• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Tool already started on new album O.O

There was too much of nothing really happening on the last record. Jambi had a great rhythm and the guitar had great tone, but could have used more than one chord. There's a huge lull in the middle of the record where the other records are at their strongest.

I enjoy noise/ambience etc but after the huge riffs of the first couple of songs it's hard for a record to keep your attention when they slow it down. It's not that I don't like 10,000 Days but I almost never listen to it all the way through.
 
I disagree completely. The production and sound quality of 10,000 days far surpasses their previous albums. Overall it is more focused, professional, full, and dynamic. Their first few albums (while they do have a great sound going and some sweet songs) dont sound nearly as good IMO purely from a production/mixing standpoint. I dont know the people who produce/mix their cds so I'm not bashing them in any way, just the sound Tool comes across with is alot more rich on Lateralus and especially 10,000 days.

To grant you a point though, I think Lateralus was a big turning point in their sound evolution. They kind of went from the angsty post-punk kind of vibe to the more complex and developed epic "art-rock" if you want to call it that. They thought about the songs alot more and it shows, and they wanted to reflect that in the way they sounded.

All IMO, dont hate me please. I love Tool!

i'm with you on this i don't get the hate for the new album it's amazing the production is definatly better than the other albums and theres some great songs on it, your average tool fan seems like a pretensious so and so who feels its his duty to hate anything new past the time when he first listened to them.
 
I've been a dedicated Tool fan for eleven years. I agree with an earlier poster that Tool can't make a bad album. Obviously, they are capable. I just don't think they would allow it. Here's my order of Tool albums from fav to least fav.

1. Aenima
2. 10,000 Days
3. Lateralus
4. Salival
5. Undertow
6. Opiate

I love 10,000 Days. Vicarious gets stuck in my head all the time!


I love the OPIATE album still to this day! Great Writing in those songs

and Does anyone remember the Tapeworm Project with maynard and Trent Reznor??

Im still waiting to hear that
 
Im pretty sure it's not going to happen. Trent's too caught up in his own works, not to knock him or anything, he's just got his own project going, which is a mammoth one.

Speaking of which Magneezius, did you hear that Justin's getting his hands on a real Brassmaster, or a Malekko Ass:master, a custom built one. You liking yours?
 
I just want them to work on their live show cause when i saw them it was horrible. maybe i just caught a bad concert and that they ussually are good but man it was the only concert that i wanted end. and the laser show wasnt worth it also they played lots of songs that sound alike right after each other. i would have rather staed home and just listend to their albums and 10000 years is ok but not good or great just ok
 
"10,000 Days"...I thought it was underfed. The songwriting, if you can call it that, was half-baked. Adam's guitar whine was pretty obnoxious. Every time he had a moment to "shine," he'd go into that whiny wah/talk box kind of thing. I just wonder, if he spent as much time developing his guitar craft as he does the album packaging, how much better they'd be. And Maynard...wow, he tried some new things on the album, but I find them grating as hell. That intro vocal to "The Pot"? Nails on a chalkboard.

However, I love "Intension," the drums and bass are progressing nicely, and...some parts here and there are good. I'm not drooling over a new album, but I will welcome it with kind eyes.

+1
Used to love Tool.
Now eehh...
 
WOW! .. :rollno::scowl:


I wonder If People Said the Same thing about King Crimson and Pink Floyd back in the day.....Because TOOL is the modern day Equivalent!! ....and thats coming from Robert Fripp himself.

1211072305.jpg

0430072156c-1.jpg
 
YES!.....But don't worry if you don't they'll Pry it open for you.

Um... wow. Care to explain?

By the way, I'm a huge fan of King Crimson and Pink Floyd. While I will agree that Tool is a good band, I wouldn't put them anywhere in the same league as KC in terms of pushing envelopes and challenging themselves. KC pretty much re-invents themselves every few years, to the point of sounding like a completely different band (to be fair, they have gone through quite a few band members - but the core group has changed very little since 1981). Tool keeps rehashing the same tricks over and over again, and they seem to have lost much of the guts and forward thinking that they used to display when Paul D'Amour was in the band.

I would love to see Tool actually progress and improve. They've got the talent and the resources to do it. As it stands, I don't think they've done anything interesting since Aenema. I don't believe I need any special insight to realize this; just open ears.
 
NO. You need an Open Mind.....:hmm:

and its funny how your website Looks TOOL inspired. :hmm:

and to say there last good album was Aenima is Just ********:rollno:

I guess you never saw the Lateralus Tour then...and HOnestly Danny's drum playing only got better in Every album and you can't deny that fact!!
 
NO. You need an Open Mind.....:hmm:

I don't know if you've ever taken the time to listen to some of Ben's various projects, but he has a more open mind about music than most anyone here. He's not much of a fan of their music and doesn't like what they've done in recent years. What's hard to accept about that? You can have a completely open mind and still hate the crap out of their music.