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Thunderbird Club

I miss my old car.

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The 1st car my brother & I owned/shared - $250 in '69 (10 yrs old then) This is a pic I found on line - but it looked very much like that when we got it. It was owned by a doctor used by his daughter.

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The favorite car I've owned (long gone) - '66 122s Volvo estate wagon - mine had a nice original chrome roof-rack but otherwise was identical to this pic. Died a hard death in Chicago (winters).

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My first car was one of these (in yellow no less). It died because it could not be cost effectively repaired any longer. It had the newer 1600cc engine (with Bosch electronic fuel injection) producing a whopping 40ish BHP and 4 on the floor transmission. It was terrible; it had the handling of a large truck and acceleration not quite as good as that large truck fully loaded. At full speed, it had difficulty breaking any speed laws on the highway. It had the one great advantage that everyone thought that with the engine in the back, the trunk was in the front. But, because it had the pancake engine, there was also a trunk in the back; a trunk in which beer could be stored for consumption at lunch time in high school.

If I saw one at a reasonable price, I would be very tempted to buy it. Fortunately, I think they have all rusted to pieces so there is no temptation.
 
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My first car was one of these (in yellow no less). It died because it could not be cost effectively repaired any longer. It had the newer 1600cc engine (with Bosch electronic fuel injection) producing a whopping 40ish BHP and 4 on the floor transmission. It was terrible; it had the handling of a large truck and acceleration not quite as good as that large truck fully loaded. At full speed, it had difficulty breaking any speed laws on the highway. It had the one great advantage that everyone thought that with the engine in the back, the trunk was in the front. But, because it had the pancake engine, there was also a trunk in the back; a trunk in which beer could be stored for consumption at lunch time in high school.

If I saw one at a reasonable price, I would be very tempted to buy it. Fortunately, I think they have all rusted to pieces so there is no temptation.
An Uncle had one of those, a Type 3 2000 TLE from memory. In VW beige.

I used to see a wagon regularly in bright blue. I still like it. Surfie wagon?
 
I struggle a little with "Shooting Brake" for a rakish wagon. ^ more Brit than Aussie that one.
Probably, like most these terms, goes back to the coach building terminology from horse & carriage days.

The first few Holden wagons were badged as "Station Sedans". Classier I assume, eventually fell in line with the others. Stations, of course, being what the Australian landed folk 'cockies' own, not ranches.
 
Pulled into the driveway at 12:15 AM after a full day of amusement park activity and was sound asleep by 12:30. The alarm went off at 4:30 and I hit the shower to get my arse to work for 6 AM. I will try to remember to do this today but today, my employer and TB aren't getting the best I usually have to offer.



I'll get measurements and pics... hopefully today after work.

Nah man... don't worry about that today. Just get through yer day without killin' or dyin'... have a nice meal with your family, & fall asleep in front of the TV. I'm fairly certain that's protocol...

Thanks for the pass, Fix. I took a nap when I got home so when I got up I took the time to take a couple of pics and measurements.

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1.625" at the nut. The string bed is 1" deep at the nut and I'd definitely call it a C shaped neck.

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I do love the way this 5 string looks so here's a pic for all to check out. I do have the original PG but I like the look of this one better. If I sold her, both PG's would come with.

A '68 Camaro convertible that I bought as a rust bucket in 1980. I have blown it up twice, changed the transmission twice (once from powerglide to four speed, and then just because I broke it), and replaced the rear end once. It hasn't had an easy life, but now it's all painted and fixed, except the motor isn't quite bolted down, and things like reconnecting all the parts and pieces hasn't been done either. I'll probably forget something dumb like a grounding strap and then have a terrible time figuring out why it won't run when it finally gets more or less completed. Things like that are never finished anyway.

You had me at Camaro! That's my favorite GM muscle car from '67 to '73 and 2010 to now.

Sounds like a childhood dream coming true. Can you share one of your designs or atleast hint at it?

