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Thunderbird Club
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Skwar is just how it's said around that neck of the woods.
Have a Precision, love it. Have a Squier Jazz. Love how it plays, absolutely hate how it sounds. I'll either sell or give to a nephew. I've been jonesing for a Ric lately.
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@BklynKen , the measuring has been done.
Reverse - 7 lbs. 15 oz., length approx. 49"
NR - 8 lbs. 3 oz., length approx. 49"
There are lots of differences in the bodies but generally it comes down to the NR just being thicker.
Reverse - 7 lbs. 15 oz., length approx. 49"
NR - 8 lbs. 3 oz., length approx. 49"
There are lots of differences in the bodies but generally it comes down to the NR just being thicker.
Your inclination to throw a red flag is legit!First off thank you @Dadagoboi for the knowledgeable input, sincerely appreciated.
Shortly after purchasing this bass I had the nut replaced and the setup done by the same shop that later told me it would need a full fret job to fix this one buzz. When I got it back after the nut replacement it didn't buzz - HOWEVER the action was high and the bridge was set WAY high in the rear with the front very low (was told that was what he had done to get rid of the buzz), exactly opposite what I've read here about how a 3-point should be set up. I redid the setup myself to get the bridge proper and the action low where I like it, the one buzz came back. Talked to the guy about it, he didn't agree with what I'd stated about how a 3-point should be set up which seems a bit of a red flag to me, guess this is part of the reason I wanted to call BS on the fret job. Now to his credit he's set up 2 other basses for me and they were spot on. Just seems weird that he went so far off script on the 3-point bridge setup.
Guess I'll be getting a fret job on it soon... The bass is definitely worth the investment, cheap bastard that I am just hate to sink another $100 in a (originally) $225 investment (which with a $100 case and the $120 i spent on the nut replacement and the first time setup is now up to Could-Have-Bought-A-New-One range). Yeah, I know...
If your luthier had your three point bridge in a full frontal tilt and claimed that's how it's supposed to be set up and is the only way to get the buzz out, then he's dead wrong and really doesn't have a clue about proper Gibson/Eppi care. He may know plenty about basses and guitars in general and might be a setup wiz with a FSO bent metal plate bridge but that does not translate to the three point bridge design.
When talking Three point bridges, either you know how to work on them or you don't. Yes, the front stud has to be higher than the two rear studs. Yes, each saddle is unique to each string position (can't swap the G and D saddles without effecting the string radius alignment with the FB). Yes, you should slacken the strings a bit before raising or lowering any of the studs (unless you want to muck up the screw heads or possibly pull the thread inserts out of the body). Yes, the two rear studs can be at different heights to fine tune buzz out but the difference should be very minimal if necessary at all. And Yes, the bridge will fall to the floor in pieces if you remove all the strings and then flip the bass over.
Find another luthier for your baby, she deserves the best.
True.
Kind of why I sold my J-bass. It was my first bass ever that I got in high school. That was the only reason it was hard to sell it.
It's a venue in San Francisco. Not really a night club.
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Gaolee
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Gawd, you sound almost Australian.Nothin' wrong with a li'l funetikl spelling amongst friends
Gaolee
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The first bass I owned was the worst bass I ever owned. Good riddance! I don't miss it a bit. Those who say you should never sell your first one are right sometimes. Not always.
True.
Kind of why I sold my J-bass. It was my first bass ever that I got in high school. That was the only reason it was hard to sell it.
Dammit!!! I just found out I gotta go to Florida to get a friend outa there before Irma hits
I'm guessing the ride south will be pretty smooth sailing, heading north in a day or two is going to be nightmare, you'd better get a move on!
on sunday I finally tried the Tbird live... well... I'm still so excited that I have goosebumps when I talk about it. I really really don't know how I managed to live as a bass player all these years without a Thunderbird.
I'm not over-reacting, that's the fun thing! I've had something like 30/35 basses, I lost the count at a certain moment in my life... I had basses for just a couple of days, bought and sold during a weekend, tried in a reharsal or a gig and got rid of them.
Fender, Warwick, Ibanez, Cort, Danelectro, Hohner, Hofner, G&L, Musicman, Squier, Sterling... lots of basses, different kind of basses, years of gigs...
then I went to the gig last sunday, with a Markbass CMD121H, a Korg Pitchblack as a tuner, a couple of jack and the Thunderbird in it's huge case (pictures added
), in order to play some Blues Brothers, Commitments, Aretha, Dusty Springfield, Joe Cocker... this kind of set.
just as I played the first note, wow, my legs melted, and my guitarists turned around.
the soundguy was happy with it, nothing to do, and my soundcheck lasted less then a minute.
