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This worth getting?.. (Peavey content)

#41
BW loaded bass cabs always performed well for me.

I still own some Scorpion loaded 112 PA cabs (vintage 1984) and they continue to see duty as mains for acoustic music and monitors for everything else. I have other PA/monitor speakers, but all the folks I play with love those cabinets.
 
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Al Kraft said:
BW loaded bass cabs always performed well for me.

I still own some Scorpion loaded 112 PA cabs (vintage 1984) and they continue to see duty as mains for acoustic music and monitors for everything else. I have other PA/monitor speakers, but all the folks I play with love those cabinets.
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I remember playing through similar if not the same Peavey PA cabs way-back-when (not 1984 - more like a decade later, just when Peavey gear is in its prime).
 
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Ok a quick update: the port is a 4" hole cut in the front baffle.


Cab sounds good, different than the 210AV cabs. It took me a good ten minutes to adjust to playing a 15" again and their tone. (Love it!)

The Peavey isn't lined on the inside. So I think doing that along with the K140 will tighten up the sound a bit.
 
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The K140 will likely need a second port/vent to be tuned properly for optimal performance. The E140 specified two 4 inch tubes (at 6.5 inches tube length) to get around 25 square inches of vent area. Once again I'd check with the JBL guys for the specifics on the K140. You might be okay as is or they might suggest you really need that additional port area (most likely). JBL tends to favor a lined cab in their enclosure instructions so that might be worth the extra effort to get the optimal performance. Good luck!
 
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I bought one of those cabs back in the mid 80's and used it up until recently with a Peavey MKIV and thought it sounded pretty good..one thing it doesn't come with standard is the castors and I'm thinking about putting some on mine although I'm not sure where to put them on the bottom..do you have a pic of the cab with the wheels fitted???

Leslie
 
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peavey_scorpion_plus_15_loudspeaker.jpg This is a pic of a Scorpion 15..maybe the speaker in yours is different
 
#51
Looks late 70s early 80s. Their 2x15s could sound alright but the 1x15s and combos (TNT TKO) were light on depth of tone, though generally indestructible. They could sound good in the mix and the combos (similar enclosure to this) were maybe the first to include a semi parametric mid control. Very confusing at the time!
 
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BassGreaser said:
Doing more research on other vintage 15's.. How would the Altec 421A for the Peavey cab match compared to say the K140 or E140?
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I wasn't aware that Altec Lansing was still making those kind of speakers. I thought they had gotten into the newer PC/tablet/smartphone consumer sound equipment and accessories market.
 
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Al Kraft said:
I wasn't aware that Altec Lansing was still making those kind of speakers. I thought they had gotten into the newer PC/tablet/smartphone consumer sound equipment and accessories market.
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They don't.. Well not that I'm aware of.

I was speaking of the vintage Altec 421A speaker.

Does anyone know the specs on an Altec 421A speaker?

I just tested the Peavey can very shortly with the Guild ThunderBass head and the Scorpion speaker farts out quickly.
 
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BassGreaser said:
They don't.. Well not that I'm aware of.

I was speaking of the vintage Altec 421A speaker.

Does anyone know the specs on an Altec 421A speaker?
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The spec sheet is here: Link Removed

One thing to bear in mind with the 421A is that it was not intended for front loading. You can cut away clearance slots for the frame ribs on the back (I've done this), but it's a PITA. Old Altecs are pretty easy to blow up too, at least IME. I preferred the 421-8H by a pretty wide margin back in the day, FWIW.
 
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Passinwind said:
The spec sheet is here: Link Removed

One thing to bear in mind with the 421A is that it was not intended for front loading. You can cut away clearance slots for the frame ribs on the back (I've done this), but it's a PITA. Old Altecs are pretty easy to blow up too, at least IME. I preferred the 421-8H by a pretty wide margin back in the day, FWIW.
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Hmm.. Well maybe the 421 won't work.

Is it the same story with the 418 Altec?

Maybe I'll just stick with JBL.. Unless there is a new driver that would give good results.
 
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BassGreaser said:
Hmm.. Well maybe the 421 won't work.
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It's only the 421A that has those pesky ribs for non-pleasure, 421-8H is no problem that way. If buying a recone, be very sure it has been done right, there are many bogus ones out there.

BassGreaser said:
Is it the same story with the 418 Altec?
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Can't remember, but you could always ask the Great Plains folks.
 
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Passinwind said:
It's only the 421A that has those pesky ribs for non-pleasure, 421-8H is no problem that way. If buying a recone, be very sure it has been done right, there are many bogus ones out there.



Can't remember, but you could always ask the Great Plains folks.
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Great Plains is the only place I know of where you can get all the old Altec materials/information, parts and service. I agree 100% with your take on the A versus the -8H and the fact that Altecs do require that you be careful with the power you feed them.

If I were going to use a "vintage type" speaker in that cab, a new JBL or new Peavey (Scorpion or BW) would be better choices in my mind. Finding an old Altec that's still in good shape isn't easy...of course enough money can pretty much get you anything you want.
 
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Al Kraft said:
Great Plains is the only place I know of where you can get all the old Altec materials and information. I agree 100% with your take on the A versus the -8H and the fact that Altecs do reuire taht you be careful with the power you feed them.


Great Plains is the only place I know of where you can get all the old Altec materials/information, parts and service. I agree 100% with your take on the A versus the -8H and the fact that Altecs do require that you be careful with the power you feed them.

If I were going to use a "vintage type" speaker in that cab, a new JBL or new Peavey (Scorpion or BW) would be better choices in my mind. Finding an old Altec that's still in good shape isn't easy...of course enough money can pretty much get you anything you want.
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I did have an E140 in a Showman tone-ring can that sounded amazing. So I'll probably go that route.
 

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