It was very exciting to hire into GM's former Fisher Body Engineering Group. Fisher Body was renamed to GM Die Engineering in 1988 and I was hired in 1990. But the old Fisher Body guys were still there and in fact we still had WW2 vets working there and not all from the Allied side. Lots of Germans, and Italians with heavy accents. If they liked you, they'd teach you. I miss all those old timers and now the guys that were on the younger side are the older guys now.

As for the work that I do, I don't design the cars or the car panels. I do the engineering that turns flat sheet metal into car panels and throughout my career I've had the pleasure of working in many different departments in die design.

I was able to be a part in Cadillac's resurgence. I did all the engineering on the CTS bodyside panels. All three interations thus far. It was nice to have them come back to me for gen 2 and 3 because of my teams success and our technical knowledge of the prior programs.

I've worked on all the truck programs from pickups to SUV's and most recently the crossovers known as the Lambdas which are the Traverse, Acadia & Enclave which killed the minivans and Jimmy style SUV's.

My favorite program was bringing the Camaro back in 2010. It was so exciting to bring back my favorite muscle car with a team of my peers knowing how well it was going to be received from all the automotive press that were buzzing with anticipation from the first whispers of its return. I also got to do the 2016.

Of course I did a bunch of work on less impressive vehicles like minivans, cargo vans and econoboxes. But sprinkled in there, there were cool projects like the SSR and the Hummers(I did the doors on the H2).

I'm not sure if this is urban myth material but I always 'heard' that it was done to allow it to race at Daytona (had to be a based on a production car) Someone owns an orange one locally - I see it on the road every now and then driven by a lady. It always makes me smile.

Very true. I loved NASCAR of the 70's and 80's and watching cars that drive down the road racing on Sunday. I still like NASCAR today but it's just not the same thing with the commonizing of car templates and taking the automakers out of it for the most part.
 
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Thanks for the pass, Fix. I took a nap when I got home so when I got up I took the time to take a couple of pics and measurements.

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1.625" at the nut. The string bed is 1" deep at the nut.

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I do love the way this 5 string looks so here's a pic for all to check out. I do have the original PG but I like the look of this one better. If I sold her, both PG's would come with.



You had me at Camaro! That's my favorite GM muscle car from '67 to '73 and 2010 to now.



It was very exciting to hire into GM's former Fisher Body Engineering Group. Fisher Body was renamed to GM Die Engineering in 1988 and I was hired in 1990. But the old Fisher Body guys were still there and in fact we still had WW2 vets working there and not all from the Allied side. Lots of Germans, and Italians with heavy accents. If they liked you, they'd teach you. I miss all those old timers and now the guys that were on the younger side are the older guys now.

As for the work that I do, I don't design the cars or the car panels. I do the engineering that turns flat sheet metal into car panels and throughout my career I've had the pleasure of working in many different departments in die design.

I was able to be a part in Cadillac's resurgence. I did all the engineering on the CTS bodyside panels. All three interations thus far. It was nice to have them come back to me for gen 2 and 3 because of my teams success and our technical knowledge of the prior programs.

I've worked on all the truck programs from pickups to SUV's and most recently the crossovers known as the Lambdas which are the Traverse, Acadia & Enclave which killed the minivans and Jimmy style SUV's.

My favorite program was bringing the Camaro back in 2010. It was so exciting to bring back my favorite muscle car with a team of my peers knowing how well it was going to be received from all the automotive press that were buzzing with anticipation from the first whispers of its return. I also got to do the 2016.

Of course I did a bunch of work on less impressive vehicles like minivans, cargo vans and econoboxes. But sprinkled in there, there were cool projects like the SSR and the Hummers(I did the doors on the H2).



Very true. I loved NASCAR of the 70's and 80's and watching cars that drive down the road racing on Sunday. I still like NASCAR today but it's just not the same thing with the commonizing of car templates and taking the automakers out of it for the most part.
Did any Holden make it through to the production 2010-> Camaro ? I'm guessing no. :)

I used to love the sedan racing in Australia growing up. But the more they move away from production the less I like it.

