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U.S. Peavey Club

Peavey Foundation Fretless 1983 Marble

I inquired about the finish on this one, wrap or custom paint job here's the quoted reply:

(It's a paint finish that's actually factory original. Peevey released the foundation in a gloss white, sunburst, black, and other limited run "exotic" finishes including this marble one.)

I'm guessing nope! If I'm wrong this one's a rare beast for sure...

Right in the ad: "The finish on this bass is custom, however its quality is so good you can't even tell it's not oem."

Not original.
 
Peavey Foundation Fretless 1983 Marble

I inquired about the finish on this one, wrap or custom paint job here's the quoted reply:

(It's a paint finish that's actually factory original. Peevey released the foundation in a gloss white, sunburst, black, and other limited run "exotic" finishes including this marble one.)

I'm guessing nope! If I'm wrong this one's a rare beast for sure...

He must have edited the listing. It now reads: "The finish on this bass is custom, however its quality is so good you can't even tell it's not oem."

I think it looks killer, but given the neck issues that are described as having been addressed, I wouldn't buy without playing it first. Especially since I've never tried invisible strings.
 
He must have edited the listing. It now reads: "The finish on this bass is custom, however its quality is so good you can't even tell it's not oem."

I think it looks killer, but given the neck issues that are described as having been addressed, I wouldn't buy without playing it first. Especially since I've never tried invisible strings.

This is one of those interesting listings that comes along every once in a blue moon.

If he edited the listing, he probably got messages from "experts" about the finish not being original. Then, anxious not to misrepresent the item he changes the description re the stone finish? I doubt the seller knows exactly what he has there. He's 'guessing' 1983, but it's clearly not an'83. The serial # should date it, but he apparently isn't aware of that, either.

I have no opinion on the finish being a re-fin, but I know for sure that Peavey did some oddball factory finishes, especially during the 80's. Back in the day my local shop was a big Peavey dealer and would have the occasional brand new oddball one-off-ish-looking guitar hanging on the wall. I don't recall seeing a 'stone' finished one, but I know that Hamer and Warwick have offered those finishes in the past, and likely others too. Did Peavey? Maybe.

Regardless, that marble Foundation looks pretty damn cool.
 
He changed after my reply, stating "I didn't think it was factory but it would look good in my collection" sent with a family picture of a bunch of Peavey's...

Seems innocent enough at least he changed it...

It'd be cool if it was factory though...
 
Peavey Foundation Fretless 1983 Marble

I inquired about the finish on this one, wrap or custom paint job here's the quoted reply:

(It's a paint finish that's actually factory original. Peevey released the foundation in a gloss white, sunburst, black, and other limited run "exotic" finishes including this marble one.)

I'm guessing nope! If I'm wrong this one's a rare beast for sure...
A bass listed with no strings on it scares me. Too many people out there that don’t realize you should loosen a truss nut, if you’re going to leave strings off a bass. The neck could be trashed.
 
I could build one. But, I think I sold my last set of SFs to Bleeker.
The last bass that would have been a great candidate was my Squier 72 Tele Bass. It just had a neck mudbucker, I toyed with the idea of routing it for a 51 SCPB pickup or SF. In the end, I didn't like the bass enough to keep it, so it was sold. Maybe someday, when the right bass pops up... I have one SF left in the parts drawer. However, a neck SF is 28" from the nut on a Foundation, a '51 SCPB is 27 5/16". Not terribly different, as far as harmonic content is concerned.
What does the SF at the neck heel position sound like on the RicRiot bass?
Jedi, time to make sound clips. :)
I extensively compared RicRiot to my round wound Foundy. Same strings, same basic set up, same amp. It's not super duper different than the neck pickup on a Foundation. It's at 25 3/8" from the nut. When you compare it directly to the neck pickup of a Foundation, there is a noticeable extra depth and fundamental to it-kind of like boosting 60hz a couple dB and cutting 250hz a db or three. Not radical considering that the pickup moved 2 5/8" towards the neck. It's much more noticeable playing solo vs in the mix. With the band, the RicRiot just gives more variety with it's 3 pickup settings all being good for supporting general rock/pop music. With a Foundy, I only use soloed neck or blend of both. Soloed bridge is too thin without a bass boost.

