Thunderbird Club

[Haji]

Ah know who ah aymm! Ahm the dude playin' the dude disguised as anothah dude!

 

[Count Bassie]

Do you have a name for this well regarded individual or is it another step in my search?

Rob van den Broek, I believe. Confirm with @TBird1958 ....

 

[Count Bassie]

oh wait, wasn't that another line? My bad

No, I'm culturally semi-literate at best. My comment was, haply, obvious.

 

[ubernator]

PLAYAH! Swingin' to the knees

No more flying coach tugger, you can have G-5.

I think of that whenever I drive past a Gulfstream building, LBC airport has a few.

He can have a G5, I would rather have an F5, but 4.5 gen updates. Maybe get to escort Bruce and Ed Force One

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

Rob van den Broek, I believe. Confirm with @TBird1958 ....

That is correct thanks. Found the book and a couple good websites.

 

[Nocturnal]

That is correct thanks. Found the book and a couple good websites.

Rob is also the man behind getting the Bach NR Thunderbirds built.

 

[Gaolee]

True, they're designed for people who have no technical skills and no desire to learn any, think Apple knows best and are willing to pay more for less.

Exactly. It's a tool, not a lifestyle.

 

[Stevis]

Exactly. It's a tool, not a lifestyle.

But the "evil genius" of Steve Jobs was designing and marketing the Mac as a "lifestyle appliance". Making it standard to come loaded with iTunes, Garage band and iMovie is/was attractive to users (as opposed to buying similar software in addition to cost of PC). And the aesthetics of design are also indicative of a lifestyle brand. I was once a PC guy and I first got drawn into "the creep" (of "cult") of Apple product ownership via my iPod. Then, I "needed" an iPad. Then, I "needed" an iMac (cause they look so George Jetson). Then, I "needed" a Macbook. I did draw the line at what I see as the insane price of an iPhone. And I don't use Apple TV.

I am not arguing that a Mac is better than a PC (or vice versa). But the point where they went from changing the name Apple Computer to simply "Apple" was part of a vision that changed the B-2-C side of the industry. I think they forced the industry to up its game too. For example, I see a lot more of my students using Microsoft Surface products, which offer some cool bells and whistles.

And I agree with @Gaolee that, at the end of the day, computers are a tool. I use it to crunch numbers, write stuff and create presentations. But for some reason, my Apple gear seems to keep the tools in my hands for more hours in the day than it should. And my ADHD brain likes "point and click" (in much the same way it is averse to reading instruction manuals). Like the wonderful old XTC song, "I am the Mayor of Simpleton". So, the wiring of Apple stuff is not "better" than PC - just better for my wiring. And I take endless amounts of ribbing from our guitar player, who is a computer programmer.

 

[Gaolee]

I must be immune. I'm not in IT, and I use the computer as a typewriter, communication tool, and calculator for large, complex and variable calculations. Other than that, it's for hanging out on TB and running Cubase. Nothing much else. As long as it works, it's just an appliance. I have a Dell that's some indistinct number of years old. More than five, less than ten. I don't know beyond that. When it's ten, I probably won't notice as long as it still works.

And I'm completely shallow and influenced by appearances in most other ways. Go figure.

 

[PillO]

But the "evil genius" of Steve Jobs was designing and marketing the Mac as a "lifestyle appliance". Making it standard to come loaded with iTunes, Garage band and iMovie is/was attractive to users (as opposed to buying similar software in addition to cost of PC). And the aesthetics of design are also indicative of a lifestyle brand. I was once a PC guy and I first got drawn into "the creep" (of "cult") of Apple product ownership via my iPod. Then, I "needed" an iPad. Then, I "needed" an iMac (cause they look so George Jetson). Then, I "needed" a Macbook. I did draw the line at what I see as the insane price of an iPhone. And I don't use Apple TV.

Preface: I am not involved in the computer industry in any way.

It is intriguing that what attracted you was the bundling of software with the hardware. The same behaviour that got Microsoft into trouble with DOJ; it was pushed as an anti-trust problem. (no value judgement, just appears to be unequal application of the law; IANAL and don't care enough to debate the merits of the case)

I am not arguing that a Mac is better than a PC (or vice versa). But the point where they went from changing the name Apple Computer to simply "Apple" was part of a vision that changed the B-2-C side of the industry. I think they forced the industry to up its game too. For example, I see a lot more of my students using Microsoft Surface products, which offer some cool bells and whistles.

