I am a nerd and proud of it. All the metalheads I know are nerds. Fantasy books, console games, anime, etc.
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Threads concerning heavy metal: music's true nerds?
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I am a nerd and proud of it. All the metalheads I know are nerds. Fantasy books, console games, anime, etc.
After reading through the whole thread there was always the "Doom" genre and the "Brootal" word, why are you only looking at those?
Also Gorgoroth and that, well yeah those names are really umm well dunno strange?
but seriously, would you really call lemmy a nerd? or mustaine? or harris?
Subgenres work because they divide the oh so many metal bands, lets say you compare Death to Iron maiden, they are metal but they sound nothing like eachoter.. hmm what do you do?.
I dont see why all the hate towards metal, when you go to a metal concert or a festival like Wacken (sp?) you see all the brotherhood that goes on there and the loyal community that keeps supporting the genre.
Also Gorgoroth and that, well yeah those names are really umm well dunno strange?
but seriously, would you really call lemmy a nerd? or mustaine? or harris?
Subgenres work because they divide the oh so many metal bands, lets say you compare Death to Iron maiden, they are metal but they sound nothing like eachoter.. hmm what do you do?.
I dont see why all the hate towards metal, when you go to a metal concert or a festival like Wacken (sp?) you see all the brotherhood that goes on there and the loyal community that keeps supporting the genre.
Lemmy collects WWII German stuff. Yeah, he's a nerd.
Mustaine seems like kind of a jerk sometimes. Don't know if he's nerdy or not.
Harris? Oh yeah, nerdy.
Yeah, it's funny because I've seen videos of Wacken and such, and everyone seems so happy.
And subgenres, I've never got the hate towards metal for that. All music has it. Jazz has swing, smooth, bebop, etc. Classical has Romantic, Classic, Baroque, Renaissance and several different kinds of modernism. And different sounds within those as well.
Well I for one, play in a metal band (lookat my sig) and we are the most hilarious bunch of guys who are not taking themselves seriously I have ever witnessed. Seriously.
Anyway, everyone of us listens to a damn wide range of music, yes even the well known bands ill-reputed as taken by commerce. And yes, even Stuff like Dire Straits, ZZ Top and others find their way into our music collection, these two bands named because theyre actually our favourite.
I guess i shouldn't consider myself a metalhead then?
Well, I don't.
Anyway, everyone of us listens to a damn wide range of music, yes even the well known bands ill-reputed as taken by commerce. And yes, even Stuff like Dire Straits, ZZ Top and others find their way into our music collection, these two bands named because theyre actually our favourite.
I guess i shouldn't consider myself a metalhead then?
Well, I don't.
To be perfectly honest, guitards trying to emulate Mustaine and guys like Malmsteen's attitude and egos is exactly why I no longer play metal.
I guess that's what always bugged me about him. He always seemed like a guitard.
Thankfully, my guitarist is not one.
I wonder why there are no deep love songs in the metal genre, unless they're about suicide pacts, etc. Even metal nerds still really fall in love, don't they?
Is there such a thing as a thoughtful, poetic, technically elegant "metal" lyric? If there is, I'd like to see it. I've studied hundreds of them for a certain project, and they depend on clumsy cliches of negativity, aggressivity, hate, misogynism, machoism, brutalism and demonism. Is this what became of rock'n'roll? It seems to be taken as a matter of course these days.
Is there such a thing as a thoughtful, poetic, technically elegant "metal" lyric? If there is, I'd like to see it. I've studied hundreds of them for a certain project, and they depend on clumsy cliches of negativity, aggressivity, hate, misogynism, machoism, brutalism and demonism. Is this what became of rock'n'roll? It seems to be taken as a matter of course these days.
There are metal love songs. Sabbath wrote a few. My Dying Bride has some as well. "The Light at the End of the World" is very sad, but kinda sweet in a way. I really like the lyrics to that one, I'm a bit of a sentimentalist, so I sometimes cry. Yeah, I know. *Hands in guy card.* One of the three rewrites of their song Sear Me is also fairly lovey dovey for a metal band to write. "Like Gods of the Sun" also seems to have romantic themes. Actually, come to think of it, a lot of their songs are like that.
