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Thunderbird Club

I'm sure he wasn't the first, just the first I recall seeing. And no telling how long all of these guys were "going fretless" before pics were taken. It's great to see some fretless use in rock.

I actually read some Sheldon's history (he was familiar to me from Tommy Bolin) and it seems he and Kenny were friends from the Colorado area and both started to play fretless roughly at the same time.
 
I like Ampeg, but without question ACC is in no way second to Ampeg IMO. Both are iconic holy grail tone machines. I might even like the older ACC better, but I haven't played on in decades....
tweechy, tweechy……chances are the reason you haven’t played one in awhile is they just didn’t built as many as SVTs…..kinda like the Betamax, it became extinct (like Polytones and for similar reasons)….for the time the concept was excellent but the implementation suffered from a reliability standpoint….
they also had to be AC coupled (by way of a capacitor, not transformer) due to the fact that reliable opposite gender (NPNs I believe) bipolar transistors were not available hence an unbalanced power supply and need for a DC block….
on paper it’s a no contest
the SVT weighs almost 100 pounds more, boasts an extra available 100 Watts and pushes 80 inches of cone vs 18….
 
Definition of what a bass is supposed to sound like in my book.

I bet your mother-in-law would love Kentucky. Not as cold as Mass! And, she could borrow any of my basses any time.

I've brought up bringing them back to Mass many a time, my wife hates the winter, I'm not sure if her mother could handle the long flight(s) though, she broke her hip a couple of years ago and can't walk anymore. I think I'm stuck here for the time being anyway. Kentucky, ever meet either of the Everly Brothers? I ask that of everyone from Kentucky, been a big fan of theirs since I was a kid.
 
Stanley Sheldon was the first person I recall using a fretless maple Pbass in the mid 70s. He might have been second to put those in use for rock.


I think he was also the first well known person I knew that played one. Fender made their first ones in late 1969, that CAR '68 P bass I always talk about had a rosewood fretless P neck on it when I first got it in 1977, the owner said he bought it new with a fretted neck and got the fretless when they were first available, course I ruined it with Rotosounds and lousy technique very quickly.
 
That makes some sense, and it also would explain why an 360 stack has a similar quality. By modern standards, a 360 stack has a coloration. People call them muddy and dark, but those same people generally have similar comments about Thunderbirds. With the bright switch engaged, the original 360 I have isn't exactly bright, but it's detailed. The speaker is an 18, but it is in a chamber in the amp, firing backwards against a w-bin. In effect, it's sealed, although it projects indirectly. I have listened to my ACC 360 stack next to a 'fridge and SVT head. I like the sound of the ACC amp better. It had more blue and green and black in the sound. The SVT and 'fridge had a more dusty brown sound. It wasn't bad, just a bit hoarse sounding to me next to my amp. Whatever the magic is, it works for me.


My SVT has a golden tone :laugh:
 
my buddy’s shop, i repair a whole lot of stuff for the store so i get to take the stuff to gigs when i want……pretty cool that way….during covid we would practice in the show room so you pretty much could play what was there……
was messing around with this the other day, forgot how good these sound…my HS had one…
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I tried out one of those, in super clean shape.
And they've got such a great tone.
Killer little amp, if you can find one.
 
I actually read some Sheldon's history (he was familiar to me from Tommy Bolin) and it seems he and Kenny were friends from the Colorado area and both started to play fretless roughly at the same time.
Interesting to know. I first encountered him with Frampton. Great player and knows when to play, and maybe more importantly when not to play.
 
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"Drinks."
Yea, we don't want to call attention to anything.:laugh:

I think the GK 800RB has to be included with these.
I haven't much experience with GK. My limited experience was likely why I never clicked with their tone (not really big and mids in the wrong place for me--more aggressive maybe). But that could have been me more than the amps. Loved the way they look and did consider them a few times.
 
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