Thunderbird Club

[Bassmike62]

No. He was already on a different path. My guess would be that if he had joined us, he would've left soon after.
(FWIW, we were a no drug usage with a light religious message band)

Still, meeting him...wow.

I watched a ~90 minute video on her. Really interesting history.
I have a friend who bought her then-husband a lesson/session with Ms. Kaye. He wanted to do things "his way". Ms. Kaye 'encouraged' him to leave.

He he he... and head strong too. Gotta love that !

 

[MCF]

I checked earlier and there are many on eBay selling for various prices. They all look to be the exact same product. All have free shipping from China. Pick the cheapest with the best feedback rating and it'll be on the way.

I think we’re walking a fine line with the Talk Bass rules here. Let’s be careful gang.

 

[MCF]

Ok, someone was asking about strap locks before, maybe a hundred or so pages back.

Anyway I think I said I have Dunlop on my Gibby, took another look today and they are actually Ernie Ball.

Pics of the new guard and the locks installed without the strap attached please. I need to do strap locks on the ‘15.

 

[MCF]

We Epiphone players never get anything good...

Except a great sounding, affordable Thunderbird.

 

[MCF]

@JIO
GEO made this exquisite black one….hard for me to decide…..luv’em both…..
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I think a silver logo from Irv on the black one will help you make up your mind.

 

[GonePlaid]

Still, meeting him...wow.




He he he... and head strong too. Gotta love that !

Well, he wasn't him yet, so it was no BFD-at the time.
BTW, as far as influences-even if I didn't know who they were then-Duck, of course, Jim Fielder(BS&T). Mel Schacher, Peter Cetera, and a helluva lot of others.

 

[MCF]

I'd never heard of Jaco, or Jamerson, until probably Scott Devine mentioned them in his YouTube videos that I watched, maybe 3-4 years ago. And Charles Mingus, I had to look him up just now

It's just that where and when I grew up, and the kind of music that exposed me too, those guys were so far out side of that .... Jamerson would be the only one I'd even heard in passing. Even Entwistle....I'd heard a couple of The Who songs, but only what played on the radio by the late 80s, and I didn't know him by name until probably the last decade or so.

I didn't get into music at all before the mid 80s, when I was able to move to stay with my dad, and as a new teenager, if it wasn't some kind of rock or metal, I didn't have much to do with it until probably the late 90s? I guess. Then it was country & alternative rock for a while, then (modern) rock & metal.

Then I started hanging out with you guys

So now I've heard of those guys, and listened to some of their music, but really not my cup of tea for the most part....

It comes with time. My tastes became a lot more eclectic once I hit my forties.

 

[GonePlaid]

The vid of her and Simmons that is out there is all you need to know about how much respect she has in the industry.

Yes. She kinda put him in his place.

 

[MCF]

Happy New Year, Mate! Have one on me, Geoff!


Ok, maybe you'd rather not and have a better option!

I think I know Geoff. He’ll no doubt have a few New Year pints. But I very much doubt any will be a Foster’s.

 

[JJR58]

Yes. She kinda put him in his place.

She sure did!

 

[Ringhammer]

Yes 2011 Gibson.

Pickguard For Gibson Thunderbird w Accurate Screen Gold Logo - Black | eBay

Is anyone aware of anyone that makes the black Thunderbird PG with the logo “engraved” like the original would be?

 

[GonePlaid]

That's OK. I met Jaco in 71-before he became JACO. The band I was in(on keys and sax)was looking for a bass player. We were doing late 60s/early 70s R&R. He came-with an attitude-and either wasn't interested, which he could've said from the get-go, or couldn't play the stuff we were doing(Who, Free, Sly and the Family, etc.). I s'pose that colored my opinion of him from then on. Amazing technician, horrible tone-IMNSHO.
Jamerson I didn't know by name until long after I was influenced by his playing. He-and other studio players-weren't in the credits on albums I bought.

Actual band members would be credited, but rarely studio cats.

 

[Engle]

Well, that's far from a vintage DA pu set-up to begin with - including a much better bridge.

My theory on the stock bridge was that it was designed based on a blurry photo of a Gibson bridge. Quite a few 60’s/70’s MIJ basses have it - usually EB copies. It didn’t actually have mounting studs, but it had holes where they would be. It turned out the spacing worked with a Hipshot 2 point.

 

[GBassNorth]

I'd never heard of Jaco, or Jamerson, until probably Scott Devine mentioned them in his YouTube videos that I watched, maybe 3-4 years ago. And Charles Mingus, I had to look him up just now

It's just that where and when I grew up, and the kind of music that exposed me too, those guys were so far out side of that .... Jamerson would be the only one I'd even heard in passing. Even Entwistle....I'd heard a couple of The Who songs, but only what played on the radio by the late 80s, and I didn't know him by name until probably the last decade or so.

