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#98,144
Markamb1 said:
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What are you confused about? What I’m describing? Imagine your e string has a circular radius within which it’s vibrating.... nice low end....bassy, loose... loud.... bright....then you tune it it up a bit back to pitch for E. as soon as you do that radius tightens in vibrates in a smaller circle.... less low end not as bassy, not loose...noticeably tighter... not as loud and dead...it vibrates in such tight circles quietly after the initially pluck or pick.... Thant you’re not sure it’s still sounding.... until you touch it... and it actually stops... it’s like there is a very aggressive compressor effecting your sound but it’s the string.... for the first time I notice the string winding is ahead or in front of the bridge saddle not behind. Must change tone but it it’s enough ahead that it was never behind you know? The tuning didn’t change that. Just weird wondering if any9ne else knows. They’re extra slinky’s but all of a sudden the e doesn’t feel so slinky.

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For starters, I'm no expert on this kinda thing But; it looks like you could move the E saddle forward enuff to clear the winding. Obviously that will affect the tuning. However, the lower the pitch, the less critical the tuning is-to the listener. You might notice it but most people in the audience won't. And it also will depend on how far up the E string you play. I rarely if ever go above C on the E. In fact-to me-Db sounds strongest on the A.
 
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Markamb1 said:
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What are you confused about? What I’m describing? Imagine your e string has a circular radius within which it’s vibrating.... nice low end....bassy, loose... loud.... bright....then you tune it it up a bit back to pitch for E. as soon as you do that radius tightens in vibrates in a smaller circle.... less low end not as bassy, not loose...noticeably tighter... not as loud and dead...it vibrates in such tight circles quietly after the initially pluck or pick.... Thant you’re not sure it’s still sounding.... until you touch it... and it actually stops... it’s like there is a very aggressive compressor effecting your sound but it’s the string.... for the first time I notice the string winding is ahead or in front of the bridge saddle not behind. Must change tone but it it’s enough ahead that it was never behind you know? The tuning didn’t change that. Just weird wondering if any9ne else knows. They’re extra slinky’s but all of a sudden the e doesn’t feel so slinky.

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Forget the problem with the string... that's the coolest up close pic I've ever seen of a TBird!

That pic has so much character, it just screams mojo and back story. Would make a fantastic album cover for a Lynard Skynard or Motley Crew type cover band.

I can just picture zooming out from that close up and seeing spent Jack Daniels bottles, smoldering cigarettes, leather vests and biker boots with chains strewn about the wood floor along with a pair of black stilettos and skimpy silk lingerie draped over a black leather sofa. Ok - enough of that!

What you need to solve your string problem is the three point bridge mod bar. It pulls the ball ends back far enough so the string overwraps don't rest on the saddles. An inexpensive fix... GIBSON® EPIPHONE® BASS BRIDGE 3-POINT (MOD-BAR!) | eBay
not positive but someone in the club may also be selling these or something like them.
 
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GBassNorth said:
Forget the problem with the string... that's the coolest up close pic I've ever seen of a TBird!

That pic has so much character, it just screams mojo and back story. Would make a fantastic album cover for a Lynard Skynard or Motley Crew type cover band.

I can just pucture zooming out from that close up and seeing spent Jack Daniels bottles, smoldering cigarettes, leather vests and biker boots with chains strewn about the wood floor along with a pair of black stilettos and skimpy silk lingerie draped over a black leather sofa. Ok - enough of that!

What you need to solve your string problem is the three point bridge mod bar. It pulls the ball ends back far enough so the string overwraps don't rest on the saddles. An inexpensive fix... GIBSON® EPIPHONE® BASS BRIDGE 3-POINT (MOD-BAR!) | eBay
not positive but someone in the club may also be selling these or something like them.
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Clearly not from the south....it's Lynyrd Skynyrd!....:D
 
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Chucky Stiletti said:
Clearly not from the south....it's Lynyrd Skynyrd!....:D
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Well, I did say cover band. But you're correct, this boy isn't from the south. Just a huge LS fan from way back, born in the SF Bay Area and grew up in northern and southern CA as well as Denver and Boulder CO and worked in Cincinnati while living in Northern KY for 35 years. Most don't consider KY the south, that starts at the southern border of Tennessee. Some call it mid west, some call it mid Atlantic, some call it Appalachia, some call it rust belt, some call it horse country, but few call it the south.
 
