The fool guitarist shouldn't be playing guitar. Or any instrument for that matter.
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The fool guitarist shouldn't be playing guitar. Or any instrument for that matter.
Good name for a punk band...
Awesome cab, yes.
I guess as long as your hands aren’t really dirty for the first couple of applications of sweat palm gunk, it might be ok. It didn’t work out for me as at the time I was probably spending my days dressing network cables that had been through ceilings and dragged across floors.
I’ve done tung oil a number of times and it’s a nice “barely there” finish for the back of the neck.
Hey folks. I’ve been out for a while, but thought I’d update you all on my continuing TBird adventures.
Lollars rock. Got me where I want to be sonically. TBird can be my all-night-bass, crossing from Sly Stone to Rush.
Finally broke down and got a Gator Dual gig bag. Free returns, so no risk, but it’s a keeper.
See below post from another thread...
Lollars rock. Got me where I want to be sonically. TBird can be my all-night-bass, crossing from Sly Stone to Rush.
Finally broke down and got a Gator Dual gig bag. Free returns, so no risk, but it’s a keeper.
See below post from another thread...
Following up from my prior post.
First impressions and comparison of the Gator P-G 2X to the Mono M80 Dual:
- Gator is long enough for my 2018 Gibson TBird without any stress on the headstock. Yay!
-More storage space than the Mono M80 Dual.
-Totally removable shoulder straps via metal carabiners as opposed to the Mono, on which the straps are sewn at the top, with plastic clasps at the bottom.
-Gator has a lift handle on the front of the bag. Mono has a lift handle on the back, above the shoulder straps, and none on the front.
-Both have a well padded carry handle on the side.
-Gator exterior fabric appears more coarse, possibly more durable, but too soon to tell.
-Main Zippers on the Gator feel less smooth, although they appear to be the same size as the Mono. Could be that the Mono is just well worn. But the teeth appear to be identically sized, as are the pulls.
-Both use some sort of micro fleece on the interior.
-Padding thickness around the perimeter of both bags appears identical, however, the Gator has a removable two inch wide bumper on the bottom. Removing this allowed for the TBird to fit.
-Gator has both bass compartments opening from the left side, on the side of the carry handle. Mono has the top bass compartment opening on the left, bottom opening on the right. Gator stores both basses facing outward, back to back. Mono has both basses facing the front of the bag, so it’s back to front. I don’t know how I feel about that yet. When the Gator case lays on the floor, lying on its back, the bottom bass is face down. It seems more logical to have the bass resting on its back, but perhaps it’s an advantage to be able to remove both basses from the same side, with the case resting with its right side down. Time will tell.
-The Gator appears more “boxy”. The Mono is “rounder”, and in my opinion, more stylish having a contrasting color around the front storage compartment.
As of my first impression, the Gator is superior, and cost me $220. The Mono currently sells for $330.
Both bags shown below, each containing two basses. Gator also has all my spare cables, extra strings, tools, DeOxit, and assorted gig stuff.
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I use it on necks with no issues - you brush the 1st coat on and wipe it mostly off. Point is that it is absorbed into the wood. Soft sand, wipe each additional coat on with a soft lint-free rag, soft sanding between. Very thin - still feels like wood and seals the pores. As long as it's fully cured - anything can go on top. A common mistake is too thick a 1st coat of nitro which will be more likely to activate what's under it. Light coat of nitro, second coat also light which should homogenize it - choose your tact from there whether you want to wet-sand to keep it smooth or apply the 3rd coat first. A thin even coating is your friend.
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they still do call them mistakes
I once did an Americana gig with a (very drunk) drummer who sang bgv’s. During a cover of a Tom Waits song, I was playing the third below the root a lot as a passing tone to the 4 chord. Very common. The drummer started YELLING into the microphone “Mark!!! You’re playing the wrong note!!!” He continued this yelling for the entire song. I still occasionally chew him out for it even though that gig was probably 8-10 years ago
Excellent comparison! I had similar impressions as you with the single bags. I find the Gator superior because of most of what you said, especially storage space. Plus the much lower price tag. You're paying more for less with the MONO.
A classic trio of overindulgence. Absolutely love it!
Yes. I hope the Gator bag turns out to be as durable.
I’ve been using that Mono bag for several years. I’ve abused every zipper, handle, strap, and compartment without a failure. And it still looks great. If the Gator wears as well, then they’ve overtaken Mono by a big margin.
The other thing I liked about the Gator was the movable neck support. The Mono is fixed, although it has a cool Velcro strap that captures the bass neck. But with the movable support, you get a lot of flexibility for different basses and body types.
It should. I've been lugging around my Thunderbird in the NYC subway in it for years. It's banged into low-hanging stuff more times than I care to remember and it still looks almost new.
None of the previous mentioned songs hold a candle to the brilliance of "Some Velvet Morning," a Lee Hazlewood/Nancy Sinatra masterpiece. I dare any gigging band on talkbass to play that one at a gig. I triple dare ya! 
Cut low end or not, sounds great for a rough. You guys rock.
Why not gun stock oil it like EBMM?
I really like the basic Gator hard case I use for my Ps. They make great products at fair prices.
My local L&M is awesome. A few months back, I told them that I am looking for a cheap cab to keep at my brother's place - preferably a 210 or a 115. Since it won't get a lot of use, I was looking for cheap - around C$200 - and at that price, I don't think I can be fussy about looks.
Friday I got a call. They got in a used Mesa Boogie 410 Road Ready cab and they have put it on hold for me. Price C$250.
Today, I went in to take a quick look (I didn't have a lot of time to play through it) so I put C$50 down to hold it. I'll try it in a day or two and make a decision.
For reference, the Road Ready Boogies look like this:
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It is a cab built in a road case. I was expecting it to be quite ugly but it looks like it has been toured but hasn't lived a terribly hard life. Two of the drivers have been replaced.
So, has anyone had any experience with these? Any thoughts on them? Anything you think I should find out about it?
Friday I got a call. They got in a used Mesa Boogie 410 Road Ready cab and they have put it on hold for me. Price C$250.
Today, I went in to take a quick look (I didn't have a lot of time to play through it) so I put C$50 down to hold it. I'll try it in a day or two and make a decision.
For reference, the Road Ready Boogies look like this:
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It is a cab built in a road case. I was expecting it to be quite ugly but it looks like it has been toured but hasn't lived a terribly hard life. Two of the drivers have been replaced.
So, has anyone had any experience with these? Any thoughts on them? Anything you think I should find out about it?
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None of the previous mentioned songs hold a candle to the brilliance of "Some Velvet Morning," a Lee Hazlewood/Nancy Sinatra masterpiece. I dare any gigging band on talkbass to play that one at a gig. I triple dare ya!
Some Velvet Morning is definitely one of those songs. Somewhat in the mode of Ennio Morricone but theatrical for sure. For the record the Vanilla Fudge covered it. My band would entertain doing it considering our material - but for songs in that mode what is usually needed is someone with superior chops to sing in that 'over the top' style of vocalizing. For me that's why I enjoy it because singers who have that power and range (I'm now talking about Mark Stein - VF/Windmills of your Mind) are blowing the roof off the song, beyond 'good tastes' or reserve. Nina Hagan singing "My Way" is another example. For NH - it comes from her playfulness dealing with her outrageous vocal talent/gift. (punk sensibility with actual talent)
Actually, after listening again to SVM by NS/LH - I may see if the band would be interested in playing it. Thanks!
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That was a really fun video!
Another nice thing about the Gator is smacking people when they get in your way.
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