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Thunderbird Club

I wouldn't go that far...

I still like and respect Alice because his music is good, he continues to pay his old bandmates, he has a knack for finding exceptional musicians to back him, and he doesn't take himself too seriously. But the golf thing is hard to understand.

It's his addiction. Took the place of alcohol according to an interview he did.
 
Active pickups I have tried in the past have sounded 'sterile' or maybe 'hi-fi' or clean and 'full range' - the Epi pups sounded 'shut in' and simultaneously lacked bottom or high end sparkle, while also sounding mid-scooped.

I completely agree with @D.M.N.'s point about output not being the be all and end all, but you would expect that active electronics would have more 'go' in them.

Anyway it's a lovely bass now, with no original parts apart from the wood, TRC, PG, control cavity cover and some screws, for an all up cost of $USD700-ish.
I'd call that a win!:thumbsup:
 
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B, do indeed block him. I did a little while back and it has made things more enjoyable. I also wouldn't give him a plug nickel for anything he built strictly because of his attitude. He promptly let me know my money or business wouldn't be missed and I take pleasure in knowing I haven't bought that into his b/s.

Amazing actually. I won't bother to block, but if and that's a BIG IF- I had any interest in exploring his builds- There would be a snowball chance in Hades of that- i.e. "Nip" Basses- he edited it out, but no difference.
I have a bass built by Michael Stevens who is acknowledged as one of the World's best- For real.
http://www.stevensguitars.com/news/

During the build of my Slant 4, we communicated well, and despite his client roster, he treated me like a valued Customer. It took (2) years to get my bass, it was worth it.

This guy- Cataldo- I believe his "ire" and snark was instigated because he saw my pics of Japanese-built T-bird styles, which- by Atelier-Z, Kaminari, and Psychedelic- make his look like the parts basses they are. He felt threatened, Too bad.
Years back, I looked at his work, and the issues brought up in the thread here on TB were a big red flag. I'll pass.
I've had (2) Lull T-birds, they didn't work for me either, but the pups were great.

The Thunderbird body is a work of art, and a group like this that shares the love is very cool- But that type of nonsense from people who must be very disgruntled in their personal lives. Too damn bad.
Thanks for the heads-up; pretty obvious to me to stay away. After all, why wouldn't any builder say something of the sort like:
"Hey, please take a look at what I'm doing! I think you would like my approach, etc!"
Instead of....
What he said:cool:
 
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I get it, you don't like fancy topwoods. I don't either, but...
Try & imagine that build in a nitro finish. Go ahead. I sure can.
Now-

(Putting on flame suit)

From my experience with TUNE and many other Japanese builds, that Psychedelic Version of a T-Bird would, well, it would crush just about anything Gibson makes, quality-wise tone-wise otherwise.
YMMV
Nothing personal, no disrespect for any Gibson/Epiphone fan-atics,, but I stand pat on that!

OK, proceed to bash....
Been busy (playing golf today, hey I'm retired, gotta do somethin) and trying to catch up on this dang fast moving thread.

Anyway, my preference in basses is typically in fancy woods and finishes. I have dozens of top end fancy schmancy basses in my collection. But oddly enough, for some reason I can't explain, the TBird design just doesn't appeal to me in quilted or spalted or Burl or 5A Curley maple or a lot of other fancy options that look great on virtually every other bass design. YMMV, and that's cool, but for me a cool paint job maybe with some pinstriping or a subtle flamed maple visible thru a tinted gloss body stain would be perfect. So yes, I can imagine that bass in a nitro color and I'm sure it would rock.

Would it crush anything Gibson makes, quality/tone/or otherwise? Last I checked there wasn't any general consensus on which bass is the best bass in the world (well, maybe the mothman bass is near the top). So I kinda gotta disagree with you on the "crush any Gibson" comment.

Look at my tagline, it's there for a reason, it's a fundamental truth. A bass is a tool. Like any tool, some can be cheaper than others or built stronger than others or be more popular than others but at the end of the day it's still a tool. And all that really matters is having the right tool for the job. If that right tool for you is a Japanese bass, that's cool but don't assume that's the right tool for everybody. I can easily envision settings where a $300 Eppi Goth would be a better selection for me than a fancy top TUNE bass, or situations where a TUNE might be a better option than a much fancier and much better built and much more expensive Alembic TBird. Just sayin.
 
In Thunderbucker news ... spent some time last night fiddling with pickup height. Both basses now have the same 'voicing' but different tonal palettes as you might expect given differences in timbers, bridge/tail and construction. The Epiphone sounds better than you could ever have imagined at the beginning, with the soggy cardboard active pickups/electronics.

Maybe some new tone colors can be introduced, such as Magenta and Cyan.
 
No thanks, about the "reporting back" aspect.
It's a shame how some "Thunderbird" fans represent themselves, you included.
I clearly stated no dis-respect for Gibson/epi.
I don't care to babble about vintage etc and the great T-Birds of the past.
I thought it was an interesting offer I posted, how Japanese builders of quality "honored" an iconic American shape with their builds, and I hear drivel by a 2nd-Class Indy builder about too many knobs on "Nipponese" basses.

You can take back your wonderful pride about this club, at least for some of the lot. Others- they respond with maturity and courtesy- Good on them.

You:
Seriously, grow up.

Take a breath.

I'm quoting your post, and you are the one that might do some growing up.
You stated that this particular Japanese bass would "crush" a Gibson yet offered nothing as proof or evidence, I simply called you on it, and you have nothing to back up your statement.
Evidently you're not actually going to buy the bass you seem to like so much so what exactly are you trying so hard to prove?
I see no point in comparing a mass builder bass to a boutique builder's one, Sadowsky vs. 7ender anyone?
Insulting other participants hardly helps your cause, which at best was thinly veiled antagonism. Which I take to be the real point of your recent posts here.
 
Been busy (playing golf today, hey I'm retired, gotta do somethin) and trying to catch up on this dang fast moving thread.

Anyway, my preference in basses is typically in fancy woods and finishes. I have dozens of top end fancy schmancy basses in my collection. But oddly enough, for some reason I can't explain, the TBird design just doesn't appeal to me in quilted or spalted or Burl or 5A Curley maple or a lot of other fancy options that look great on virtually every other bass design. YMMV, and that's cool, but for me a cool paint job maybe with some pinstriping or a subtle flamed maple visible thru a tinted gloss body stain would be perfect. So yes, I can imagine that bass in a nitro color and I'm sure it would rock.

Would it crush anything Gibson makes, quality/tone/or otherwise? Last I checked there wasn't any general consensus on which bass is the best bass in the world (well, maybe the mothman bass is near the top). So I kinda gotta disagree with you on the "crush any Gibson" comment.

Look at my tagline, it's there for a reason, it's a fundamental truth. A bass is a tool. Like any tool, some can be cheaper than others or built stronger than others or be more popular than others but at the end of the day it's still a tool. And all that really matters is having the right tool for the job. If that right tool for you is a Japanese bass, that's cool but don't assume that's the right tool for everybody. I can easily envision settings where a $300 Eppi Goth would be a better selection for me than a fancy top TUNE bass, or situations where a TUNE might be a better option than a much fancier and much better built and much more expensive Alembic TBird. Just sayin.

The TBird was designed by an automotive designer, that's why it looks better painted, you wouldn't want your Lincoln looking like a tree would you? :roflmao:
Much agreed overall though.
 
NOTHING can make golf cool.
Au contraire, my southern hemispherical thunder goddess! Alcohol! Enough alcohol can make anything cool! If alcohol alone doesn't do it, the addition of a motorcycle will! It's a li'l game I like to call booze polo!;)
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