My first car was a 1969 Holden Kingswood sedan, white with gold roof. Bench seats, 186ci 6 cylinder with Powerglide 2 speed Auto. Loved it.
My current car is a 2015 VF Holden Calais sedan in white. Love it also. You guys may know it as the slow and soft version of the Chev SS, or a shorter version of the Chev Caprice cop car (but more 'fancy pants' than the cop car)

Add: I currently have my Dads old Commodore 'Vacationer', he bought in 1984or5 when he retired. Pacific Blue, 253ci V8, auto, air, 4 wheel discs, cord seats. Lovely. Currently rotting in the garage.
 
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Very true. I loved NASCAR of the 70's and 80's and watching cars that drive down the road racing on Sunday. I still like NASCAR today but it's just not the same thing with the commonizing of car templates and taking the automakers out of it for the most part.

I used to be attracted to anything "cars" (car shows, races on TV including demolition derby's etc) when I was a teen. My favorite was the 24 hrs of Le Mans - I responded to the epic quality and the team-work of the drivers. The Steve MacQueen "Le Mans" is a favorite both because of him and also the theme/subject and how it was depicted. I don't 'follow' cars anymore - for me they are a necessary evil for going from point A to point B - that's all. The Tour de France (just ended for '17) is my only professional sport TV obsession. (no motor involved)
 
I struggle a little with "Shooting Brake" for a rakish wagon. ^ more Brit than Aussie that one.
Probably, like most these terms, goes back to the coach building terminology from horse & carriage days.

The first few Holden wagons were badged as "Station Sedans". Classier I assume, eventually fell in line with the others. Stations, of course, being what the Australian landed folk 'cockies' own, not ranches.


Now I know where the name "Station Wagon" came from.
 
Did any Holden make it through to the production 2010-> Camaro ? I'm guessing no. :)

I used to love the sedan racing in Australia growing up. But the more they move away from production the less I like it.

My first car was a 1969 Holden Kingswood sedan, white with gold roof. Bench seats, 186ci 6 cylinder with Powerglide 2 speed Auto. Loved it.
My current car is a 2015 VF Holden Calais sedan in white. Love it also. You guys may know it as the slow and soft version of the Chev SS, or a shorter version of the Chev Caprice cop car (but more 'fancy pants' than the cop car)

Add: I currently have my Dads old Commodore 'Vacationer', he bought in 1984or5 when he retired. Pacific Blue, 253ci V8, auto, air, 4 wheel discs, cord seats. Lovely. Currently rotting in the garage.

It's my understanding that the Camaro was new from the ground up for its platform but then again if they stretched or shrunk a Holden platform, I may or may not have been in on the info.

As for the Holdens that have made it to our shores, the Pontiac GTO's and the Chevy SS's have been niche hits and well received. Nice cars for sure. :thumbsup:
 
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I used to be attracted to anything "cars" (car shows, races on TV including demolition derby's etc) when I was a teen. My favorite was the 24 hrs of Le Mans - I responded to the epic quality and the team-work of the drivers. The Steve MacQueen "Le Mans" is a favorite both because of him and also the theme/subject and how it was depicted. I don't 'follow' cars anymore - for me they are a necessary evil for going from point A to point B - that's all. The Tour de France (just ended for '17) is my only professional sport TV obsession. (no motor involved)

Totally with you. I was obsessed with cars and motorcycles growing up. "Then Came Bronson" is my all time favorite TV show, after "The Man From Uncle." Read everything and anything. MOPAR, Suzuki, and Husqvarna. Nothing else, except of course music, mattered. Music stuck, but cars and cycles long since left my world. My brother is a car designer and has had five of his designs put into production. I'm no longer impressed. It has been a long time since I've been obsessed. Heck, I'm an old guy perfectly happy with Subarus. But I still get a kick out of watching "Grand Prix" with James Garner and "Le Mans." I thought Ron Howard's "Rush" was fabulous. I even liked that Tom Cruse NASCAR movie several years ago. I was also a Tour de France addict since the Lemond years, until the drug scandal. I just can't watch it any more. Just call me a grumpy old guy.