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the TRACE ELLIOT thread

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My new (to me) SMX Dual Compressor pedal arrived yesterday, and I had a chance to play with it briefly last night. This is a very flexible pedal, and I was able to really "squash" my signal without audible pumping and breathing, which is exactly what I had hoped for. Well, that, and the ability set it up such that normally, it is not doing much, but if I hit it with a really hard signal (like when I get a bit too greedy on the bass boost of my OBP-1!), it keeps my signal from overloading - and of course, it does this too. Great pedal!

My question is, where can I find an 18v adapter for this pedal, without having to fork out some major cash?

Thanks, Tom.
 
#163
mgmadian said:
Just had an opportunity to get my amp family together in one spot over the weekend and decided to take a picture of the brood. Makes me realize I've probably got more power than I need at the moment... but each of these things is great and I'd have a very hard time parting with any one of 'em.

Prominently situated at the top of the heap in the picture is the mighty Trace V6. Have only gigged a few times with it so far, but so far I'm lovin' it. Just had a tune-up from British Audio Service and it sounds killer :D
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You must be a proud father...having such a wonderfull family and all :D
 
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tombowlus said:
My new (to me) SMX Dual Compressor pedal arrived yesterday, and I had a chance to play with it briefly last night. This is a very flexible pedal, and I was able to really "squash" my signal without audible pumping and breathing, which is exactly what I had hoped for. Well, that, and the ability set it up such that normally, it is not doing much, but if I hit it with a really hard signal (like when I get a bit too greedy on the bass boost of my OBP-1!), it keeps my signal from overloading - and of course, it does this too. Great pedal!

My question is, where can I find an 18v adapter for this pedal, without having to fork out some major cash?

Thanks, Tom.
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IIRC from when I also had an SMX pedal, I was able to use a 'regular' 18-volt adapter from Radio Shack, along with a barrel adapter (I forget the exact dimensions, but Radio Shack has a ton of 'em).
 
#166
tombowlus said:
Nice collection of gear! Care to give us the full "compare and contrast?" ;)
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Thanks! And this is coming from The Master. Next thing you know joker's going chime in

I'll try to write out a full-bore comparison (prolly a separate thread), but the brief (and useless) overview is that they're all killer! Between the Trace and Boogie, the Trace is a little cleaner/clearer and can (probably) get louder, but realistically I haven't needed to push either one of them to stupid levels... and they definitely can both get stupid loud. The Boogie's EQ is pretty versatile even at lower volumes, while the Trace's IMO sounds better at louder volumes. I can and do dial in similar tones from both of them.

Same with the Kern, perhaps the clearest of the three with tubes in their preamps. I've kinda moved away from the pre/power thing in favor of all-in-one heads over the past couple years, but I'm still holdin' on to the Kern because (as we all know) tastes change. When I've run the Kern preamp into the tube power section of the Trace or Boogie... amazing!

The T-Funk is also great... Dave Funk was able to mod mine slightly by adding another input on the rear he calls "Power Amp Thru", which allows an external preamp to plug directly to the power amp section of the TFunk without cutting out the internal TFunk preamp. I've intended to use an ABY-pedal to footswitch between the TFunk and Kern preamps, both powered by the TFunk power amp section, and thereby create my own 2-channel amp, with one pre tube pre and another solid-state. And would be light and have no fan. It doesn't work quite that easily with the Kern due to an impedance mismatch between the Kern's output and the impedance that the TFunk's Power Amp Thru expects to see, but works great with the Avalon! I've been meaning to try other external preamps (possibly soild-state ones will generally work better) but haven't had the time. Highly recommend this mod, contact Dave for details...
 
#167
Good Evening... I was wondering about something...

A good friend of mine wants to sell me his trace elliot GP11 MK V, but I can't find anything on that amp....

Do you people have any Idea of the power it helds, or about anything about this amp (exept the fact that it's a 4*10 combo rofl)

PS : if this message isn't in the proper topic, i'll post in another section... Thank you very much...

