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Thunderbird Club

Is Texas Country different to regular Country? Or is it just because it’s done by Texans?

I think you’d have to define what you mean by “Regular Country” first. To me that’s the “Old Country music” like Hank Williams, Merle Haggard, Loretta Lynn, etc.

As a non-native Texan, my understanding is that Texas Country grew out of a resentment of what many perceived as the “Nashville Machine” that was cranking out country music in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s that wasn’t representative of what Texans liked and Texas country artists weren’t well accepted in Nashville at that time. Texas artists and fans of the period essentially said “screw you Nashville, we’ll invent our own style of Country music” and thus Texas Country was born. I feel like the style and musical differences between Nashville and Texas Country have increasingly become blurred but one big difference I’ve noticed is that Nashville has more readily embraced blending Country music with Rock and Hip-Hop whereas Texas tends to stay closer to the train beats, root fifth bass lines and chicken-picking Tele sounds. Again, this is just my born-Yankee-living-in-Austin perspective as explained to me by many native Texas Country musicians I’ve played with.

Personally I really like both Nashville and Texas Country music styles as well as the “old” or “traditional” Country music, but I’m something of a rare bird here. I’ve noticed that when I’m in Nashville NOBODY has anything bad to say about Texas Country (and many even ask me why more Texas Country artists don’t come to Nashville to play shows), but when in Texas the majority of people I’ve met can’t hide their disdain of Nashville Country artists (and some even feel personally threatened by what they perceive as Nashville’s influence on country music).

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I recommend that people watch the video. It is not nearly as obnoxious as is stated in the thread. When I watched it, I saw nothing that put me off.

I would also suggest that putting up the video for a couple of days then taking it down again may be part of a strategy. The video delivered the message to the intended audience while it was up. I would also speculate that it is a direct result of something ongoing about which we know nothing.

I think the strategy here is to demonstrate a willingness to enter into prolonged court proceedings should license issues not be settled/reach an impasse. I also think that Gibson has pockets deep enough to credibly drag on court proceedings to financially harm a potential infringer. Gibson does have registered trademarks, so the onus is on the alleged infringer to show that the trademarks have been vacated. Gibson, like it or not, is still a very valuable brand. To maintain the value of that brand, they must prosecute infringements.

What is amusing to see is the usual TB over-reaction and Gibson bashing. Some things will never change.

I haven't watched the video, but I did read direct quotes. I'll chase the video down and watch when I have time. I also read more than that one article.

I'm a fan of Gibson guitars, and the company when they act in a good manner. As far as I could tell, they were screwed over by the feds on wood; I backed Gibson then. But they have filed against Armadillo (parent of Dean) - which is fair, albeit absurdly late - but it sounds on the surface to be over-reaching. I'd love to know their basis for the allegation of "trademark counterfeiting".
 
Right now I’m using the Dunlop Super Bright Stainless. 45/105 set. These were the safe bet, since I like their Nickels on most of my other basses, and I wanted a little more bite.

A few gigs in and they’re doing alright. A couple more this weekend and I’ll see how they’re holding.

I’ve got a grocery list of others to try, but I’ll go a month or so before moving down the list. Good suggestions from all here.
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Those SS Super Brights are the only rounds i can get along with. They lasted about 3 months.
And for me and rounds, that seems like an eternity.
 
My old Centurian is at my drummer’s house, so I brought a 210AV cab over to run it for a rehearsal. Although they matched in height, it’s not a great combination for tone. I probably should have kept my Acoustic 106 cab...
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My old Centurian is at my drummer’s house, so I brought a 210AV cab over to run it for a rehearsal. Although they matched in height, it’s not a great combination for tone. I probably should have kept my Acoustic 106 cab...
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Yeah, the venerable 106. Smallish by ACC standards, but a good box.
 
I haven't watched the video, but I did read direct quotes. I'll chase the video down and watch when I have time. I also read more than that one article.

I'm a fan of Gibson guitars, and the company when they act in a good manner. As far as I could tell, they were screwed over by the feds on wood; I backed Gibson then. But they have filed against Armadillo (parent of Dean) - which is fair, albeit absurdly late - but it sounds on the surface to be over-reaching. I'd love to know their basis for the allegation of "trademark counterfeiting".

I am by no means an expert in intellectual property, but I do know enough to ask my IP counsel very insightful questions.

