Thunderbird Club

[PillO]

It's easy to slag on Vince

Yes. Going for the low hanging fruit ...

but I really like his version of this.......Takes it away from being horseback ridin' music rather nicely.

That is a good take on it. I have long been a fan of the original.


More broadly, there are singers from the 80s and 90s that were good back then, but haven't taken care of their voices (maybe they didn't expect to live this long?). In the studio, where they can take their time, spend days preparing, and do multiple takes, they can still sound good. But live, they just can't do it any more. James LaBrie (Dream Theater) clearly isn't what he used to be live, but in the studio still brings it.

There are exceptions. Paul Rodgers still sounds great. Robert Plant can still sing live. He doesn't hit all the high notes anymore; he saves them for where they are needed for impact. Similarly, Geddy took good care of his voice and likewise, needs so save the big notes for when they are needed.

 

[dagrev]

Similarly, Geddy took good care of his voice...

Oh, you mean he can generally still sound the same.

All in good fun boys and girls. Just kidding.

 

[PillO]

Oh, you mean he can generally still sound the same.

All in good fun boys and girls. Just kidding.

I think by the time they got to Farewell to Kings, they thought this rock n roll thing might work out so Geddy eased up on the screeching the high notes in the songs.

 

[dagrev]

I think by the time they got to Farewell to Kings, they thought this rock n roll thing might work out so Geddy eased up on the screeching the high notes in the songs.

Yes, his "voice" did get better. Early on, I'm not sure it would be qualified as a "voice" to be saved!

 

[Engle]

My 1st TBird should be here tomorrow...finally. It feels like forever since I chimed in and told ya’ll I bought one.

Welcome back!

 

[dagrev]

I think by the time they got to Farewell to Kings, they thought this rock n roll thing might work out so Geddy eased up on the screeching the high notes in the songs.

Just idle thinking, but it would have been interesting to be at that first band practice with Geddy as he sings the first song and see everyone's reaction? Wonder who the first person was that said, "Hey, we found our lead singer!"

Clearly it all worked out just fine!

 

[TBird1958]

Yes. Going for the low hanging fruit ...


That is a good take on it. I have long been a fan of the original.


More broadly, there are singers from the 80s and 90s that were good back then, but haven't taken care of their voices (maybe they didn't expect to live this long?). In the studio, where they can take their time, spend days preparing, and do multiple takes, they can still sound good. But live, they just can't do it any more. James LaBrie (Dream Theater) clearly isn't what he used to be live, but in the studio still brings it.

There are exceptions. Paul Rodgers still sounds great. Robert Plant can still sing live. He doesn't hit all the high notes anymore; he saves them for where they are needed for impact. Similarly, Geddy took good care of his voice and likewise, needs so save the big notes for when they are needed.

Paul Rodgers is indeed amazing, I'm a huge fan! His voice seems unchanged from his early days, I saw him on tour with the original lineup of Bad Company as they promoted their first album, so in '74 or '75. Recently I watched this :
Amazon.com: Bad Company: Hard Rock Live: Paul Rodgers, Simon Kirke, Mick Ralphs, Bad Company

What a great show! As it turns out Paul lives here in Washington State in between Seattle and the Canadian border, on this tour he employs Seattle area bassist Lynn Sorenson (he gets lots of camera time due to his great stage presence) and Howard Leese of Heart as a second guitarist to Mick Ralphs. I highly recommend the video if you have Amazon Prime.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Yes, his "voice" did get better. Early on, I'm not sure it would be qualified as a "voice" to be saved!

...poor Rush and Geddy...they really meant well..

 

[GBassNorth]

On a related note, I was going through some of my old vinyl LPs the other day and playing a track or two off of each one. Rush, Boston, Journey, Kansas, Yes, and a few others from the mid to late 1970's. My 30 year old daughter walked into the room and asked, "Did all the male singers back then wear their underwear too tight?"

She had a good point, many of the male singers of the day did in fact sing at a very high pitch. Kinda seems like that continued into the 1980's and then fell out of vogue when Grunge hit. Not sure what style is popular with the current up and coming new rock bands.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

On a related note, I was going through some of my old vinyl LPs the other day and playing a track or two off of each one. Rush, Boston, Journey, Kansas, Yes, and a few others from the mid to late 1970's. My 30 year old daughter walked into the room and asked, "Did all the male singers back then wear their underwear too tight?"

She had a good point, many of the male singers of the day did in fact sing at a very high pitch. Kinda seems like that continued into the 1980's and then fell out of vogue when Grunge hit. Not sure what style is popular with the current up and coming new rock bands.

yeah, range for a male rock vocalist was a big deal back then...this comes to mind..

