Thunderbird Club

[Christine]

I see what you're saying. But at the same time, if a dimension is only good to .01" how will a machine determine if it's .010" or .019", that's where variation from the CAD drawing happens. And in written program, I've seen CNC'd nylon that was out over .035", it was completely due to the written program. The programmer used climb milling instead of conventional, but also only dimensioned to one decimal place (again, Imperial) (took a far bit of marks off that group project).

The machine doesn't determine any variation, that's purely as a result of either wear in the machine or a lose workpiece. The program for a Tbird for example would be quite complex so making an assumption it wouldn't be changed ad-hoc, I would think that given that Scott's white VP was smaller than the VSB then that would indicate an intentional difference in the program, or a mis-set tool/tools. I can't see a mistake on one guitar and not the other due to a programming error, why would you change a perfectly good program without reason

Machines in production environments tend to be a lot more sturdy than those found in smaller shops, another assumption I'm making is that the makers of the birds are using a reasonable robust machine, direction of cut is less critical, finish and or dust control tends to be the deciding factor

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

If you're thinking about the white bass he sold Jeff, that was a Classic Pro he put the Badbird Bridge on.

as opposed to what other model?

 

[Larry V]

as opposed to what other model?

The Vintage Pro he posted about.

 

[godofthunder59]

I'm surprised at the dimension difference between two VPs given the automated production processes, it's almost as if they have changed the settings on the CNC program to create a more noticeable difference between the Epiphone and Gibsons

My thoughts

Why? Are Badbirds just meant for 60's 'Birds?

Yes.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

The Vintage Pro he posted about.

o capito

 

[godofthunder59]

Some do, some don't on a same model bass? Sounds wonky..

Almost all 60's Thunderbirds will not intonate on the upper register due to limited travel of the saddles or it being installed on the wrong spot, either description gives you the same result. I designed and manufactured the first Badbird bridge in 1983. I started manufacturing in 2003
The Badbird installs without modification " intonation without modification " is my mantra. The Badbird has been accepted by collectors and professionals alike. You might recognize this guy .

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Almost all 60's Thunderbirds will not intonate on the upper register due to limited travel of the saddles or it being installed on the wrong spot, either description gives you the same result. I designed and manufactured the first Badbird bridge in 1983. I started manufacturing in 2003
The Badbird installs without modification " intonation without modification " is my mantra. The Badbird has been accepted by collectors and professionals alike. You might recognize this guy .View attachment 3001275

Very cool. Yeah saw that. Saw your TV interview too.

 

[Larry V]

Almost all 60's Thunderbirds will not intonate on the upper register due to limited travel of the saddles or it being installed on the wrong spot, either description gives you the same result. I designed and manufactured the first Badbird bridge in 1983. I started manufacturing in 2003
The Badbird installs without modification " intonation without modification " is my mantra. The Badbird has been accepted by collectors and professionals alike. You might recognize this guy .View attachment 3001275

Did you have an issue getting your, now Jeff's, Classic Pro to intonate properly or did you just swap it out because you liked the look with the tail claw and your Badbird on there?

 

[godofthunder59]

Did you have an issue getting your, now Jeff's, Classic Pro to intonate properly or did you just swap it out because you liked the look with the tail claw and your Badbird on there?

Jeff's has the Badbird II, my replacement for the three-point bridge, completely different application than the Badbird.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

It was actually built by John Diggens of Jaydee guitars . John built Jim's original bass while working at Birch in the 70's. John even offered to replicate the JB logo but I insisted on the Jaydee brand. Jim with his bass and mine just before itg was completed. View attachment 2999286 View attachment 2999286

I LOVE JDs. Wanted one for so long. I prefer them to Alembics. Who's the girl?

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Jeff's has the Badbird II, my replacement for the three-point bridge, completely different application than the Badbird.

Does the Badbird II need the tailpiece?

 

[Christine]

Jeff's has the Badbird II, my replacement for the three-point bridge, completely different application than the Badbird.

I have a Badbird II on my bumperbird, a couple of pics, one in construction and one finished (I think)

 

[Christine]

I LOVE JDs. Wanted one for so long. I prefer them to Alembics. Who's the girl?

The girl is the totally brilliant bassist from Slade, Jimmy Lea

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

I have a Badbird II on my bumperbird, a couple of pics, one in construction and one finished (I think)View attachment 3001279 View attachment 3001281

I love that bass. The bridge is BIG. Does it need the tailpiece or does it have holes to feed the string?
Is that 'Bird sitting to your left a 76?

 

[Larry V]

Did you have an issue getting your, now Jeff's, Classic Pro to intonate properly or did you just swap it out because you liked the look with the tail claw and your Badbird II on there?

Jeff's has the Badbird II, my replacement for the three-point bridge, completely different application than the Badbird.

Fixed my prior post and still curious if you had an issue getting the Classic Pro to intonate properly?

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

The girl is the totally brilliant bassist from Slade, Jimmy Lea

Ooops!, sorry..

 

[theFixer]

I find myself buying the "Greatest Hits" for bands that I may have missed adding into my collection when they were popular. I liked them then but didn't buy them at the time.

If I did that, I'd have a MASSIVE collection of greatest hits comps! I'm sure there must be more, but off the top o' my head, I can only think of 3 bands/artists that I picked up when they were new & popular. Stevie Ray Vaughan, the Black Crowes, and Jane's Addiction. Seems like there's a 15 year minimum waiting period before my brain develops a taste for most things. Even bands like STP, Breaking Benjamin, Clutch, Pantera & A7X... bands that, in terms of electric music, are "new"... it seems I either don't hear them, or don't develop an appreciation for them, until there's a thick coat of dust on 'em. It's not a conscious choice... I just don't select the music I'm gonna listen to, until it hits me the right way. I reckon I have slow ears...

 

[Christine]

I love that bass. The bridge is BIG. Does it need the tailpiece or does it have holes to feed the string?
Is that 'Bird sitting to your left a 76?

No holes so you need the tail piece but it looks cooler than the 3 point and the whole thing is very solid and sounds awesome

No sadly not, a chromed up classic pro

 

[GBassNorth]

Did everyone go through the pics?

In case you hadn’t, the seller has committed a faux pas.



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Nice bass otherwise.

In my best stoned Surfer voice - Surfs up dude, hang ten!

 

[GBassNorth]

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He must be playing an open A string. You can see the notes floating all around him.