I didn't get into music at all before the mid 80s, when I was able to move to stay with my dad, and as a new teenager, if it wasn't some kind of rock or metal, I didn't have much to do with it until probably the late 90s? I guess. Then it was country & alternative rock for a while, then (modern) rock & metal.

Then I started hanging out with you guys

So now I've heard of those guys, and listened to some of their music, but really not my cup of tea for the most part....

Pretty similar story here.
Best not to confuse “lack of interest” or unaware with “willful ignorance”.
If you think about it, it’s literally impossible to willfully or purposefully avoid knowing something about somebody you don’t even know exists. If I hadn’t ever heard of an individual (Jaco in my case) for the first 50 years of my life its foolish to claim that as “willful ignorance”. Ignorance maybe, unaware definitely, but tagging “willful” on to it is just ludicrous. After you do become aware of the individual, if you choose not to further educate yourself on their history it’s just a plain “lack of interest” or higher priorities.

 

[Engle]

yup, can’t say enough about them….this NY 2 x 12 is good for 800 Watt RMS and only weighs 32 lbs!!
say no more…..
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Hmmm that would work well with my D800+

 

[Engle]

But still he ended up playing short scales for the rest of the seventies excepting that brief fling with Geezer's Rickenbacker*.

*The Ric is on the Hammersmith Odeon gig that was filmed for video and according to Geezer it was only as he had forgotten his usual stage bass and even stage clothes.

I did not know Geezer played short scales in the 70’s

 

[JIO]

I'd never heard of Jaco, or Jamerson, until probably Scott Devine mentioned them in his YouTube videos that I watched, maybe 3-4 years ago. And Charles Mingus, I had to look him up just now

It's just that where and when I grew up, and the kind of music that exposed me too, those guys were so far out side of that .... Jamerson would be the only one I'd even heard in passing. Even Entwistle....I'd heard a couple of The Who songs, but only what played on the radio by the late 80s, and I didn't know him by name until probably the last decade or so.

I didn't get into music at all before the mid 80s, when I was able to move to stay with my dad, and as a new teenager, if it wasn't some kind of rock or metal, I didn't have much to do with it until probably the late 90s? I guess. Then it was country & alternative rock for a while, then (modern) rock & metal.

Then I started hanging out with you guys

So now I've heard of those guys, and listened to some of their music, but really not my cup of tea for the most part....

That's understandable Kara - what I was specifically referring to is those who proudly state not knowing who their instrument of choice pioneers are/were like a badge of honor. Even punk-funk Flee would be the first to acknowledge respect for those innovators of rock, jazz classical and many other musical forms. Because of when I was a young teen ('66-) all of that great music & great players were front & center, and after hearing Bitches Brew by Miles Davis in '69 (which was like taking LSD w/o taking it) - I was catapulted into listing to all sorts of jazz and it's rock derivatives. Like most of my age peers - I feel very lucky.

One doesn't have to 'like' all forms/genres/eras/styles of music, but as a musician - specifically a bass player, a reluctance to educate ones-self of the rich past on the instrument over decades is sad and limiting. One will never know if one like or not likes something until one listens to it. I don't like or listen to Kenny G, but a lot of people do/did and if I were a horn-player, I'd have to acknowledge his presence.

 

[JIO]

That was when we came up to see you.

Ha! I thought he was on his way to see me today!

 

[Bassmike62]

Well, he wasn't him yet, so it was no BFD-at the time.
BTW, as far as influences-even if I didn't know who they were then-Duck, of course, Jim Fielder(BS&T). Mel Schacher, Peter Cetera, and a helluva lot of others.

Mel Schacher... yup. His basswork on American Band is something. Duck too. Less familiar with the other 2, apart from Peter Cetera's amazing voice.
Myself, I tend to be drawn to rock bassists/vocalists, JJ being an exception among them. Guys like Geddy Lee, Michael Anthony, Paul McCartney, CF Turner (BTO) and also Breen LeBoeuf, a Franco-Ontarian that moved to Montreal in the 70s and to hold the low-end for the band Offenbach, a band who mostly did french-language hard-rock, with an occasionnal english outing. He wasn't the main singer in that band (Keyboardist Gerry Boulet was, as well as BL) and they were never well-known outside the french-canadian market, but these guys rocked it as solid as it came and Breen even backed Celine Dion at one point later in his career, that's how good a singer he is. I'm nowhere these guys of course and simply associating myself with such a lot could be considered blasphemy, but I work hard at providing both solid bass and decent backvocals in the current band (Journey, Loverboy, BonJovi et al covers) and the occasional main vox in other projects, so these guys are what I'm shooting at. Lifelong process .

Breen sings this one lead (english)
Someone on the Line - YouTube

As well as this one (french)
Offenbach - L'ultime - 11 - Rock De V'lours - YouTube

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Her father's going to have fun lugging those heavy boulders of amps around, I suspect his back and spine are going to hate him, lol.

I’m guessing that was sarcasm?