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Markamb1 said:
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What are you confused about? What I’m describing? Imagine your e string has a circular radius within which it’s vibrating.... nice low end....bassy, loose... loud.... bright....then you tune it it up a bit back to pitch for E. as soon as you do that radius tightens in vibrates in a smaller circle.... less low end not as bassy, not loose...noticeably tighter... not as loud and dead...it vibrates in such tight circles quietly after the initially pluck or pick.... Thant you’re not sure it’s still sounding.... until you touch it... and it actually stops... it’s like there is a very aggressive compressor effecting your sound but it’s the string.... for the first time I notice the string winding is ahead or in front of the bridge saddle not behind. Must change tone but it it’s enough ahead that it was never behind you know? The tuning didn’t change that. Just weird wondering if any9ne else knows. They’re extra slinky’s but all of a sudden the e doesn’t feel so slinky.

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I would take a ball end from an old string and slide it down to the Ball end of your E string as a spacer.
 
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GBassNorth said:
Well, I did say cover band. But you're correct, this boy isn't from the south. Just a huge LS fan from way back, born in the SF Bay Area and grew up in northern and southern CA as well as Denver and Boulder CO and worked in Cincinnati while living in Northern KY for 35 years. Most don't consider KY the south, that starts at the southern border of Tennessee. Some call it mid west, some call it mid Atlantic, some call it Appalachia, some call it rust belt, some call it horse country, but few call it the south.
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I live in the South...of Canada. We do have a lot of rednecks that drive lifted 4x4s in my town.
 
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Markamb1 said:
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What are you confused about? What I’m describing? Imagine your e string has a circular radius within which it’s vibrating.... nice low end....bassy, loose... loud.... bright....then you tune it it up a bit back to pitch for E. as soon as you do that radius tightens in vibrates in a smaller circle.... less low end not as bassy, not loose...noticeably tighter... not as loud and dead...it vibrates in such tight circles quietly after the initially pluck or pick.... Thant you’re not sure it’s still sounding.... until you touch it... and it actually stops... it’s like there is a very aggressive compressor effecting your sound but it’s the string.... for the first time I notice the string winding is ahead or in front of the bridge saddle not behind. Must change tone but it it’s enough ahead that it was never behind you know? The tuning didn’t change that. Just weird wondering if any9ne else knows. They’re extra slinky’s but all of a sudden the e doesn’t feel so slinky.

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I'm assuming it's related to the winding across the bridge. That's definitely suboptimal.
 
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Count Bassie said:
Lucas factor?
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although these are very nicely constructed and sound fantastic, English electronic design has long suffered from from a poor reliability stigma..
as @GBassNorth pointed out, Lucas was/is (?) an English car electrical systems manufacturer (similar to Bosch) that was known for goosey products and largely responsible for the bad rap otherwise excellent English sports/luxury got in the 60s and later..

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Chucky Stiletti said:
although these are very nicely constructed and sound fantastic, English electronic design has long suffered from from a poor reliability stigma..
as @GBassNorth pointed out, Lucas was/is (?) an English car electrical systems manufacturer (similar to Bosch) that was known for goosey products and largely responsible for the bad rap otherwise excellent English sports/luxury got in the 60s and later..

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I have heard about their reliability issues. But i never had a problem with the one i had.
 
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Chucky Stiletti said:
although these are very nicely constructed and sound fantastic, English electronic design has long suffered from from a poor reliability stigma..
as @GBassNorth pointed out, Lucas was/is (?) an English car electrical systems manufacturer (similar to Bosch) that was known for goosey products and largely responsible for the bad rap otherwise excellent English sports/luxury got in the 60s and later..

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Ah yes, the old joke:
Why are there no British computer manufacturers?
Couldn't figure out a way to get oil to drip out of the hard drive.
 
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