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The Walking Dead: Season Five

#381
Not sure the group would be so willing to give up their weapons given the last time they did that they were a few moments away from being bled out and hung on meat hooks. I generally liked the episode though. The interviews were cool (especially liked Carol's).
 
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#383
I just rewatched the episode for all the Carol scenes.
  1. In the opening scene outside the walls, Carol is fully alert, eyes sweeping side to side, weapon at the ready, walking at the back of the group with Rick & Judith.
  2. When the group gives up their weapons, Carol exaggerates her shoulder injury and has a hard time with the gun strap. Her body language is timid and submissive, like she was around Ed in season 1, and she avoids eye contact. Her behavior elicits the desired response: the woman taking the guns (Olivia from the comics I presume?) underestimates Carol, smiles, and cracks a joke. Rick notices this and exchanges a meaningful look with Carol.
  3. In the scene where Daryl is gutting the possum, Carol is very anxious and looking all around. Carl asks her to come explore the house next door with him. Carol and Rick exchange meaningful looks. Carol is mistrustful of the Alexandrites' motives ("they're just giving them [these nice houses] away...") and picks up a pad of paper. Then she has a strategy meeting with Rick and Daryl (they decide to all sleep in the same house tonight) and smiles her beautiful smile. :D
  4. When the group settles down for the night, Carol is using her new pad of paper to draw a map of the compound. Deanna comes to visit, and we get a shot from her perspective (where she says "you said you were family") and as the camera sweeps the room, Carol is invisible to Deanna (we see only the very top of her head in the corner of the frame for a split second). Then as Deanna leaves, we see Carol sitting on the sofa around the corner from the door, and again, she is conspicuously out of Deanna's sightline.
  5. At the end of Michonne's video interview, Deanna asks "All of you?" Michonne sighs, hesitates, and says "All of us." And then the next character you see is Carol: she is the foreground and immediately leaves the frame to the right. She is first out the door to go explore the new surroundings.
  6. Carol's video interview with Deanna is pretty obviously all LIES! (at least from the audience perspective--I wonder if Deanna can tell?) One thing I noticed on second viewing that was kind of interesting is that this is the next scene following Rick's nighttime encounter with the (presumably) abusive husband. In case the audience forgot Carol was abused.
  7. "Time to punch the clock and make the casseroles!" and Daryl is completely bewildered--the look on his face is priceless. "We need to keep up appearances" is the key line here.
  8. Rick, Daryl, and Carol have a nice talk at the end of the episode. "If we get comfortable and let our guard down, this place will make us weak" is funny the way she's dressed. ;)
To me, the key to this episode was Carol vs. Daryl. They are both equally mistrustful of the situation, but react oppositely: Daryl doesn't change at all and remains an outsider, while Carol does a complete 180 and tries to become an insider under false pretenses.
 
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#384
Yeah, Daryl seems like he's ready to walk out the gate and go back to eating opossum. All this talk about "Out there too long." Not Daryl.

Also, I didn't realize how much older Carl has gotten until he was around other kids. Isn't he a little too old to be wearing his dad's hat?
 
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#391
Btw... did anyone else find it odd that the conversation at the end happened outside on the porch?!
We already know that they are "listeners" with a bionic ear from when Aaron stalked them, plus they are "all about transparency" so wouldn't you just assume they are listening, at least for a while??
 
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Mushroo said:
I just rewatched the episode for all the Carol scenes.
  1. In the opening scene outside the walls, Carol is fully alert, eyes sweeping side to side, weapon at the ready, walking at the back of the group with Rick & Judith.
  2. When the group gives up their weapons, Carol exaggerates her shoulder injury and has a hard time with the gun strap. Her body language is timid and submissive, like she was around Ed in season 1, and she avoids eye contact. Her behavior elicits the desired response: the woman taking the guns (Olivia from the comics I presume?) underestimates Carol, smiles, and cracks a joke. Rick notices this and exchanges a meaningful look with Carol.
  3. In the scene where Daryl is gutting the possum, Carol is very anxious and looking all around. Carl asks her to come explore the house next door with him. Carol and Rick exchange meaningful looks. Carol is mistrustful of the Alexandrites' motives ("they're just giving them [these nice houses] away...") and picks up a pad of paper. Then she has a strategy meeting with Rick and Daryl (they decide to all sleep in the same house tonight) and smiles her beautiful smile. :D
  4. When the group settles down for the night, Carol is using her new pad of paper to draw a map of the compound. Deanna comes to visit, and we get a shot from her perspective (where she says "you said you were family") and as the camera sweeps the room, Carol is invisible to Deanna (we see only the very top of her head in the corner of the frame for a split second). Then as Deanna leaves, we see Carol sitting on the sofa around the corner from the door, and again, she is conspicuously out of Deanna's sightline.
  5. At the end of Michonne's video interview, Deanna asks "All of you?" Michonne sighs, hesitates, and says "All of us." And then the next character you see is Carol: she is the foreground and immediately leaves the frame to the right. She is first out the door to go explore the new surroundings.
  6. Carol's video interview with Deanna is pretty obviously all LIES! (at least from the audience perspective--I wonder if Deanna can tell?) One thing I noticed on second viewing that was kind of interesting is that this is the next scene following Rick's nighttime encounter with the (presumably) abusive husband. In case the audience forgot Carol was abused.
  7. "Time to punch the clock and make the casseroles!" and Daryl is completely bewildered--the look on his face is priceless. "We need to keep up appearances" is the key line here.
  8. Rick, Daryl, and Carol have a nice talk at the end of the episode. "If we get comfortable and let our guard down, this place will make us weak" is funny the way she's dressed. ;)
To me, the key to this episode was Carol vs. Daryl. They are both equally mistrustful of the situation, but react oppositely: Daryl doesn't change at all and remains an outsider, while Carol does a complete 180 and tries to become an insider under false pretenses.
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Very well spotted and thanks for sharing. Excellent observations.
 
#400
Kinda spun the wheels tonight for the most part, they are def setting up for something, but it's these soap opera episodes that made me stop watching for a while. I mean really, I understand with TWD they need to advance characters and interactions, and make it about more than "Survivor: Zombie Island", but the pacing can be painfully slow.

Same way they screwed the pooch in the very first episode of 12 monkeys. "Oh, you're from the freaking future!?!?! Looking for me??!?!?! To stop a plague that may kill the entire human species?!?!?!" Thirty minutes later, all that urgency is completely forgotten for this gem of a pep talk:"You'll be fine at the cocktail party, just mingle!" The next sound heard was my remote clicking, never to return to that nonsense.

I have definitely been enjoying some of this seasons twists, and the heavy death toll has been gut wrenching. Hard to believe there are only 3 episodes left. Anyone else remember when TV shows would run seasons of 20 episodes and up? Not saying it should match 70s/80s sit-coms at 25 or so, but 16 is too short, especially when they split it in half by 2 months. The endless hyping and re-running in between becomes unbearable.
 
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