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To Me, Fender Is.......

#126
Richard_P_Harve said:
This thread is totally out of control. Fender basses are an american staple and Leo was an incredible mind and set the stage for everything since. But to disagree that there are better instruments is downright silly, Turock you're out numbered so go home.
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You see, I didn't say that. "far better" is what I disagree with.
Try to understand a post before you "downright silly" it.
 
#133
Basstardus said:
To me, Fender WAS "THE BASS", now it's crap, just yesterday I've played 4 precisions (USA Standard), 1 Vintage 60's Precision (USA), Roadworn Jazz and 5 different Telecasters (mexico & USA) brand new in the store... Only one precision bass was good enough for me to play it more than 2 minutes, and it was Am. Std. and one Telecaster, and it was some USA special run or something, it was the most expensive one, but even that one wasn't feeling right. I said to myself, Fender never again... Now I'm playing MusicMan StingRay and fender-like Laklands, so I do love the design, but not todays quality of a Fender
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Another one of these " I played about a half dozen Fenders and I didn't like them so ALL Fenders are crap" nonsense posts.
 
#134
faulknersj said:
Bryan R Tyler, any experience with Custom Shop Fenders, and if so, how would u compare them to other basses that are the 'go to's' for the session players u mentioned?
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Only a couple, but they were very nice basses (I assume very nice guitars as well based on my guitarist's custom shop Strat). They also cost as much or more than most boutique hand made basses. I don't even consider them in the same realm as a normal Fender because the price is so different. They aren't the basses people talk about when they talk about Fenders in general.

I wouldn't compare them to most of the guys I mentioned because they play such different basses. You can have the nicest 4 string jazz in the world, and it would still wouldn't sound/feel the same as an Alembic Series II short scale or an AJ Presentation 6-string or a Zon Hyperbass. If what you want is something different, then the quality doesn't matter and any standardized notion of "better" goes out the window. If you want a bass that sounds like a Hyperbass, then the Hyperbass is a far better instrument for you than any Fender. If you want a bass that sounds like a Fender Jazz, then a Fender Jazz is a far better bass for you than a Hyperbass. Notions like a Fender is "where you wind up AFTER you've matured enough to figure out that it's all about the music, not all about YOU" are absolutely ridiculous. People don't mature and end up with the same tastes, as is easily seen by all the players that are far better than anyone here who opt for other instruments.
 
#135
Makes perfect sense.


Bryan R. Tyler said:
Only a couple, but they were very nice basses (I assume very nice guitars as well based on my guitarist's custom shop Strat). They also cost as much or more than most boutique hand made basses. I don't even consider them in the same realm as a normal Fender because the price is so different. They aren't the basses people talk about when they talk about Fenders in general.

I wouldn't compare them to most of the guys I mentioned because they play such different basses. You can have the nicest 4 string jazz in the world, and it would still wouldn't sound/feel the same as an Alembic Series II short scale or an AJ Presentation 6-string or a Zon Hyperbass. If what you want is something different, then the quality doesn't matter and any standardized notion of "better" goes out the window. If you want a bass that sounds like a Hyperbass, then the Hyperbass is a far better instrument for you than any Fender. If you want a bass that sounds like a Fender Jazz, then a Fender Jazz is a far better bass for you than a Hyperbass. Notions like a Fender is "where you wind up AFTER you've matured enough to figure out that it's all about the music, not all about YOU" are absolutely ridiculous. People don't mature and end up with the same tastes, as is easily seen by all the players that are far better than anyone here who opt for other instruments.
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#136
I've had enough 70's era Fenders with spaghetti necks to swear of the brand forever, but things change, and over the last couple years, graphite stiffening rods, better fret work, really nice neck profiles, I'm back in.
 
#137
....A company that makes bass gear.:p

They have a long history, and were Leo's first bass business.... a man who is directly responsible for serious innovation we see and hear today.

In short: The original solid body electric bass guitar company.
Modern, but well aware of the central role of Leo's (and others like George Fullerton's) early contributions that are a massive part of the company’s value.

Certainly not the worst choice for bass gear.... :bassist:
 

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