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Thunderbird Club

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Here it is, as promised... with the Wall Of Death for a backdrop...
 
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Haji said:
That's interesting. Does routing under the guard change the balance substantially? I don't mind the overall weight so much as the neck dive; my particular bass is only slightly heavier than my Sterling SB4...but there is a difference.
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It didn't neck-dive before I routed and it doesn't neck dive after losing close to a pound - it's just lighter.

BadBassDrummer said:
Removing weight from the body without reducing the weight of the headstock will certainly change the balance.
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Not in this case - the body was heavy, and now it's less heavy.
 
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BadBassDrummer said:
Removing weight from the body without reducing the weight of the headstock will certainly change the balance.
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Nocturnal said:
The Goth that I refinished is pretty heavy at 9.5 lbs fully assembled. My neck thru Gibson's are only 8.5 lbs.
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exactly - a pound makes a difference - my '64 is 9lbs but it is what it is.
 
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I played back-to-back shows this weekend at a local bar. The sound tech is very good (runs his own Juno award winning studio). Friday night I used my T-bird Classic-IV Pro. It sounded good. Saturday night I used my Fender Jaguar Dlx. Both Rick (the sound guy) and I agreed that it sounded much more full and defined than the T-bird. The T-bird was just flat & lacking dynamics. :(

Both basses were DI-d before my amp, so the amp's not in question. The Jag was run in Series with the Vol/Tone dimed out & the active circuit turned off. The T-bird was run with the Neck volume on 7, Bridge volume on full & the tone on full.

One thing I was thinking is that maybe the single coils just lend that bite and clarity that helps define the sound.

Any suggestions on what I should do? Are there any single coil T-bird replacement pick-up options? Should I look at putting a pre-amp in? I could do a stacked Vol/Vol setup with a 2-band, maybe?
 
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awilkie84 said:
Both basses were DI-d before my amp, so the amp's not in question. The Jag was run in Series with the Vol/Tone dimed out & the active circuit turned off. The T-bird was run with the Neck volume on 7, Bridge volume on full & the tone on full.

One thing I was thinking is that maybe the single coils just lend that bite and clarity that helps define the sound.

Any suggestions on what I should do? Are there any single coil T-bird replacement pick-up options? Should I look at putting a pre-amp in? I could do a stacked Vol/Vol setup with a 2-band, maybe?
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The D.I is the factor, not the bass itself. I know cause i've done d.i. so many times (recording and live) and i hate it. Recording, i have no control over my tone it's just flat. As simple as that is, i don't like going d.i. it makes you lack the definition and growl you need. IMO, i wouldn't do anything to the bird, i'd just not use a D.I. with it. If that has no change whatsoever, so be it, do what you want. But i can say, from personal experience, that d.i. usually kills your tone. Cause it's just flat, you can't enhance the top or bottom end. Unless you have a d.i. with eq (which i do MXR M80, but haven't used it live back when i was plugged d.i.). That's my two cents on the factor.

Try again with your bird w/o the d.i. and see how it sounds. If nothing changes, do whatever, if it does change, you've found the variable. good luck
 
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ThaCoast said:
The D.I is the factor, not the bass itself. I know cause i've done d.i. so many times (recording and live) and i hate it. Recording, i have no control over my tone it's just flat. As simple as that is, i don't like going d.i. it makes you lack the definition and growl you need. IMO, i wouldn't do anything to the bird, i'd just not use a D.I. with it. If that has no change whatsoever, so be it, do what you want. But i can say, from personal experience, that d.i. usually kills your tone. Cause it's just flat, you can't enhance the top or bottom end. Unless you have a d.i. with eq (which i do MXR M80, but haven't used it live back when i was plugged d.i.). That's my two cents on the factor.

Try again with your bird w/o the d.i. and see how it sounds. If nothing changes, do whatever, if it does change, you've found the variable. good luck
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Well we went Bass to DI to amp. Both basses with the same DI and same amp. The T-bird just didn't have the same rounded tone. Also, he was adjusting the house levels at the board in the FOH, so he tried tinkering with the tone to get it to a likable level. We just couldn't find something we were happy with.
 

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