"Wolf Moon" by Type O Negative is a love song. Kinda dirty, depending on your interpretation of the lyrics. "Be my Druidess," another by ToN, seems fairly self-explanatory. "Christian Woman" is full of puns, but it's hateful or "brutal." Another good song by them is "Haunted," though a little less happy than "Druidess" or "Wolf Moon." They've done their fair share of really aggressive, nasty songs, too though, especially on the first album.
But does the world need more love songs? That's what everyone writes about, it seems, in the pop world. So much so that the love song is kinda seen, by a lot, I think, as a bit of a cliche. I mean, boy meets girl has been done so many times.
As for poetic lyrics, the band Primordial I find have some really great ones, especially on the last two albums To the Nameless Dead and The Gathering Wilderness with standouts being "Empire Falls," "As Rome Burns," "No Nation on Earth," "End of All Times" and "The Coffin Ships." Lyrical themes explore the forgotten of history, the vanishing of cultures, dismay at widespread political apathy and of course, Irish history (they are from Ireland).
Some of the later lyrics from Emperor can be thoughtful as well, dispensing with the cartoonish satanic imagery of early black metal. Ihsahn's solo project's lyrics even more, as well as his and Ihriel's albums with Peccatum.
There's more to metal than just "F*ckin br00tal!" stuff. It can be a diverse genre.
Totally agreed and I'll raise you one:
I think many metal heads are a bit AUTISTIC.
As in they go BERSERK if you rearrange the furniture.
Cases in point (older bands):
Jason Newsted never really accepted by many Metallica fans - as in those fans never really grasping that Cliff DIED. Cliff forever, etc.
Will DuVall not accepted by Alice In Chains fans - again, Layne is DEAD. The other guys didn't want to crawl into the grave with him. But again, Layne forever, etc.
It's funny.
I think many metal heads are a bit AUTISTIC.
As in they go BERSERK if you rearrange the furniture.
Cases in point (older bands):
Jason Newsted never really accepted by many Metallica fans - as in those fans never really grasping that Cliff DIED. Cliff forever, etc.
Will DuVall not accepted by Alice In Chains fans - again, Layne is DEAD. The other guys didn't want to crawl into the grave with him. But again, Layne forever, etc.
It's funny.
Metallica - Nothing else matters
Testament - Return to serenity
Bullet for my Valentine - Say goodnight maybe Tears dont fall too?
well those are the ones i can remember right now
I dunno, in those cases maybe yeah. But a lot of bands I listen to change lineups all the time. Emperor, for instance, had two different drummers and three different bassists over the course of their career.
I believe most names of the Norwegian black metal scene mostly originate from various demon/devil names in the Christian faith. Im talking OLD SCHOOL stuff.
Although, I was watching Return of the King yesterday and could have sworn that Aragorn states that they "Must help Frodo get across the plains of Gogoroth" or something simmilar.
Basically there are 2 things that metal bands usually draw from, Satan and his many minions, or Lord of the Rings.
Don't forget Norse mythology in there. Enslaved and Borknagar are big on that (Borknagar is in fact an anagram of Ragnarok with a B thrown in for good measure). Emperor dabbled in it as well, especially on Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk and Nine Equilibrium.
Gorgoroth is taken directly from Lord of the Rings. It's in Mordor. The name was chosen because they thought it was particularly ugly.
That too. Im sure quite a few metal bands draw from their local myths and legends.
LOL. So I did hear right! I was all like ***?????? Does Aragorn listen to black metal or something????
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]That too. Im sure quite a few metal bands draw from their local myths and legends.
LOL. So I did hear right! I was all like ***?????? Does Aragorn listen to black metal or something????
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Aragorn doesn't just listen to black metal. He plays black metal. That is, when he's not killing orcs and breaking the siege of Minas Tirith. Busy man.
The second picture is actually Samoth, who plays guitar in Emperor and Zyklon and bass on the first Gorgoroth album.
Sure, all those 80's bands. Are you too young or too old to remember. Its not very "metal" to write lovey songs. Listen to Diecast Internal Reveloution or Killswitch Engage the End of Heartache.