Have a nice day,

Nuf
 
#168
mgmadian said:
Thanks! And this is coming from The Master. Next thing you know joker's going chime in

I'll try to write out a full-bore comparison (prolly a separate thread), but the brief (and useless) overview is that they're all killer! Between the Trace and Boogie, the Trace is a little cleaner/clearer and can (probably) get louder, but realistically I haven't needed to push either one of them to stupid levels... and they definitely can both get stupid loud. The Boogie's EQ is pretty versatile even at lower volumes, while the Trace's IMO sounds better at louder volumes. I can and do dial in similar tones from both of them.

Same with the Kern, perhaps the clearest of the three with tubes in their preamps. I've kinda moved away from the pre/power thing in favor of all-in-one heads over the past couple years, but I'm still holdin' on to the Kern because (as we all know) tastes change. When I've run the Kern preamp into the tube power section of the Trace or Boogie... amazing!
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Thanks for sharing! I find it interesting that you can dial up pretty much the same tone on both the Trace and the Boogie. Those two seem like fairly different takes on how a tube head should sound. I happen to like the tones that I have heard from both Boogie and Trace Elliot heads, so your information is interesting. I was somewhat surprised to hear that the Kern is more clear than either, too. All the clips that I have heard from the Kerns sound pretty darn full sounding, but if they are also clear, then I may need to check one out!

Thanks again. I look forward to the "full" reviews!

Tom.
 
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tombowlus said:
Thanks for sharing! I find it interesting that you can dial up pretty much the same tone on both the Trace and the Boogie. Those two seem like fairly different takes on how a tube head should sound. I happen to like the tones that I have heard from both Boogie and Trace Elliot heads, so your information is interesting. I was somewhat surprised to hear that the Kern is more clear than either, too. All the clips that I have heard from the Kerns sound pretty darn full sounding, but if they are also clear, then I may need to check one out!
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Yeah, as you probably know, all 3 preamps (Kern, Boogie, V6) have the same fundamental design...the Fender Bassman (or is it Showman?) circuit. I can never remember. Whatever... all of them have that well-known 3-band passive EQ.

One thing I should note is that the Kern gets very clean/clear with 5751s in lieu of the 12AX7s...I like this swap myself. I haven't yet tried it with the other preamps. Also, I find myself using the Bright switch on the Kern, and dialing down either the Treble knob or the Tone knob to compensate... that get the Kern clear-sounding in a hurry!
 
#171
mgmadian said:
Yeah, as you probably know, all 3 preamps (Kern, Boogie, V6) have the same fundamental design...the Fender Bassman (or is it Showman?) circuit. I can never remember. Whatever... all of them have that well-known 3-band passive EQ.

One thing I should note is that the Kern gets very clean/clear with 5751s in lieu of the 12AX7s...I like this swap myself. I haven't yet tried it with the other preamps. Also, I find myself using the Bright switch on the Kern, and dialing down either the Treble knob or the Tone knob to compensate... that get the Kern clear-sounding in a hurry!
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Interesting! I like your idea of swapping out the 12AX7's for 5751's. This can make a very pleasing difference (or at least provide you with other options) in some amps.

As for the Fender design, it's the Dual Showman, but I didn't know that all three were strictly derivative of the Showman design.
 
#172
Question for my fellow trace enthusiasts. I recently acquired a crazy pedal (zvex woolly mammoth). I used it last night at practice through a TE AH300 12band, and the overload light was blinking like crazy when I turned the pedal on. I think its because of the low-end boost the pedal provides. What can I do to compensate for this? Would a compressor be the answer??

I have an AH 250 7band, and I'm worried it might damage my head.
 
#176
I read most of this thread and most have noticed the new Trace Elliot .co.uk web site, it didn't take long to work out who is behind it once you checked the UK addresses, its Peavy!

So probably will be the same over the other side of the pond!

Hope that helps with some of the speculation, I'll get chance to check out a press pack from Frankfurt next Monday, I'll post here if there is anything worthy of a mention

Tony
 
#178
Oh make it easy for the kids ;)
Peavey to Distribute Trace Elliot Worldwide

At the Frankfurt Music Fair on Apr. 6th, Peavey Electronics announced the company would be taking on worldwide distribution of Trace Elliot, the British company best known for its bass amplification. In addition to distribution, Peavey anticipates the agreement will be beneficial in the joint development of new products. Both companies are expected, however, to retain independence and concentrate efforts on different segments of the amplifier market.
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