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Threads concerning heavy metal: music's true nerds?
- Thread starter Marlat
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Oh, Helloween begs to differ with you buddy.
How could I forget! D'oh!
And don't forget these guys either
When I was teaching I had a senior in my physics class that was an absolutely devout metalhead. After school one day I let him "educate" me on all the different categories of metal.
1. I can't believe there are actually that many sub genres
2. I can't believe people memorize that many bands and which sub genre they belong in. Of course, the grouping seems to be the biggest source of argument among metalheads.
I found the whole thing interesting, but for the most part metal really isn't my thing so it was interesting just to hear how into this classification people get. But he was a good kid so it was worth me showing some interest in what he was passionate about.
On the other hand, I've also had several conversations with the "dismissive metalhead". The guys who have encyclopedic knowledge of metal but no knowledge of any other genre which doesn't really matter because they look down on every type of music.
My general response is, "which type of metal is best for guys that really hate their dad?"
1. I can't believe there are actually that many sub genres
2. I can't believe people memorize that many bands and which sub genre they belong in. Of course, the grouping seems to be the biggest source of argument among metalheads.
I found the whole thing interesting, but for the most part metal really isn't my thing so it was interesting just to hear how into this classification people get. But he was a good kid so it was worth me showing some interest in what he was passionate about.
On the other hand, I've also had several conversations with the "dismissive metalhead". The guys who have encyclopedic knowledge of metal but no knowledge of any other genre which doesn't really matter because they look down on every type of music.
My general response is, "which type of metal is best for guys that really hate their dad?"
Sounds like marching band but with more "GRRR" and less color
.That sounds about right, lol.
I was into metal before it was uncool. I was into metal before it was even metal. It was just, like, ore and minerals.
Well, jazzheads are about the same, if not even worse.
I once talked to a jazzpianist who I occasionally jammed with, and the way he talked about all the jazz subgenres, plus all their places in music history, was very geeky and hautain.
The average metalhead doesn't even hold a candle to that guy.
Just saying.
I also do the same with classical music.
If you say Debussy and Tsjaikovski are both "classical composers".
You'll get a two-hour rant on how Debussy was an innovator with his expressionisme and that he is nothing alike the other and.............
I once talked to a jazzpianist who I occasionally jammed with, and the way he talked about all the jazz subgenres, plus all their places in music history, was very geeky and hautain.
The average metalhead doesn't even hold a candle to that guy.
Just saying.
I also do the same with classical music.
If you say Debussy and Tsjaikovski are both "classical composers".
You'll get a two-hour rant on how Debussy was an innovator with his expressionisme and that he is nothing alike the other and.............
I agree. I also think that the metal crowd shares a specific trait with a ton of non-pop genres: If a band is truly metal, they are not permitted to be successful. They are then sellouts.........
Remember when "Dookie" started selling way too many records? The thousands of Green Day fans turned on them so fast.
Remember when "Dookie" started selling way too many records? The thousands of Green Day fans turned on them so fast.
2 and 3 are definitely true
Actually, you can divide metal fans into two main categories: those who get the joke, and those who don't.
This is also true for metal performers, but a higher percentage of them get the joke. (c.f. Venom and Venom fans as a classic example from "the good old days").
I only listen to aluminium music, softer than metal and once youre done wit it you can crush it and throw it awayto be recycled!
^fail
I am old school. I still spin Sabbath. I smile. I listen to most of the various genre's of metal and those I don't listen to, I still respect. I am a nerd, but my nerdiness is tempered with my being cultured as well. I find it easier to move among most people without awakening suspition. And I will leave with this quote. "The best album is always the bands first album. They have nothing to lose." Ozzy Osbourne.
I'll agree with neediness and disagree with metal 'rules'. If you didn't know me or my friends you would never guess we were metal heads. When I hear something or play something in a metal song particularly awesome, I smile, sometimes I laugh with glee. Let the music speak for itself IMO, I enjoy it, I'm not going to hide it for the sake of being Br00tal. I'm not going to dress in all black to play at a concert, heck I'll wear a polo shirt if I want. We do have some pretty nerdy tenancies however, when to draw the line with odd time signatures, metal covers of old video game music, tech geeks, band geeks. I guess we are nerds all around, but not the snooty type you suggest, only one person has attempted to beat me up in all of my schooling, I'm not an arrogant prick etc. Denotations of a word are weird.
