Two Notes Le Bass Players Club

[Bellbass]

I also use Le Bass as my DI but without an amp (IEM) so my rig is set up differently. I run a Analogman bi-comp (as an effect), an octaver, an envelope filter and a distorsion before the preamp and, in the loop, modulation, delay and reverb into the TwoNotes CAB and finally a subtle compression/limiter. And I agree with Simotek, the distortions sound great through the preamp (as I understand it, before the loop).

 

[DriesG]

I am or (will be when I get the extra pedals) probably running more in the loop then most because I run out of the DI on my Le Bass into the balanced input of my amp (I then compensate a bit on the amp EQ I have a hifi sounding amp) and run the Le Bass as always on mostly on channel A or B. Currently I have Boss ME-50B -> Le Bass (MXR Bass Comp). I'm planning a Delay/Reverb to run post the compressor in the loop as well. In a ideal world with a much bigger budget then I have now i'd probably run octive > fuzz > overdrive > synth > envelope filter > Le Bass (Compressor -> Volume -> Delay -> Reverb )
I don't know if i'd run the envelope filter before or in the Le Bass loop, The important one i've found Is the compressor works better after the Le Bass, I'm running my B channel at the point of breakup where playing lightly only gives some mild dirt where as playing harder gives a fair bit more distortion, running the compressor before the Le Bass will limit that where as i've found running it after means that I can play lightly for the mild grit and heavier for some heavier distortion and have the volumes equaled out to be more similar. I've also found the fuzz and overdrive's on my ME-50b sound better going into a slightly dirty B channel on the Le Bass so maybe also consider trying your overdrive/fuzz in front.

Thanks Simotek. I want my comp before the oct, because it can't handle the lowest notes if it's after the oct, preamp, OD etc... Been looking for a new comp with a parallel compression/blend option, because of that. Need to build my new setup around the Le Bass first and then see what happens. ;-)

 

[DriesG]

I also use Le Bass as my DI but without an amp (IEM) so my rig is set up differently. I run a Analogman bi-comp (as an effect), an octaver, an envelope filter and a distorsion before the preamp and, in the loop, modulation, delay and reverb into the TwoNotes CAB and finally a subtle compression/limiter. And I agree with Simotek, the distortions sound great through the preamp (as I understand it, before the loop).

So you don't use the built-in cab sim but the 'real deal'. I don't like the built-in emulation in the Le Bass. The CAB surely is a different story.
I might be old school, but I love my amps and cabs on-stage. But of course: all depends on the type of gig we're playing.

 

[madame clapotis]

Hey guys, what are you running in front, in the loop or after your Le Bass? I'm rethinking/downsizing my setup around my Le Bass (this thing is so good). For now, I'm looking at bass > comp > octamizer > RC bass > Le Bass (OD and fuzz in loop) > chorus > vol pedal > x-blender (delay in loop) > amp. I generally use the DI of my amp (DB751 or TH500). Any advice, considerations or suggestions? thanks.

Note, fyo, that the effects loop on the Le Bass is only enabled when the preamp itself is switched on, too.

(...)
If you look at the block diagram of Le bass, you'll see that the Return jack is directly connected to the output jack (through the bypass relay). So putting the CAB at the end of the loop or just after Le Bass is technically the same (if you keep Le Bass always on, of course, so the loop is always used). (...)
If you are using the jack out of the CAB, then putting the CAB in the loop or after Le Bass doesn't really change anything.

 

[DriesG]

Note, fyo, that the effects loop on the Le Bass is only enabled when the preamp itself is switched on, too.

I know, but of course it's always on.

 

[Bellbass]

So you don't use the built-in cab sim but the 'real deal'. I don't like the built-in emulation in the Le Bass. The CAB surely is a different story.
I might be old school, but I love my amps and cabs on-stage. But of course: all depends on the type of gig we're playing.

The CAB is great and very versatile - as said before, the amp simulations are just great (as the cab sims). As far as amps and cabs on stage, our soundman would not allow a loud monitoring on stage (we're all IEM). So I had to keep the amp level at minimum. At one point, it was just not worth it to bring all the big guns...I'm quite happy with the setup: a briefcase and a dual gigbag!!

