Regardless of how perverted from its roots in being little else than soundtrack to a casual mating ritual the Rock & Roll music genre became and has become, the name of the for-profit enterprise is all wrong.
It'd be like if some stadium owner opened something they called Baseball Hall of Fame and, at first, only inducted baseball, stickball, and cricket players, but eventually began indicting golfers, hockey players, and tennis players so as to boost ticket sales, the success of which then leading them to mostly induct in each annual event fishermen, poker players, boxers and only include one or two token ball-sports players and a few uncoordinated team owners and desk jockeys.
No offense, purely for fun:
I could go on all day. Here's what Wikipedia says:
She is known for sonically innovative, socially conscious and sexually provocative records, and elaborate stage shows.
See that part that says, "sonically innovative, socially conscious?" That's more than Def Leppard did.
that has as much to do with the R&R genre as it is known by both its fans and detractors as Jeremy McGrath's unprecedented supercross career has with marathon. JM is at least as much of both an athlete and performer as JJ is a musician and performer...
Even though her music is more true to the hot and bothered, hip swinging spirit that spawned the Rock and Roll genre than most music that actally is recognized as Rock & Roll post-Bob Dylan, she just ain't rock nor roll, and certainly is not both.
Yes, but in all fairness, 1) many people confuse metal, trance, hip hop, country and other forms as Rock 'n Roll. 2) In truth, pop and dance music share more characteristics of rock 'n roll than metal does. 3) Metal is not something you can dance to.
1) does "many" mean... um... the population whose musical intake is limited to classical, opera, and the occasional weekend dip into traditional bluegrass and folk? There undoubtedly are "many" of those narrow-minded people who simply are not exposed to uncivilized movement inspiring music. Their lack of discernment in music popular in the American 14-35yo demographics from 1955-on is as relevant as a Scottish house cat's would be on Thai cuisine.
2) ...from a soundscape chef's perspective, unequivocally yes. From even a semi-savvy music consumer's perspective? You are inbreedingly wrongamundo.
3) pop-n-locking is but one dance, and it is both grossly dissimilar to and is predated by waltz and headbanging, but is neither more nor less of a legitimate form of dance than either the other two.
Almost everyone on [this] list is from rock and roll, or r&b/blues.
Here is a list from 2011 of inductees:
ABBA (friggin abba?)
Louis Armstrong (Love him, but Lance and Neil are more R&R than this garbly tooter)
Chet Atkins (disliked R&R, but was brilliant on R&R's equivalent of a baseball's bat)
Frank Barsalona (booking agent)
The Bee Gees (dude. no.)
Dick Clark (lol)
Neil Diamond (maybe for people who think Aerosmith is heavy metal, for them he might be R&R)
Bob Dylan (a tuneless wordsmith with a guitar. This is where R&R's perversion which would lead to Slayer and Hole began, and the reason that Janet and Abba just are as rock and roll as a bologna sandwich is pie)
Nesuhi Ertegun (businessman)
Ahmet Ertegun (businessman)
Leo Fender (inventor and businessman)
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (like a Trek 770 is a good minivan)
Isaac Hayes (did he ever think "my product is tangentially related to Rock n Roll"? Doubtful.)
Herb Alpert & Jerry Moss [snort]
Jac Holzman (another businessman)
Madonna (sigh. nope.)
Joni Mitchell (a golfer in the baseball HOF. She used a guitar. Sometimes she had drummers...)
Paul Simon (hhhhh)
Simon and Garfunkel (hhhhhh)
Seymour Stein (musician? Nope. businessman.)
I do like your constructeur's analysis of the similarity of 80's R&B to the impetus of what Rock and Roll has become. It makes the products of Nirvana closer to that of John Stafford Smith & Francis Scott Key than they are to Sister Rosetta Tharpe.
Alligators, birds, and man. We all come from the same beginning and we even have many things in common. Discernment between classifications is kinda important. I doubt that pretty lady who keeps photobombing your avi pics would be ok with you boinking some woman who mostly looks and sounds the same, particularly if it's her mom. I find it easy to doubt "but, you guys are pretty much the same" would fly.