I think that physics dictates there isn't as relatively a drastic change in the tonality as you move pickups towards the neck. When moving towards the bridge, the harmonic content shifts much faster as you read a shorter and shorter part of the string. Think of it visually like the frets: they get way closer as you move towards the bridge and the pitch changes more drastically with the same distance change. The harmonics read by the pickup react much the same.
There is a much more noticeable difference in the tonality in the bridge pickup of RicRiot vs a Foundation. The Foundy is at 32", the RicRiot at 29 5/8". That 2 3/8" location change towards the neck makes the tone go from thinner & focused to punchy, yet tight. I wouldn't want to gig a soloed Foundy bridge pickup, but the Patriot can hang and keep the low end supported. Comparing the Patriot to the Foundy neck pickup is just a slight addition of some depth.
 
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The last bass that would have been a great candidate was my Squier 72 Tele Bass. It just had a neck mudbucker, I toyed with the idea of routing it for a 51 SCPB pickup or SF. In the end, I didn't like the bass enough to keep it, so it was sold. Maybe someday, when the right bass pops up... I have one SF left in the parts drawer. However, a neck SF is 28" from the nut on a Foundation, a '51 SCPB is 27 5/16". Not terribly different, as far as harmonic content is concerned.
I extensively compared RicRiot to my round wound Foundy. Same strings, same basic set up, same amp. It's not super duper different than the neck pickup on a Foundation. It's at 25 3/8" from the nut. When you compare it directly to the neck pickup of a Foundation, there is a noticeable extra depth and fundamental to it-kind of like boosting 60hz a couple dB and cutting 250hz a db or three. Not radical considering that the pickup moved 2 5/8" towards the neck. It's much more noticeable playing solo vs in the mix. With the band, the RicRiot just gives more variety with it's 3 pickup settings all being good for supporting general rock/pop music. With a Foundy, I only use soloed neck or blend of both. Soloed bridge is too thin without a bass boost.

I think that physics dictates there isn't as relatively a drastic change in the tonality as you move pickups towards the neck. When moving towards the bridge, the harmonic content shifts much faster as you read a shorter and shorter part of the string. Think of it visually like the frets: they get way closer as you move towards the bridge and the pitch changes more drastically with the same distance change. The harmonics read by the pickup react much the same.
There is a much more noticeable difference in the tonality in the bridge pickup of RicRiot vs a Foundation. The Foundy is at 32", the RicRiot at 29 5/8". That 2 3/8" location change towards the neck makes the tone go from thinner & focused to punchy, yet tight. I wouldn't want to gig a soloed Foundy bridge pickup, but the Patriot can hang and keep the low end supported. Comparing the Patriot to the Foundy neck pickup is just a slight addition of some depth.
Which do you prefer with a pick?
 
I wouldn't want to gig a soloed Foundy bridge pickup, but the Patriot can hang and keep the low end supported.
Comparing the Patriot to the Foundy neck pickup is just a slight addition of some depth.
I've often wondered if the best upgrade to a Patriot might be a two band pre like the EMG Stacked BTC or the Duncan Blackout Pre.
 
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2012 MacBook Pro. Hmmm... maybe time to upgrade.

Have you not upgraded it I’m a computer tech to I’m using a 2011 iMac with a solid-state drive and 16 gigs of RAM and I’ve turned off all the special effects an extra resources to make use of logic
I have a mid 2012 MacBook Pro running Catalina 10.15.7 and Safari 15.1, 16GB RAM. Reverb works fine.
 
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Which do you prefer with a pick?
The RicRiot with rounds and Foundy with flats are my faves with a pick. The RicRiot is ideal for a pick--it gets that punk/new wave grindy tonality.
I've often wondered if the best upgrade to a Patriot might be a two band pre like the EMG Stacked BTC or the Duncan Blackout Pre.
I have never used the EMG BTC or BTS with anything but EMGs (currently using a BTS with my EMGs on my Squier CV 70s J5.
That blackout pre is a favorite of mine. The only bass I currently have it on is my Squier Bass VI. It's fantastic, so much better than just a tone control! I also had one on my Ibanez--after the EMG/BTS, I experimented with the stock P pickup from my Squier Dirnt body and that pre. Sounded great. I then turned that bass into a virtual T45.