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the TRACE ELLIOT thread

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#243
sorry guys - I've just read everyones glowing comments on Trace... maybe its just my combo amp, either way the GP7 has no decent tone to it, I'm gonna hopefully be getting myself a Kustom RIG one day, that new "Groove Bass" 1200 watt setup they do - just the sound of my Kustom is nice and warm, whereas my trace... :hmm: :scowl:
 
#244
I love Trace gear, and the trace tone. But personally I'm not a huge fan of Trace Elliot cabs. I find them to sound kinda flat. I hear a world of difference with better cabs. Not that they're badly made, I just don't like their sound. So, It might be the driver in your combo you don't like...Try an extension cab from a different brand, and see what you think.

It also depends on what your looking for in tone. Trace has a unique tone, if your trying to get it to sound like an ampeg you might not have much luck w/o some effects.
 
#245
addylewis said:
I'm gonna hopefully be getting myself a Kustom RIG one day, that new "Groove Bass" 1200 watt setup they do - just the sound of my Kustom is nice and warm, whereas my trace... :hmm: :scowl:
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Heh.

Nice. I had a 'Kustom' rig once upon a time. I'd have traded it in an instant for a good Trace rig.

I think you just poked a hole in your credibility.

(not that the new 1200 isn't a nice amp, but it doesn't disqualify the past 30 years of Kustom history).
 
#246
addylewis said:
sorry guys - I've just read everyones glowing comments on Trace... maybe its just my combo amp, either way the GP7 has no decent tone to it, I'm gonna hopefully be getting myself a Kustom RIG one day, that new "Groove Bass" 1200 watt setup they do - just the sound of my Kustom is nice and warm, whereas my trace... :hmm: :scowl:
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If you don't like it, get rid of it.
 
#247
i have a quick question, i have two trace elliot 4x10s, and on the back there are two jack inputs, one labelled input the other link. From my amp head do i plug one cab into input and the other into link or do i plug both of them into input on both cabs?thanks
 
#250
I just switched from Ampeg to a Trace GP12 Series 6 combo with 4 10's. Night and day going from the Ampeg to the Trace. GREAT tone and veru articulate. Actually the amp has more tonal possibilities than anything I have run across and probably more than I will ever use.
 
#251
43% burnt said:
Thread ressurected...

V8 owners, please enlighten me on some the key features of your amp. Or anything you think could be improved on...as if thats possable.

I'm looking into getting a custom all tube head made based on the V8. I want to make sure I have all the best attributes of this amp included in mine. Thanks in advance guys. :D
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Compressor is GREAT. Fattens the sound up heaps. The preamp sounds awesome. It's deep, it's growly, it's punchy, it can cut through two guitars in a rock setting, and it's still got an articulate top end. Construction is very nice. Mines got a bit of wear and tear unfortunantly, but it WASN'T made in a Gibson plant (I e-mailed Shane at British guys) :) The fuses for each pair of power tubes is a great feature, you can run the V8 right on two tubes. Simple, yet effective EQ. I would like a low mid sort of frequancy to help with growl and that area for punch, but I seem to get enough. The Schroeder should help too.

One thing I would like, is side handles. Carrying it around it easy using the top handles, but getting it on top of a tall cabinet is impossible using them.

Hope that helps!
 
#252
Awesome, Thanks for the input.

The V8 has 1/2 power mode right? Can you run it on half-power without re-biasing?

I've decided that the V8 is a beast all it's own, and probably cannot be duplicated...even by the best.

I'm getting a custom tube head made for me from Matamp. But, It's going to take a little while for me to raise the loot. I'm still in the basic stages of specing it up. I don't think theres anyway they will build me a 400w head though. It'll probably be rated 120-140, but should be plenty loud. From what I understand that's equivilent to most 300w tube heads. I'm going with one of their standard models (GTOL 6550) with a few of my own added features. :hyper:
 
#253
MrBonex said:
I will NEVER get rid of my V6. I think it's the best bass amp ever made (and that includes V8s).
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Same here... the tone I get from the V6 rivals or exceeds anything I've played thru. Who needs the stinkin' overdrive and compressor on a V8, anyway... that's what effects are for!!! :spit:

... of course, this is coming from someone who (i) has never played thru a V8, and (ii) realizes how seldom one comes on the market, and (iii) could never afford one anyway. But other than that... no sour grapes...! :D
 
#255
Great Trace thread! I play through a Trace GP12XV (the old silver faced Quatravalve era pre) into an old green SWR Stereo 800 into an Eden 2-10XLT. I think the Trace and Eden go well together. I wouldn't call the Trace clinical, but it's not a colored pre like the V-type (Alembic-type) pre. The Eden provides the pleasing color in the low mids and the Trace gives that huge slam punch. I play an F BN5 and I love the tone of this rig. I have a V-Type pre as well and it's the warm round tone that I use with my passive Jazz.

Lately my rig was sounding flat and lifeless so I changed the 1 preamp tube (in the GP12) and this made all the difference. I don't think these are "starved plate" pre designs so the preamp tube really made a difference to my ears.

Tapp
 
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Tapp said:
Lately my rig was sounding flat and lifeless so I changed the 1 preamp tube (in the GP12) and this made all the difference. I don't think these are "starved plate" pre designs so the preamp tube really made a difference to my ears.

Tapp
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hey Tapp, I am curious to know what brand of tube you are now using in the GP12XV?
Also, what is a "starved plate" pre design?
 
#257
I believe I put a JJ 12AX7 in there. I can't really give you a big technical explanation of "starved plate" like PBG could but it's when the tube is operating on a very low plate voltage. Many tube based effects pedals (ala Butler Tube Driver) are based on this topology. I think (don't quote me) that Eden and SWR heads are low voltage as well.

Tapp
 
#258
Tapp said:
Many tube based effects pedals (ala Butler Tube Driver) are based on this topology.
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Are you referring to the Butler-designed Tube Driver made by Chandler and later on Tube Works? If so, I believe that at least the rack mount versions run the tube at full plate voltage.

Tom.
 
#260
43% burnt said:
Tom,

Christ almighty...I just checked out your gear list. Where do you keep all that stuff?? I would never leave the house if I had all that gear...lol :D :confused: :(

Very impressive.
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Let's just say that my basement music room is very, very crowded! Far more now than in the photos on my blog! :p

Too much gear, too little time with the wife and kids out of the house... ;)
 
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