I was not aware that Gibson was in the middle of a dispute with Armadillo/Dean. That being the case, I would judge my assumption that the video was aimed at a party with whom they have a dispute to be fairly accurate. I know little/nothing about Armadillo, but it appears to be a small group trying to execute a roll up of music related businesses (sound familiar?). I will double down on my position that it is a bargaining tactic aimed at reaching a deal backed by the threat of expensive litigation.

I will also posit that Dean is a target for a number of reasons, not least of which is that Gibson expects a favourable template deal.
 
I am by no means an expert in intellectual property, but I do know enough to ask my IP counsel very insightful questions.

I was not aware that Gibson was in the middle of a dispute with Armadillo/Dean. That being the case, I would judge my assumption that the video was aimed at a party with whom they have a dispute to be fairly accurate. I know little/nothing about Armadillo, but it appears to be a small group trying to execute a roll up of music related businesses (sound familiar?). I will double down on my position that it is a bargaining tactic aimed at reaching a deal backed by the threat of expensive litigation.

I will also posit that Dean is a target for a number of reasons, not least of which is that Gibson expects a favourable template deal.

If you are correct, the video was a dumb way to do it. Such things are almost guaranteed to cause you problems. Gibson has plenty of avenues to put people on notice. If they really wanted to use a public video, it could have been handled much better.

WRT rollup, yeah, like many have done- including to a small extent Gibson. Not sure what that has to do with anything, other than Gibson's owners sensing more money now.

It may be a "bargaining chip" but it's an obnoxious bullying approach. That kind of crap pisses me off, whether it's an individual, a gang, a corporation, a politician, whatever. It's uncivil discourse. Take the high road, people.
 
I have a hard time finding the "cringe".
Yeah, I'm not sure what everyone is up in arms about. So, a company is reminding the world to not steal from them, big deal. I don't get why this is even news. People seem, more and more, to relish being able to find something to b!tch about and get it all over the internet... e.g. the starbuck's cup in GOT
*shrug* damn kids, get off my lawn! :rage:
 
I'm using a Portaflex 350. Just for quiet home practice and disturbing the neighbours. I keep thinking that I need to get one of these:
Vox - MV50 AC Miniature 50W Amplifier

I also keep thinking that I will eventually get an Orange Bass Terror.

Are there any amps that don't make a bird sound good?

I picked up an Orange Tiny Terror for about $100 use a while ago, yes the one for guitar, the birds roar! I love it!
 
Yeah, I'm not sure what everyone is up in arms about. So, a company is reminding the world to not steal from them, big deal. I don't get why this is even news. People seem, more and more, to relish being able to find something to b!tch about and get it all over the internet... e.g. the starbuck's cup in GOT
*shrug* damn kids, get off my lawn! :rage:

Gibson is, AFAICT, really pushing the definitions of "counterfeit" and "forgery". Both of those are construed to be "with intent to deceive or defraud". Sure, if you make an exact copy and slap a Gibson (or very similar) logo on it, or even leave the log off, then you have a forgery case. But (AFAIK) Dean has never tried to make you think they were producing anything but their own guitars. A Dean V Series is clearly not a Gibson Flying V. Are many design elements similar, even identical or extremely close? Of course. Trademark infringement. Go for it.[1] But counterfeit and forgery are absurd. This is lawyers trying to redefine things to line their pockets, IMO. (No, not all lawyers. Just the scummy acting lawyers. Etc.)

I have zero problem with people protecting their intellectual property. I have plenty of my own, and I'll protect it. And I certainly don't hate Gibson; they have always made very cool guitars (and some cool amps I wish they had marketed better). Firebirds and Thunderbirds are some of my favorite guitars of all time. But I have a problem with corporate bully tactics.

And it was still a stupid way to go about it, because OF COURSE it was going to garner bad publicity. Maybe the net will be positive for them. I have no idea. But they've knocked yet another hole in their public goodwill.

[1] Although they should have gone for it ***40 years ago***.
 
I picked up an Orange Tiny Terror for about $100 use a while ago, yes the one for guitar, the birds roar! I love it!
I know exactly what you're talking about. I don't remember which, but I played through a small Orange guitar amp at a gig once and the Thunderbird sounded amazing. I never even turned on my overdrive.