve thing, I pulled the mid boost tone control, but did not rotate it (12 o'clock). That fattened up the tone. Bass and treble were 12 o'clock.
I have to admit that the 300H is truly great. It does miss that elusive tube "air" that surrounds each and every note. I've only heard that with valves. But this amp comes very, very close -- mostly, I'm sure, because of the v-type pre amp.
The amp has lots of power and headroom. The 280 watt rating is either very conservative or everyone else lies. Keep in mind that I have played through many well-regarded solid state amps, and in general, I just can't make 'em sing. But this amp seems to have great punch, clarity, and tube phat.
Considering that there are lots of bassists that spend the same money on **name of cheap-o solid state amp**, this amp is an amazing bargain. It's not made in China, either. True British quality and tone.
If I were a reader of TalkBass and a fan of Trace V-tone, I'd get one pronto. In fact I did!!!!
Yeah! I took it to rehearsal on Sunday. Two guitars, bass, drums. My rig is the V300H plus two small GenzBenz bins loaded w/EVM 15s.
Because I usually use the V6, I was able to really dial in a similar tone. In order to simulate the valve thing, I pulled the mid boost tone control, but did not rotate it (12 o'clock). That fattened up the tone. Bass and treble were 12 o'clock.
I have to admit that the 300H is truly great. It does miss that elusive tube "air" that surrounds each and every note. I've only heard that with valves. But this amp comes very, very close -- mostly, I'm sure, because of the v-type pre amp.
The amp has lots of power and headroom. The 280 watt rating is either very conservative or everyone else lies. Keep in mind that I have played through many well-regarded solid state amps, and in general, I just can't make 'em sing. But this amp seems to have great punch, clarity, and tube phat.
Considering that there are lots of bassists that spend the same money on **name of cheap-o solid state amp**, this amp is an amazing bargain. It's not made in China, either. True British quality and tone.
If I were a reader of TalkBass and a fan of Trace V-tone, I'd get one pronto. In fact I did!!!!
Thanks MrBonex.
I was wondering because I have a 300h (that I bought from British audio). I really like it but thought of maybe someday buy one of the all-valve heads. Do you like the cab do you use with it? I use a Mesa Powerhouse 2x10 and would like to get a 1x15 also.
I was wondering because I have a 300h (that I bought from British audio). I really like it but thought of maybe someday buy one of the all-valve heads. Do you like the cab do you use with it? I use a Mesa Powerhouse 2x10 and would like to get a 1x15 also.
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MrBonex said:
My only real world (e.g., not just plunking through a bunch of gear in a music store) experience with Trace Elliot gear has been with my Twin Valve Combo. Do you have any idea how the V300H sounds compared to the head portion of the Twin Valve? Obviously, the preamp layout is totally different, and the amp is SS instead of tube, so I'd expect it to sound pretty different. But, it sounds like you are saying that the V300H hits the "Trace sound" pretty hard, and so far, I tend to think that is a good thing!
Can anyone provide a subjective comparison between the Valve line of heads/combos, the tube V-type heads and the V300H?
Thanks, Tom.
Ok guys, so I have had a week with my Trace now, and I like it a lot but I am having a difficult time quantifiying the "trace tone". It seems to me that it is not really sharp, clear or transparent, in fact this AH250SMX seems to have turned my P-bass into a growl machine, which is a great thing. I have a ton of P-punch and a great amount of mid-range growl. Is this what people are talking about when they say the Trace tone? Or is it in reference to something else.
I am hoping to get clips up soon, as people say Ashdown and Trace sound very similar, and while I am at it Behringer! A clip shootout, in theory of amps that are all reputed to sound very similar.
I am hoping to get clips up soon, as people say Ashdown and Trace sound very similar, and while I am at it Behringer! A clip shootout, in theory of amps that are all reputed to sound very similar.
I think p-basses are supposed to have growl. That's why people love 'em!
Here's my take: Trace allows your bass to (sorry) "be all that it can be" without being clinical about it. Trace is not hi-fi. It's an approach to reproducing bass guitars with enough fidelity to let the instrument (and the player) speak with it's own voice, yet still, under any condition, be warm and musical.
I think that's why TE has such a loyal following -- as seen in this thread.
Does that make sense?
Here's my take: Trace allows your bass to (sorry) "be all that it can be" without being clinical about it. Trace is not hi-fi. It's an approach to reproducing bass guitars with enough fidelity to let the instrument (and the player) speak with it's own voice, yet still, under any condition, be warm and musical.