I played the entire two hours set switching pickups depending on the song, which is a thing I rarely do because usually I find the bridge pickup to be too dry and thin (even on a Jazz with flats), the neck pickup too muddy and both pickups the best choice.
in this case I switched between the three "positions" depending on the song, and the bass was always perfect in the mix.
last thing I loved is that every member of the band "heard" the bass. for example, the trombonist came to me after the gig and told me that he loved the fills I did on that particular song... well... it's been three years since we started this project, and I usually do mostly the same parts so for the first time in three years he heard the bass, and so did some other member.
plus: it's ultra light, but it looks heavy: my guitarists thought it was heavy, but then I lend it to them... featherlight.
the neck-dive it's not that bad, because the design of the body leads the right arm in a position where it always keeps the bass standing.
I felt free with the left hand, and didn't have a problem at all. (PS: I use the Ernie Ball nylon strap. with a leather/suede/gripped strap it's even better).
now I'm waiting for a Gibson SG Faded (worn cherry) from 2010 I just bought it yesterday and it should arrive in a couple of days, and sold the Warwick Streamer, with it's thin and metallic sound! ahahahha!
I'm not over-reacting, that's the fun thing! I've had something like 30/35 basses, I lost the count at a certain moment in my life... I had basses for just a couple of days, bought and sold during a weekend, tried in a reharsal or a gig and got rid of them.
Fender, Warwick, Ibanez, Cort, Danelectro, Hohner, Hofner, G&L, Musicman, Squier, Sterling... lots of basses, different kind of basses, years of gigs...
then I went to the gig last sunday, with a Markbass CMD121H, a Korg Pitchblack as a tuner, a couple of jack and the Thunderbird in it's huge case (pictures added
), in order to play some Blues Brothers, Commitments, Aretha, Dusty Springfield, Joe Cocker... this kind of set. just as I played the first note, wow, my legs melted, and my guitarists turned around.
the soundguy was happy with it, nothing to do, and my soundcheck lasted less then a minute.
I played the entire two hours set switching pickups depending on the song, which is a thing I rarely do because usually I find the bridge pickup to be too dry and thin (even on a Jazz with flats), the neck pickup too muddy and both pickups the best choice.
in this case I switched between the three "positions" depending on the song, and the bass was always perfect in the mix.
last thing I loved is that every member of the band "heard" the bass. for example, the trombonist came to me after the gig and told me that he loved the fills I did on that particular song... well... it's been three years since we started this project, and I usually do mostly the same parts
so for the first time in three years he heard the bass, and so did some other member. plus: it's ultra light, but it looks heavy: my guitarists thought it was heavy, but then I lend it to them... featherlight.
the neck-dive it's not that bad, because the design of the body leads the right arm in a position where it always keeps the bass standing.
I felt free with the left hand, and didn't have a problem at all. (PS: I use the Ernie Ball nylon strap. with a leather/suede/gripped strap it's even better).
now I'm waiting for a Gibson SG Faded (worn cherry) from 2010
I just bought it yesterday and it should arrive in a couple of days, and sold the Warwick Streamer, with it's thin and metallic sound! ahahahha!Attachments
Thanks so much, Larry. Your NR is about what my Reverse weighs. And the length being the same means it would fit in my Gator. I think the project is a go! Assuming I find a Pelham Blue....
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Yes, pretty much. There were two Music Mann basses as well, one was an original Stingray, the other a Cutlass and in both cases the necks were stellar, they played really well but that non existent G string and a lot of "clackiness" was a real turn off. They didn't sound good with a pick either. Anyway, I've have a total of 5 FSO's and feel they've had a fair shake in my hands as I kept each of them well over year. But, to be clear that's just me, what anybody else plays and loves isn't my business.
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You all are so funny looking for any way possible to disassociate tribes... it's a font (what-ever...)
And to preface, I started in '71 as a Gibson player, first an EB-3 and then a '63 T-bird. I tried to like Fenders (sorry, I'm not afraid to use F) but back then the necks were fat and the coating was thick and I loved the way my T-bird neck felt and also the way it sounded. It was my only bass for many, many years. Since then I finally found Fenders I like and own/play more of them than Gibsons by a long shot. But I don't rag on Gibsons because of it and love and play both flavors. All this anti-Fender scribe is cute, but pretty juvenile doncha' think?
I stopped in at local GC over the weekend and saw/played a Musicman Cutlass. I was drawn to the funky pickups. It is a nice bass but really just a variation on a P-bass IMHO. So, I found a similar set of the funky looking pickups on sale and going to put them on one of my P-basses.
Pickup pole size matters!?!
I do it cause I find it funny. I even pronounce it "seven-der" cause it bugs my buddy. I'm not afraid to say Fe… Fen… Fend… 7enderYou all are so funny looking for any way possible to disassociate tribes... it's a font (what-ever...)
I play my fender quite often around the house because it's already beat up so I'm not worried about anything happening to it, ie my dog bumping into it.
I hope that goes well man. I guess there's no way to avoid surgery then?