 

[DriesG]

Waiting for my new psu (thruetone CS7) to arrive before hooking things up. Think I'm almost there, but I could live without the Providence DBS though it's an easy pedal when using two basses... Might have to experiment with the position of the agro and fuzz in this chain, but I'm starting to like this setup.
TLC > Providence DBS > OCT > Le Bass (agro & fuzz in loop) > vol >x-blender (chorus & capistan in mix loop).

downsizing part1

• DriesG
• Aug 8, 2016
• le bass

downsizing & building around the Le Bass.

 

[CharlieC]

Another nod to Le Bass!

 

[Johnny Mac]

Hey guys, what are you running in front, in the loop or after your Le Bass? I'm rethinking/downsizing my setup around my Le Bass (this thing is so good). For now, I'm looking at bass > comp > octamizer > RC bass > Le Bass (OD and fuzz in loop) > chorus > vol pedal > x-blender (delay in loop) > amp. I generally use the DI of my amp (DB751 or TH500). Any advice, considerations or suggestions? thanks.

I run all of my dirt pedals in front and my chorus/delay/reverb in the loop. My L+HPF goes in the loop as well.

Another nod to Le Bass!

I definitely understand his gripe with both pedals. Fortunately, I use cold fusion pretty much exclusively, so I don't run into the problem myself.

 

[simotek]

Another nod to Le Bass!

My bigger gripe was getting a consistent volume out of Channel A / B and Cold Fusion at the same time and that when using cold fusion with Channel B at the point of breakup there is far to much low end. I got around the cab sim part by running DI out into my amp witht he cabsim on and compensating a bit with the amp EQ, I have the treble on Channel A at 4 oclock and thats bright enough for me although I did think the strings on my bass were slightly too bright before.

While i'm here I've completely changed the way i'm using mine partly due to the above, firstly I now have a MXR Bass comp in the loop I mostly got this for other reasons like evening out slaps but its had some other really useful effects like helping to even out volume levels between channels a little. Before I was trying to have Cold fusion as my slightly dirty channel and channel B on its own as my dirtier channel (I use this least) I could never get that to really work well for me though so I've swapped it around a bit. I'm now using Channel B at the point of breakup on its own, at this point it doesn't really loose the low end like I thought it would which is why I was previously using cold fusion, its dialed in nicely so playing straight 8's lightly has just a nice amount of dirt and when I play heavier I can get a bit more (the compressor is also helping here to make those two levels quite do able without annoying sound people to much). Then on the rare occasions where I want more gain I can swap to hot fusion although just boosting the mid eq on my active bass does pretty well too. So i'm pretty happy with this setup now.

 

[TimGriffiths]

Any one have an experience using the Le Bass in a split set up with a poweramp such as the QSC GX range? I've started bypassing my heads preamp thanks to the Le Bass and it's occurred to me that if I'm using my head just for the power amp I may as think about getting a dedicated one instead. I was under the impression that doing this with preamp pedals can sometimes be a bit hit or miss and while the Le Bass manual does give power amps as an example of where you can send the output I thought I'd see if any one has any practical experience with it.

 

[CharlieC]

Any one have an experience using the Le Bass in a split set up with a poweramp such as the QSC GX range? I've started bypassing my heads preamp thanks to the Le Bass and it's occurred to me that if I'm using my head just for the power amp I may as think about getting a dedicated one instead. I was under the impression that doing this with preamp pedals can sometimes be a bit hit or miss and while the Le Bass manual does give power amps as an example of where you can send the output I thought I'd see if any one has any practical experience with it.

I have not experienced any issues running Le Bass to a power amp, but as with everything, YMMV.

 

[TimGriffiths]

Excellent, will take the Le Bass on a shopping trip in the near future then. Thanks.

 

[LowBSix]

I use my Le Bass as a preamp in front of a Demeter Minnie 800D

 

[Basstyra]

Another nod to Le Bass!