And I agree with @Gaolee that, at the end of the day, computers are a tool. I use it to crunch numbers, write stuff and create presentations. But for some reason, my Apple gear seems to keep the tools in my hands for more hours in the day than it should. And my ADHD brain likes "point and click" (in much the same way it is averse to reading instruction manuals). Like the wonderful old XTC song, "I am the Mayor of Simpleton". So, the wiring of Apple stuff is not "better" than PC - just better for my wiring. And I take endless amounts of ribbing from our guitar player, who is a computer programmer.

I take an equal amount of ribbing for having assessed my technology needs, and, as I was already invested in the Windows environment, chose to get the original Surface (the one with an ARM processor). It can't run anything but store apps, but it is incredibly useful when I travel, as it has Word, Excel, Powerpoint, and Outlook; the programs in which I do 95% of my work, is useful for individual presentations, and many years later still has several hours (6+) of battery life. And again being invested in the windows environment, I also use a windows phone. For me, it all works together seamlessly and meets all my technology needs. I feel no 'need' for an iPhone or google phone.


Separately, is there a nice way to tell an elderly parent "RTFM" and "I can't see your computer, so I don't know what "thing" you are talking about" and "perhaps you are now too old to use a computer"? I can't trouble shoot a problem described as: I clicked the thing and it told me to save the file and then when I clicked it, it disappeared. Is it just me or has the ability to apply descriptive language really fallen off in the last couple of decades?

 

[DerekW]

Apple fanboy checking in...

Just drink the silver Koolaide and get over it, it's just easier that way.

Actually, the iPhone prices ARE getting out of hand, and I believe the new MacBook Pro is also a fail, even photographers, who have long been vocal mac supporters, are revolting against the latest USB-less model.

 

[Korladis]

That pretty much sums up my experience with printers too....

I usually print stuff at workshop instead.

I hate printers. I'd rather go somewhere else and have them print something than endure the headache of owning one.

I'm not the guy, but I've noticed that Gibson is one of those companies with loose records, loose books, and "adjustable" manufacturing specs that digress according to what they might find access to, etc., on the spot. It's an organization rife with rumor and legend, and apparent "short runs" of this and that.

(Did you find this review helpful?...)

So, in other words, Gibson is not a very well run company.

 

[bylar13]

Pick up question: I have a set of Lollar T-bird pick ups that currently have black covers. If I switch them to chrome covers would anyone know how the covers are attached? Simply the existing screws or is there something in addition, like glue etc.?

 

[Dadagoboi]

Pick up question: I have a set of Lollar T-bird pick ups that currently have black covers. If I switch them to chrome covers would anyone know how the covers are attached? Simply the existing screws or is there something in addition, like glue etc.?

If they're metal the covers are soldered to the base plates. The screws are just for attaching the pickups to the bass.

 

[bylar13]

Wow, hate, really? As much as silk on strings? How about toasters? Microwawes? Landlines? Those SF hills, I could probably hate those if iI had to climb them every day...but I did like living on Russian Hill. Except for the parking


If they're metal the covers are soldered to the base plates. The screws are just for attaching the pickups to the bass.

Thanks!

 

[ricardol]

Now I run the little tiny Class D stuff. Right now it's two TC-E BG250's stacked and AB'ed together (2 - 10's and a 115, 500 watts total, 39 lbs each x 2) and I just got a Rumble 500 (2 - 10's @ 350 watts, with another 210 cab it's 500 watts, about 36 lbs each). 500 watts into 4 - 10's is freaking loud, at least as loud as the Old School stuff I used to schlep around (so volume isn't an issue) and WAY easier to haul around. I like to think of it as working smarter as opposed to working harder. No offense intended to you Old Schoolers, have at it. Just be sure to keep up your core strength and protect your backs.

One of the TC-E's BG250 Vs one Fender Rumble 500, which one do you suggest buying?

 

[redstrand]

Love my v3 rumble 500 combo

 

[BklynKen]

I have a Ritter gigbag for one of my Thunderbirds and a Ritter HSC for my Fender Blacktop P - They are nice gigbags and cases and were dirt cheap and way less than $100 each...

Yeah, I had one of those and was thrilled to get rid of it. At least for protection around the NYC subway, it was awful.

 

[redstrand]

I hooked an ampeg 15 to it as well..super fat

 

[Korladis]

Going to use my T-bird at rehearsal tomorrow, probably at the show next saturday as well.