Dumb question maybe... but I'm very close to pulling the trigger on the exact same model - the mid-90s V-type 4 in green. Assuming it has a very clean bill of health, what is the dollar amount you'd put on this thing? Right now the seller and I are talking in the neighborhood of $1500 USD. As an owner, just wondering what your thoughts were.
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The Trace Elliot V-type Club!!
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I'm definitely out of touch with gear prices but I feel like that's still a bit high but fair I guess due to rarity.
I also have rose tinted glasses because I scored my V4 for about $400 USD...
One of the 1990's Celestion 12 bass guitar speaker Custom Made For Trace Elliot in my Trace Elliot V-Type 1248H 4x12 speaker cabinet was damaged....
Lastly does anyone have a source for a new or used Celestion C12T-200E Custom Made For Trace Elliot 12 bass guitar speaker 8 OHM.
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Used TE drivers pop up on Reverb from time to time. Maybe you will get lucky.
After a little advice please, got the chance at three V Types, a V4, V4mkII and a V6, is there any sonic difference between the two V4's and which one is more desirable? How does the V6 compare, is it just a louder V4?
I have a V-Type, V6, and V8.
The V-Type, V4, and V6 all use the same circuit cards. The V6 output card is stuffed with a few extra components for the grid networks of two extra tubes.
I would say the V6 is the most desirable due to the extra headroom and fullness. The V6 seems to benefit from some sort of gestalt; as the difference seems larger than expected.
Between the V-Type and V4, I think the V-Type is more desirable (tolex VS rat fur)...assuming the tolex still looks good. If not, I would go with whichever is in the best condition.
Both of my MkI V-Types are running three out of four of the original 12AX7s. The V-Type has a Gold Lion ECC83 B759 and the V6 has a Tube Store Preferred Series 7025. The V-Type is running JJ KT88s and the V6 is running Sovtek KT88s.
I rolled tubes in the V-Type and chose the Gold Lion so the amp sounds less like the V6. The Gold Lion emphasizes the mids, but is more woolly down low. If I did not own the V6, I would have probably left the original tube in place...I normally try to avoid wool. The circuits in this amp are not particularly responsive to different tubes. The changes in tone and response were pretty minor. Trace V-Type Tube Rolling | TalkBass.com
The V6 is super sweet sounding and produces huge lows that remain clear and focused. IMHO the lows this amp can produce stand out as remarkable.
The V8 has stronger mids than the V6, but doesn't sound as sweet. I like the V6 better at first, but I get tired of it faster. The V8 seems more transparent and I enjoy playing through it longer. The V8 seems more like a rocker than the V6. A bit leaner lows and more growly/grindy. The V6 leans more towards huge cleans.
The V8 originally ran a bunch of Sovtek 12AX7WA and 12AX7WB. These tubes were still in my amp when I bought it. I rolled tubes and chose a range of models that essentially made the V8 sound closer to the V6...this was before I bought the V6 and V-type. I chose a current production Mullard ECC83 for V1, a Gold Lion ECC83 Standard for V2, and JJ ECC803S pretty much everywhere else. The V8 is naturally a bit more woolly than the V6. The new tubes filled out and focused the lows and added a bit more clarity and color in the mids. The Gold Lion is in the OD channel. I think the V8 was more responsive to tube rolling than the V-Type Trace V8 Tube Rolling | TalkBass.com
The V4 MkII uses the same preamp as the V8, so I would expect them to sound very similar. I believe the V4 MkII uses the same output circuit, but not the same card as the V8. AFAIK, the V4 MkII is the rarest...especially if you are talking about a head. I have never seen a V4 MkII in person and I think V4 MkII combos may have been more common than the heads.
Feel free to ask a question (or two).
Yes the V4mkII is a head but think I'm going to go for the V6. Why do you tire of the V6 if you don't mind me asking?
I wouldn't read too much into that comment. I have a large collection of amps. Everyone of them sounds fabulous when I first start playing it, but I tire of all of them.
Why I think I tire of the V6 more quickly than the V8. The V6 sounds really sweet, but it's fairly mid-scooped, which I think reduces how transparent it is. If I can't hear the little nuances in my playing it makes me feel disconnected from the sound. The V8 is not as sweet IMHO, but I think it's more transparent.
In all honesty I would have a really hard time choosing between them if I had to sell one. The are pretty evenly matched as far as volume. The V6 does the huge lows, better than most amps. The V8 is a bit more versatile and has an OD channel and a nice compressor.
The best thing you can do is try before you buy (if possible).
This is all very accurate. The V6 does this thing where it just sounds so powerful, even at low volume. I goose the mids quite a bit just to get "my" tone, but it is my favorite amp. I would love to find a mkii V4 though. Those are rare as hens teeth.
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And yes, they sound very similar. I would even say that they sound the same.
I believe there are about 15 MkII V4’s…this is mine!
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And yes, they sound very similar. I would even say that they sound the same.
Man, I do love your photos, dissa!
Thanks! I have taken many photos like this...Man, I do love your photos, dissa!
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Looks like a really nice clean V6 on Reverb. No affiliation, just came up on my feed. Fair price too.
Trace Elliot V-Type V6 400W Tube Bass Amp Head 1996 Trace Elliot V-Type V6 400W Tube Bass Amp Head 1996 | Reverb
Looks like a really nice clean V6 on Reverb. No affiliation, just came up on my feed. Fair price too.
Trace Elliot V-Type V6 400W Tube Bass Amp Head 1996 Trace Elliot V-Type V6 400W Tube Bass Amp Head 1996 | Reverb
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Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Thanks for the lead, though! I've been thinking of picking up a V6 for a while, and that one is the cleanest I have seen. The same seller has a V-Type in similar condition for sale.