That's a great review, he really understood the whole concept and made very good use of the device ! And he actually puts his finger on exactly why we did what we did for many years, before we designed Le Bass : high quality, highly tweakable speaker cabinet simulation. Because at the end of the day, the cab sim is a very, very important part of the overall sound.

Long story short : his solution is probably just a Torpedo CAB

 

[MostlyBass]

Yep - that video was a great review! Not only did he cover the sound and features well but he spoke well and presented information in a logical manner.

 

[DennyOnBass]

I have a Source Audio Programmable EQ coming in on loan early next week, going to try to connect it to my Le Bass to tweak some of the settings of the various channels. I'm familiar with MIDI programming, haven't actually done any of it on the Le Bass, wondering how easy/difficult people are finding the process.

Also, I'm running an MXR Bass Octave Deluxe before the Le Bass and an Iron Oxide Xerograph Deluxe and Moog Boost pedal in the loop. Where would you put the Source Audio pedal in the chain? I'm thinking between the Xerograph and the Moog, that way I'm able to tweak levels and EQ for each individual channel without adding extra drive to each of them. Then I can use the Moog boost for more volume when I need it. Other thoughts? I use Cold Fusion for my basic sound, want use the Source to tweak A to be able to dial in a better slap sound and B for a more rock tone. I love the sound of Cold Fusion as I have it set, but A and B could use a little more sauce.

 

[simotek]

I have a Source Audio Programmable EQ coming in on loan early next week, going to try to connect it to my Le Bass to tweak some of the settings of the various channels. I'm familiar with MIDI programming, haven't actually done any of it on the Le Bass, wondering how easy/difficult people are finding the process.

Also, I'm running an MXR Bass Octave Deluxe before the Le Bass and an Iron Oxide Xerograph Deluxe and Moog Boost pedal in the loop. Where would you put the Source Audio pedal in the chain? I'm thinking between the Xerograph and the Moog, that way I'm able to tweak levels and EQ for each individual channel without adding extra drive to each of them. Then I can use the Moog boost for more volume when I need it. Other thoughts? I use Cold Fusion for my basic sound, want use the Source to tweak A to be able to dial in a better slap sound and B for a more rock tone. I love the sound of Cold Fusion as I have it set, but A and B could use a little more sauce.

Try both before and after or in the loop, for the driven channels it will behave a bit differently, this video does a good job of explaining the differences from memory. I'm also considering one and i'll probably run it before because part of its role will be equalizing out volumes between different basses (1 Bass per preset kinda).

 

[DennyOnBass]

Try both before and after or in the loop, for the driven channels it will behave a bit differently, this video does a good job of explaining the differences from memory. I'm also considering one and i'll probably run it before because part of its role will be equalizing out volumes between different basses (1 Bass per preset kinda).

I'm definitely going to experiment, just soliciting some ideas. Last night I brought my old Boss GEB-7, put it at the front of the entire chain and used it to kick in a little more of a rock tone for a few tunes and just drove the tube a little more in Cold Fusion mode. It sounded cool for sure. I'll probably just swap out the Source Audio EQ up front and see where it gets me to start. Eventually I'm sure I'll move it around in the chain and see what it gets me.

I won't be putting if after, though...I'm usually DIing right off of the Le Bass and I want to hear the EQ changes.

Mainly I'm wondering how much of a chore it's going to be to set the Le Bass up to change patches on the Source Audio EQ via MIDI.

 

[EwoutDecraene]

I'm in the market for a tube di, since I can't afford any real full tube amps that fit my taste.

I'm into a more 'vintage' oriented sound: P-bass, old flatwounds, pic, and a sweet little breakup distortion, for some parts of our show even full on distortion.

My eye fell on the two notes because its speaker sim seems to give that darker sound, while the 12ax7 could provide some tube breakup. The thing that made me doubt a litte bit however, was the midscoop, because that's all but vintage sounding.

So, the question: anyone with a le bass that can tell me if preamp A has the eq possibilities to bump the mid by lowering the bass and trebble and bumping the gain, or will it stay a bit scooped? And if it is possible, would you call the result rather vintage sounding?