For @TBird1958 and @Gaolee: There is a really great pic of Cape Disappointment at Bing today (Tues). I need to get out there one day. It looks wonderful and it seems some of the people out there aren't half bad either!
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Thunderbird Club
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(snicker)It takes practice. I often have to deal with a lot of people who are convinced they know more than they actually do. They make the fatal assumption that what they know is really all there is to know and alternative/other facts just can't possibly be true--because they don't hold them. I come from Dutch and German decent and a family full of engineers and lawyers, and a little Irish thrown in. So I can be as absolutely as argumentative and bull-headed as anyone when it's something I know. In those cases, backing down is unknown territory for me (until it becomes evident the other is uninformed but has highly overestimated their knowledge or intelligence and rational thought is lost on them). Then you know it's a lost cause and are wasting valuable time. I've had to work on not using the nuclear option too soon before just unloading and ending things. I've mellowed (i.e., matured) with age. Otherwise I would have been banned from TB a long time ago in my responses to some comments I would really like to "comment" on, shall we say.
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I hadda try it.....once.
Every once in a while we get to play on a huge (guessing 100' x 50') concrete stage yet we practice in a relatively small space. It is a whole different dynamic when you walk out there and the end monitors are over 50 feet apart. Last time I suggested that we should sorta 'huddle-up' so we could actually communicate. Sound guy wasn't amused.
intimate venues are great, but there’s something cool about the butt dance not only being optional, but requiring effort to get to where you can.
What's a "sound guy"?(we're our own)
I think the worst stage experience I recall was years ago. It was a large elevated (25' or so off the ground) stage in a park on the Ohio River. It was not horribly deep, but really long. Seeing and watching each other was not happening. I was on one end and the main guitarist was at the other far end. Visual ques were difficult and the monitors were not at all what were were used to. A supplied back line made it even worse. Fortunately we were well rehearsed and did what we normally did.
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It's less assuming a lack of intelligence and more the realization that many people do not follow politics closely or at all. Look at how many people didn't know what "quid pro quo" meant until it was reduced to "bribe". Even if some have heard the term CU, they might not be aware of exactly what it represents. Not to mention that the specific naming of it "Citizens United" was deliberately aimed at having the mildly informed think it is a good thing for citizens. It's all a bit deeper than is on the surface.
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In this situation, in-ear monitors seems like a necessity.
Critical thinking is a lost art.
Someone's always critiquing my thinking.
This is all too confusing now
Tell em your dad was a cop. They wont want you.
I understand what you are saying, and that generally the populace is less informed than maybe some of us who spend a fair amount of time reading--not only views representing our positions, but that of those with whom we disagree to ensure we have a robust view of all relevant data. I was just saying I try not to assume (can't know for sure what a given person may have access to information wise, statistics aside) without talking with them. I fully agree with you that people are generally ill and often misinformed. Largely because they lack the interest (because they assume they are knowledgeable), and secondly because they consume outlets of information with which they only tend to agree. That's not how research or serious search works. So I agree with you that people are all too often ill-informed, but I was trying to make a little different point about how I try not to assume anything about any specific individuals. General trends aside, I really don't know about the person next to me without some significant conversation. And the misnaming of bills/laws to make them sound to mean something they don't actually do is a play on the ignorance of people you speak of.
I particularly like the mislabeling of things like The People's Army, Hall, etc. Yeah, it's their's alright.
Oh yes, Thunderbirds are wonderful and I'll be playing one this weekend!
Me Too!I understand what you are saying, and that generally the populace is less informed than maybe some of us who spend a fair amount of time reading--not only views representing our positions, but that of those with whom we disagree to ensure we have a robust view of all relevant data. I was just saying I try not to assume (can't know for sure what a given person may have access to information wise, statistics aside) without talking with them. I fully agree with you that people are generally ill and often misinformed. Largely because they lack the interest (because they assume they are knowledgeable), and secondly because they consume outlets of information with which they only tend to agree. That's not how research or serious search works. So I agree with you that people are all too often ill-informed, but I was trying to make a little different point about how I try not to assume anything about any specific individuals. General trends aside, I really don't know about the person next to me without some significant conversation. And the misnaming of bills/laws to make them sound to mean something they don't actually do is a play on the ignorance of people you speak of.
I particularly like the mislabeling of things like The People's Army, Hall, etc. Yeah, it's their's alright.
Oh yes, Thunderbirds are wonderful and I'll be playing one this weekend!
(The THUNDERBIRD part). I enjoy playing dumber than I really am at times just to observe reactions. Ah ain't no jeenyus, but I'm not as dumb as I look.
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Every now and then we talk about Thunderbirds here...
And accoutrements.
Speaking of which, what's your favorite strap width for a THUNDERBIRD ?
And since so many of us don't have an actual sound guy, here are the basics made simple.
Alas, I have no idea who AR is. Possibly the pigeon's mother.
Also, the pigeon wants to grow up to be a silverburst THUNDERBIRD.
Alas, I have no idea who AR is. Possibly the pigeon's mother.
Also, the pigeon wants to grow up to be a silverburst THUNDERBIRD.
Me and my drummer exchanging non verbal communication...