I think that's why TE has such a loyal following -- as seen in this thread.
Does that make sense?
MrBonex said:
Well, yes and no. To me, the P-bass tone is night and day in regards to what it used to be. And while it is possible for precisions to growl, that it not why people love them. I do agree with that part about it not being hi-fi. It can get there on the solid-state side of the preamp but the valve side and the EQ balance let it become wonderfully full and lo-fiish.
It seems that this thread will live for much longer. Very impresive.
I owned one of the package. The 300 SMX GP-12 with 1048H cab. I is a good rock amps but not more that that. I can't get anything more than that so I need other amps for the rest. It's constrction is above most of the US makers and the appearance is very outstanding too.
Bottom line ... I play through it very seldom as I am less rocker
Do they have it on the production ??
or Ashdown is all they have now
I owned one of the package. The 300 SMX GP-12 with 1048H cab. I is a good rock amps but not more that that. I can't get anything more than that so I need other amps for the rest. It's constrction is above most of the US makers and the appearance is very outstanding too.
Bottom line ... I play through it very seldom as I am less rocker
Do they have it on the production ??
or Ashdown is all they have now
Ok, wierd problem with my new to me head!
Whenever I push in the in switch for the mid preshape switch, I get some really bizarre, heavy distortion. But then after a minute or so it clears up, only to show itself in hints when I really dig in, and only when on the mid presets.
Any ideas? I am not sure I am doing damage or anything. It would seem not, as it clears up, but it seems really odd that it is recurrent.
Whenever I push in the in switch for the mid preshape switch, I get some really bizarre, heavy distortion. But then after a minute or so it clears up, only to show itself in hints when I really dig in, and only when on the mid presets.
Any ideas? I am not sure I am doing damage or anything. It would seem not, as it clears up, but it seems really odd that it is recurrent.
could be a dodgy switch... ive heard some stories that the preshape switch can be infmaous for crapping out after many years. mine is busted, kinda similiar, but totally opposite to yours I get NOTHING for a while, thens ound comes in... then back out. if i let the amp "heat up" for 10mins or so, I have no troubles! odd!
I get NOTHING for a while, thens ound comes in... then back out. if i let the amp "heat up" for 10mins or so, I have no troubles! odd!
Yea, the switch has probably gone bad. Talk to the guys at British Audio Service. They should be able to hook you up with a new one.
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V8 owners, please enlighten me on some the key features of your amp. Or anything you think could be improved on...as if thats possable.
I'm looking into getting a custom all tube head made based on the V8. I want to make sure I have all the best attributes of this amp included in mine. Thanks in advance guys.
V8 owners, please enlighten me on some the key features of your amp. Or anything you think could be improved on...as if thats possable.
I'm looking into getting a custom all tube head made based on the V8. I want to make sure I have all the best attributes of this amp included in mine. Thanks in advance guys.
Dude,
The V6 is 400 watts at either 2 or 4 ohms.
I am a V6 owner plus I occasionally rehearse on an original SVT. They are different.
Not different like solid state and tubes, but different enough. SVT has the classic midrange growl. The eq is "active."
V6 is much higher-fi but still extremely warm and touch-responsive. It goes louder -- cleaner. But the master volume/gain lets you do the overdrive thing quite nicely. The pre-amp (IMO) is one of the biggest reasons they differ.
I will NEVER get rid of my V6. I think it's the best bass amp ever made (and that includes V8s). I love the pre so much, I bought one of the V300H amps from British Audio service for my backup/rehearsal amp. Mucho yummy.
Of course I would recommend you buy it. But I'm a BIG V6 fan, and this (as you might have notices) is a Trace thread. Go figure. Good luck!
The V6 is 400 watts at either 2 or 4 ohms.
I am a V6 owner plus I occasionally rehearse on an original SVT. They are different.
Not different like solid state and tubes, but different enough. SVT has the classic midrange growl. The eq is "active."
V6 is much higher-fi but still extremely warm and touch-responsive. It goes louder -- cleaner. But the master volume/gain lets you do the overdrive thing quite nicely. The pre-amp (IMO) is one of the biggest reasons they differ.
I will NEVER get rid of my V6. I think it's the best bass amp ever made (and that includes V8s). I love the pre so much, I bought one of the V300H amps from British Audio service for my backup/rehearsal amp. Mucho yummy.
Of course I would recommend you buy it. But I'm a BIG V6 fan, and this (as you might have notices) is a Trace thread. Go figure. Good luck!
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