 

[GonePlaid]

yeah, range for a male rock vocalist was a big deal back then...this comes to mind..

Yeah. Listen to Tom Keifer(Cinderella). Yikes!

 

[PillO]

Paul Rodgers is indeed amazing, I'm a huge fan! His voice seems unchanged from his early days, I saw him on tour with the original lineup of Bad Company as they promoted their first album, so in '74 or '75. Recently I watched this :
Amazon.com: Bad Company: Hard Rock Live: Paul Rodgers, Simon Kirke, Mick Ralphs, Bad Company

What a great show! As it turns out Paul lives here in Washington State in between Seattle and the Canadian border, on this tour he employs Seattle area bassist Lynn Sorenson (he gets lots of camera time due to his great stage presence) and Howard Leese of Heart as a second guitarist to Mick Ralphs. I highly recommend the video if you have Amazon Prime.

Paul Rodgers is incredible. I agree that he sounds like his voice has not changed at all.

I thought we was living in a suburb of Vancouver as he had married a Canadian girl. Perhaps it is one of those suburbs that straddles the border?

 

[TBird1958]

Paul Rodgers is incredible. I agree that he sounds like his voice has not changed at all.

I thought we was living in a suburb of Vancouver as he had married a Canadian girl. Perhaps it is one of those suburbs that straddles the border?

You could be right as I don't know for certain, but, I find it interesting that he was using Seattle area guys to fill out the band for his tour.

 

[dagrev]

Paul Rodgers is indeed amazing, I'm a huge fan! His voice seems unchanged from his early days, I saw him on tour with the original lineup of Bad Company as they promoted their first album, so in '74 or '75. Recently I watched this :
Amazon.com: Bad Company: Hard Rock Live: Paul Rodgers, Simon Kirke, Mick Ralphs, Bad Company

What a great show! As it turns out Paul lives here in Washington State in between Seattle and the Canadian border, on this tour he employs Seattle area bassist Lynn Sorenson (he gets lots of camera time due to his great stage presence) and Howard Leese of Heart as a second guitarist to Mick Ralphs. I highly recommend the video if you have Amazon Prime.

I think his voice is gotten even better!

Unfortunately Mick Ralphs doesn't tour with them any longer. I miss his guitar playing.

 

[dagrev]

Paul Rodgers is incredible. I agree that he sounds like his voice has not changed at all.

I thought we was living in a suburb of Vancouver as he had married a Canadian girl. Perhaps it is one of those suburbs that straddles the border?

That's right though somewhat unexpected. I recall he mentioned he met her through Lynyrd Skynyrd. He said he was good friends with them and somehow met her through them. Even more of an odd connection. Who knew LS knew Canadians!

 

[GBassNorth]

.....Who knew LS knew Canadians!

LOL - they knew of Neil Young.

 

[PillO]

LOL - they knew of Neil Young.

Many argue that he is no longer Canadian.

That's right though somewhat unexpected. I recall he mentioned he met her through Lynyrd Skynyrd. He said he was good friends with them and somehow met her through them. Even more of an odd connection. Who knew LS knew Canadians!

Around where I grew up, Southern Rock was quite popular. I still listen to Lynyrd Skynyrd and Molly Hatchett. 38 Special not so much anymore (and they no longer have two drummers - that is what made them special!).

 

[PillO]

and they no longer have two drummers - that is what made them special!

old

new

 

[D.M.N.]

Well, the paint for the Bach should be shipping out this week so I'll be able to spray color early next week. Had to order more white vinyl sealer due to the lack luster performance of the grain filler, but that's all square away now. There's still some small grain relief, most in the sides and ends with open-ended grain, might give it one last go to try to fill or just call it good.

Also just ordered parts to get back into pedal building, have to keep myself busy somehow.

 

[Bassmike62]

Paul Rodgers is indeed amazing, I'm a huge fan! His voice seems unchanged from his early days, I saw him on tour with the original lineup of Bad Company as they promoted their first album, so in '74 or '75. Recently I watched this :
Amazon.com: Bad Company: Hard Rock Live: Paul Rodgers, Simon Kirke, Mick Ralphs, Bad Company

What a great show! As it turns out Paul lives here in Washington State in between Seattle and the Canadian border, on this tour he employs Seattle area bassist Lynn Sorenson (he gets lots of camera time due to his great stage presence) and Howard Leese of Heart as a second guitarist to Mick Ralphs. I highly recommend the video if you have Amazon Prime.

This band rocks !
Voice, guitars, drums, bass... Can't get enough is at 1:03:00 or so, what a rendition